Canada Meth Smoker Sues Dealer after Overdosing

shit im sueing my dealer for getting me high.

and i too dont find it too hard to believe people getting killed for any drug related matters. after all, i think most people who handle drugs have come upon guns and other miscellaneous weapons. lethal weapons + mindfucking drugs = you figure.
 
When I first read this headline, I thought it was cool, a little quality control, but wait ... this lady OD'd on some perfectly good gear ... now what I'd sure like to see is someone sue their dealer for gettin' some beat drugs ...
 
Yep bitch needs to be layin in a fucken ditch...

And people totally kill people over way more trivial shit everyday.
 
Wait, so she's sueing because he sold her drugs that were 'too' good?

What the fuck is this world coming to?

Must have been a shitload of meth as well, I've taken 2 - 3 times my dose by accident, and while it didn't exactly lead to good times, it certainly didn't make me start coughing up blood or anything like that.
 
Just what we needed something to make meth dealers more paranoid as if being up for days wasnt enough.
 
I doubt they'd kill to prevent a legal judgement. Should the plaintiff disappear or turn up dead the defendant will no doubt be the primary suspect. Paying out a few thousand in damages is far better than facing 25 to life for premeditated murder. If anyone has to worry about being killed I'd say it's the defendant, considering he's being pressured to reveal his source who is as yet unknown to the courts.
 
I still think they would. For one thing it isn't a few thousand, it is 50,000, and for another thing it would be quite difficult to prove that it was the defendant who was responsible for the murder. In most killings related to organized crime, it is already assumed to be known what criminal organization is responsible, as well as who executives within that organization are. The difficult part is tying them to the killing in court. It is generally a very low level person who physically executed the murder, and the organization has resources to insulate themselves from prosecution, such as manufacturing alibis and whatnot. Secondly, the murder itself is not always obvious. The person often just disappears, and while it is assumed that they are dead, without a body or some strong evidence of a murder, charges are rarely even filed, and prosecution is next to impossible. The fact that a civil suit would allow law enforcement to sidestep the need for informants or pressuring underlings to testify against the higher ups presents a significant threat, and simply paying off people in settlements not only makes the dealers look weak, but also sets a dangerous precedent for them in which all any meth head who wants $50k has to do is file suit against them. But make a few people disappear and no one is going to do that, and they are as safe from prosecution as they were from being prosecuted for one of the killings in street level turf wars. I think it makes perfect sense.
 
Maybe things are different in the States but organized crime is different in Canada. I live in the prairies, which encompasses Saskatchewan. Instead of the Mafia we have motorcycle gangs. There are maybe a dozen members per chapter. Below that are poorly organized street gangs. In my region organized crime is routinely indicted for murder and other offenses. It's only on the east and west coast that things take on the Mafia vibe in terms of scale (due to ports and smuggling) but again it's the motorcycle gangs which run the show. These days Asian gangs are securing a foothold as well, most of the recent gang related murders have been attributed to asian gangs. There aren't many murders in these parts, I think my city had maybe a dozen or so in the last year, several being gang related, most it not all resulted in arrest, and I live in a provincial capital.

In Vancouver, Toronto, or Montreal something like that could fly under the radar. Anywhere else and there would be a public outcry.
 
I guess it depends on who what scale you are dealing with, but unless you are dealing with small isolated meth cooks and the top of the pyramid is just some toothless hillbilly in a wifebeater then the supply chain eventually goes back to a big fish. If you go far enough up the chain (which a suit like this could do, if it named the manufacturer as a defendant, which other tort litigation like this, such as against tobacco companies, has done) then you will eventually encounter someone who will do something other than run away and hide in their girlfriends apartment. Although, if we are talking about meth'd out bikers, I somehow suspect that they might not think of the legal ramifications as much and rather simply decide to stab someone in the neck with a broken bottle.

Also, to point to past murder rates as somehow prohibiting future murders is a fallacy I think, because we are dealing with a situation here that was not a factor in the development of previous murder rates.
 
i could sue my heroin dealer for selling me fentanyl laced heroin......but i would rather not lose the connection and i know he packs heat.....this is if i lived in canada though
 
whatever happened to that saying they taught you in grade school, "your responsible for your own actions"... seems like everyone these days can't help but blame someone
or something else for their mistakes 8)
 
The_Idler said:
Ima sue the local, cuz i tripped on the doorstep after drinking too much

that happened to someone in my city. this old guy had a bar where some drunk fell and hit his head. the guy died and the police charged the old bar owner because he didnt do anything. Totally ridiculous. Cause in canada with alcohol- people who host parties or have bars are *somewhat responsible* to make sure people get home safe and they arent in danger. but in the end the guy had the charges dropped. Just goes to show you the law is quick to find people to blame for things.

So i can see the logical extension to drugs. If people are getting high with you or you sell them drugs- you are somewhat responsible to make sure they are ok. That is reallly fucked up when you think about it. it just sounds like blaming someone cause the other person is doing something irresponsible. im just saying someone on dangerous drugs should have someone watch over them. But if drugs hurt a person i dont know how you can blame anyone except the person who took it.

so when someone ods on alcohol can you sue the maker? like this is fucked up. but i guess this shows drug related laws need to be handled with care and we dont have much experience with making them. but there are alot of issues with changes in consciousness, awareness, and psychology with drugs and the law.
 
The bar gets sued if someone overdoses on alcohol. Apparently it's their responsibility not to over serve patrons, which means not letting them get too drunk.

As far as selling drugs goes. Crystal meth is unsafe, so I suppose that the law's line of reasoning is that crystal meth sales should be treated as the sale of any other dangerous product. Subject to fines, lawsuits, etc..
 
I know the guy in the story, the whole case is full of lies and falsities and is a complete abortion of the justice system, it was a sad sad day when hardcore went away and this is even sadder still. I love how the media fails to mention so many things that would make Ms Bergen look like the drugged out whore she is, someone who stole the drugs and dug her own hole.

So glad to see truth prevails.
 
this shit is rediculous, i ono how they define an od, i guess if an od means getting "too high" then its certainly possible. but otherwise even with low tolerance, you need to be doing a shitload of fucking meth to cause life threatening side effects.
 
This isnt going to be a regular occurrence to those who think that its going to keep happening, she only one because of some problems with statements and pressure to lay another charge.

Did no one consider the possibility that she had planned this all along. Usually people dont just sue friends from kindergarten out of the blue. Sounds way too fishy to me.
 
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