Canada-Psychedelic herb under legal radar

Canada cant schedule for the same reason as the US. Drugs are classified by similarities to other drugs. Salvia is unlike any drug out there.
 
Its been scheduled in Missouri where I live. I never could get any major effects from Salvia anyway... tired all the way up to 100x. Nothing worked, bongs, butane lighters, holding it in forever, rapid hits, nothing. All I ever got off it was a very drunk feeling for a few minutes. They had a huge media frenzy over it here though making Salvia look like the next ecstacy or something.
 
100X?
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Salvia won't ever be equal to ecstasy.... it doesn't last long enough and the high is more ANTI-SOCIAL than social...


Micro-grams - for salvinorin-A - a pure extract, YES. MICRO-GRAMS.

For Salvia - you need a LOT. A (number)X extract gets more salvinorin A into the leaves that you're smoking reducing the need for quantity.


You people having problems getting it to "work" I've never come across anyone that couldn't get SOMETHING out of salvia.
Again - if it's black, it's not worth smoking - and I'd point you to the link again - but someone's already saying I need to take them down - mods, if that's not allowed, let me know or remove them; as it is, salvia is still legal, so links on where to get it should not be banned IMO.

So... the shaman place.

If you've had trouble, get the 20X.

You don't need much - about the amount of a pea unless you're used to taking big bong rips - then go for a bit more - I wouldn't use more than 1/2 a grape size, and that's even a HUGE amount of Saliva 20X.

If you're packing it and passing it, the first person will feel it - anyone it's passed to will just get a nasty taste in their mouth.
You CANNOT PASS salvia.

You also need a butane lighter - one of them things with a blue flame - as a regular lighter doesn't burn hot enough to vaporize the salvinorin A.
You also need to keep the flame on the salvia the entire time you're inhaling - otherwise it cherry's down at a lower temperature and is ineffective.

One hit - hold it in.
With the stuff from the shops it takes a minute or two to start feeling anything.

This is odd to me.

The stuff from IamShaman kicks in before you blow out... often so you don't remember blowing out.

Some people don't "TRIP" on salvia, but no-one I've given it to has felt nothing.

You'll at least get the body high.

Supposedly there are people salvia doesn't work for...
I think they're stoners that don't smoke it properly - they smoke it like pot.

Water pipes/bongs/etc are suggested...

I don't suggest them - I recommend a small straight pipe with a bowl the size of a pea.
This keeps people from passing it - it's gone in one hit - so they are forced to do at least that part correctly.

Just some thoughts...
 
They are saying they a looking for ER visits to make a better case to make Salvia illegal, but it doesn’t last long enough. I could see someone freak out and call the ambulance and say” I’m dieing come save me” and when they got their 10 min later they would be like never mind I feel better.:(
 
So what is so dangerous about a drug that gets you high for 10 minutes? The good thing is that they're going to research it, so it's probably going to stay legal. Unfortunately everybody missed the memo with the whole "marijauna" deal.
 
BenditlikeClapton said:
So what is so dangerous about a drug that gets you high for 10 minutes? The good thing is that they're going to research it, so it's probably going to stay legal. Unfortunately everybody missed the memo with the whole "marijauna" deal.


If you're driving, someone laces a joint with Salvia, passes it to you.......


VERY VERY dangerous.

Of course...
The person doing that would have to have a death wish....
 
Kalash said:
If you're driving, someone laces a joint with Salvia, passes it to you.......


VERY VERY dangerous.

Of course...
The person doing that would have to have a death wish....


That's a good point, but I also think things like that would be really unlikely if the government would spend half the time educating (warnings, labels, maybe a PA every so often?) as they do flat out lying to the public.
 
You people having problems getting it to "work" I've never come across anyone that couldn't get SOMETHING out of salvia.

I have. Countless times with one specific individual (using any and all techniques/varieties I've known of) have yielded absolutely nothing. I've read somewhere that something like 10% of people cannot feel the effects.
 
StagnantReaction said:
I have. Countless times with one specific individual (using any and all techniques/varieties I've known of) have yielded absolutely nothing. I've read somewhere that something like 10% of people cannot feel the effects.


I've seen that statistic before...

But I'm betting it's more like 0.01% and the other 9.99% of that 10% don't do it right and report feeling nothing...
 
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