Canada - Other Side Of Heroin

[Tchort]

WinnipegSun.com
By Dr. W. Gifford-Jones
10/28/2011

The Globe and Mail was wrong in a recent column about the Insite heroin clinic in Vancouver, when it stated that heroin was an illegal drug.

Its editors have forgotten that when I wrote for the Globe I spent thousands of dollars placing ads in the newspaper during a campaign to legalize heroin. And that Jake Epp, the former health minister, announced on Dec. 4, 1984 that heroin would be legalized to treat terminal cancer pain.

But what happened after that?

Obituary columns report daily that loved ones “passed away peacefully.” But this is a downright lie. Most people still die in pain. More palliative care centres are desperately needed in this country.

In 1979 I wrote that English doctors had been using heroin for more than 80 years to ease the agony of terminal cancer pain. I questioned why heroin wasn’t available in Canada.

Thousands of letters of support encouraged me to start a campaign to legalize what has been called “God’s painkiller.” But it quickly became apparent that powerful organizations did not want to be told by a medical journalist they had been wrong for 80 years. . .

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2011/10/26/other-side-of-heroin

 

[S.J.B.]

That's really interesting... I wasn't aware that heroin had been green-lighted for medical use in Canada so recently.

 

[PhencyclidineDream]

Is this all of canada?

 

[23536]

Isn't IV hydromorphone superior to heroin?

 

[ro4eva]

http://webprod3.hc-sc.gc.ca/dpd-bdpp/start-debuter.do?lang=eng

I was able to find a discontinued (in 1997) heroin solution, which is interesting.

 

[IndustrialStrength]

Isn't IV hydromorphone superior to heroin?

Superior in what way? I've heard people say that the rush is superior but that's subjective.
Pain killing wise & with such a short duration of action I'm curious as to what way your referring to it's superiority.
Just to point out that subjectivity I personally find Hydromorphone to be way over-rated.
Of course I've only done it in doses that for my tolerance level are relatively low (24mg shots).
I've always been underwhelmed by the rush & the complete lack of legs.
As for pain relief I don't get much out of it either. Personally I'd much prefer the heroin.

So to re-iterate in what way are you referring to Hydromorphones superiority?

 

[Unbreakable]

The dispensing of heroin by SALOME in Vancouver, although controversial by North American standards, is currently in use in the Netherlands, Switzerland and Australia and has been well demonstrated as successful in a 1995 Liverpool test story. The dispensation of heroin and cocaine in Liverpool was a benchmark case study with startling results in aggravated crime reduction, reduction in property crime, reductions in high use neighbourhood violence, and addict deaths. Not only did the study see reductions in the negative results of addiction, the program also saw increased addict treatment, increased social integration of addicted persons and increased recovery rates. The Chapel Street Program, an anathema to the U.S. war on drugs and the newly chosen path of our current Prime Minister despite attitudes of Canadians in recent polls, shines a clear and brilliant light on a problem that drug criminalization has failed to resolve or abate.

http://informedvote.ca/2010/01/03/n...en-before-the-2010-vancouver-winter-olympics/

 

[ro4eva]

http://informedvote.ca/2010/01/03/n...en-before-the-2010-vancouver-winter-olympics/

Great post - thanks for the link.

 

[nAON]

For a start, stop calling it heroin. I know here in UK we have a sort of doublethink where heroin = bad, diamorphine = good. I assume that most people think they're completely different drugs.

 

[23536]

Superior in what way?

I was just asking. I have no experience with IV dilaudid and I've heard people say the experience beats heroin.

 

[IndustrialStrength]

I was just asking. I have no experience with IV dilaudid and I've heard people say the experience beats heroin.

Ah ok. Having had experience with both & various other IV opiates & with other users I'd say it's quite subjective.
It really varies individual to individual as to preference. Hydromorphone is known for having a powerful rush IV.
Compared to other opiates the Hydromorphone rush is considered by many to be superior.
Again though it's quite subjective. Personally I prefer Oxymorphone as I find it has a stronger rush & longer legs.
Though the doses I'm comparing aren't really equivalent in potency so it's not the best comparison.
Anyways I digress. I believe the common consensus would be that Hydromorphone IV has a better rush than heroin.
At equi-potent doses anyways. With the heroin having a longer duration of action than the Hydromorphone.
Hydromorphone being described as "all rush & no legs" so to speak. Hopefully that helps clarify a bit.

 

[ControlDenied]

Hydromorphone being described as "all rush & no legs" so to speak. Hopefully that helps clarify a bit.

pretty much. it's rush is about 2 or 3 times stronger than H imo. but im done with that shit :D

i also didnt know heroin was legalized recently. but it really doesnt make a difference as someone said previously, dilaudid and all the other opioids are around so what's so fucking special about heroin besides the retarded stigma/glamour [take your pick] ?