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can you have a good time without drugs?

dkmonk said:
I find after being a drug user for so long and especially if you were addicted bad to something that when you quit its impossible to make friends, because all you know is drugs.

I dont know what to talk about all I know is drugs really, so I have nothing to say to anyone besides my girlfriend, so what do I do, well get on bluelight and read about drugs......

Its very lonely even though i have a girlfriend i feel empty inside and just stuck, makes me want to do heroin really bad just to feel that good feeling like how I think normal people feel, happy, confident, no pain in your chest from the overwhelming hoplessness. It was very nice relief when i did it and not to mention I had a bunch of "friends"....
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dude i feel exactly the same way. i moved to a new city, got clean, and cant meet anyone because all i know are drugs. at least i have my boyfriend but he found a job so most of the time its just me. i mean the crushing hopelessness has gotten a little better since i got clean, but i still feel like something is missing, that my antidepressants arnt working, i cant find a job for the life of me and ive been looking for 2 months, and last saturday i got an 80OC and i felt the best i have in weeks. i know you can have fun without drugs, but there are just so many things to bring you down when your sober.
 
Wow this thread is absolutely pathetic. how about you actually try to have fun without drugs instead of implanting in your brain that it's impossible?
 
just a general question- do any of y'all do anything outside like go to the beach or fly a kite or go to a lake/river or hike/walk or have a snowball fight in winter?? for lack of a better word, play. just play.

sitting around in four walls makes me crazy as hell. doing outside stuff is an essential part of managing the depression i've had most of my life.

about 12 years ago i was really stuck down a rabbit hole. a friend showed up and said "c'mon let's drive to the beach." it took some convincing but i went. it was a really windy day and on the drive over we saw a kid flying a kite. we detoured to wally world and got a kite. launched it at the beach and the wind eventually snapped the line but that was the most fun, totally clean time i had in so many years i couldn't remember.

sometimes you just gotta grab yourself by the ass and pick it on up and move. getting outside regularly improved and stabilized my moods a whole lot more than any meds ever did.
try it. what have you got to lose except for a little time?
-izzy
 
I may be in the minority, but i find sex better without drugs, since taking less drugs my sex life has improved and this is obviously good

so yeah i can have fun without drugs, but once i orgasm, i wish i had some drugs
 
DexysMidnightRuner said:
dude i feel exactly the same way. i moved to a new city, got clean, and cant meet anyone because all i know are drugs. at least i have my boyfriend but he found a job so most of the time its just me. i mean the crushing hopelessness has gotten a little better since i got clean, but i still feel like something is missing, that my antidepressants arnt working, i cant find a job for the life of me and ive been looking for 2 months, and last saturday i got an 80OC and i felt the best i have in weeks. i know you can have fun without drugs, but there are just so many things to bring you down when your sober.
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I am glad you can relate. Makes me that much happier that one day I will find a female who has the same viewpoints and feelings as I do.
 
Well even though nowadays all I do is drink, I know I gotta slow down. Days ago me and the girlfriend got together in an alcohol-induced event of ultimate magnitude i.e. sex, and she says I said the most beautiful things I've ever said to her. Sad thing is I dont remember what I said....It would be all good if it was just some random girl but its a shame the real things I can only say when Im under the influence I cant ever recite sober. Sad Face... Whats the point of making a memory if you cant remember it.
 
Are you really having fun when under the influence, or are you more so self medicating so you don't feel shitty? Sort of like, are drugs enjoyable, in and of themselves, or are they enjoyable because they numb your pain and suffering experience simply because you are alive?

(we all deal with it differently, but after all, there is no way to avoid suffering in life, although I would make the argument that it is possible to suffer without being in pain - i.e. the experience of suffering is neither good nor bad, but pain is a negative expression we project on our experience of suffering)

To answer the OP's question: two weeks ago I would have said fuck no I can't enjoy life without drug, but today I would say hell yea, I've never been happier than I have been since I got sober.
 
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I understand and appreciate how you feel, your feelings matter and are not to be ignored.

Maybe take sometime look honestly were your at and what you turned away from, the horror. You have something very special today your clean! This is something you must cherish, hold onto in your heart, and whenever you can help someone else.
Please consider removing any thought that things can be a little better with a little something this is a lie and it will never happen it leads to longer prison terms, insanity or death.
Life as a dope fiend just does not get better.
You have a chance today to be something, you have what it takes.
I can well remember 32 years ago the horror of narcotics, as I can remember how grateful I was to have been given another chance to turn away from it, when so many others seemingly could not.
You will have fun.
 
I have had a difficult time finding something I enjoy doing, still looking for something to become passionate about, but this feeling, beats the fuck out of all of that miserable shit that went along with my compulsive drug use.
 
My girl, good music, good food and my favorite tv shows still bring me joy. I'm about 3 months clean after a couple years of some heavy opiate usage. Depression, lethargy, malaise and brain fog haven't diminished what so ever :/ But thinking back on when I was actually in withdrawal (chills, GI problems, excruciating pain in my stomach, loss of apetite) I truly feel blessed, but more importantly, alive.

Some of my all-time-life-saving-feel-good shows :> ....
1. It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia
2. The League
3. 30 Rock
4. The Big Bang Theory
5. Modern Family
 
oliphill said:
In response to original question:

YES!

With a program of recovery I am having a hell of a lot of fun! :)
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=D well said. even with the insomnia, it rocks. I'd take insomnia (got a bit too much energy, but at least I'm getting a lot of good work done given I seem to be able to only sleep about an hour a night; might sound sorta shitty, but it's like night and day compared to when I was actively using) over my dope addiction any day!
 
i couldnt have summarized it any better. i feel exactly the same way. i dont wanna do anything or go anywhere inless i'm high on something. when i'm high i can go do things. well depending on what i've taken. lol.
 
The thing is I can, and I know I can... In fact I've had much better times OFF opiates, as I know from a decent clean period. For a start my sex life is always a lot better without opiates/kratom. I used to think I couldn't have a good time without getting drunk as a skunk, but they never really were good times.

The last time I quit codeine and kratom (for all of 5 days) I went out to a rock gig on day 5 and had the time of my life, my body kicked in with its own pleasure chemicals, was a fantastic rush. Then I relapsed because I came down from that a little the next day and I wanted to recapture the buzz.

I think for me the problem is wanting the good times to roll on and on, and the addict part of me feeds on that. I guess for me whatever drugs it's ever been have been about not wanting the good times to end - and during the flat times, troughs etc, that's when they rush in to fill the gap.

And of course when I have habit, it feels like nothing will be enjoyable without the DOC in my system, because who wants to go through withdrawals when you're planning on a good time?!
 
Drugs have been a part of my life for a while now, and I think they might always be a part of my life. But thats what they are, a part. Being able to enjoy some things in life sober is important because its almost immpossible to stay high for life and never have any issues. I love getting high but the same things I like doing when I'm high I do sober. A few years ago drugs were my only source of happiness and i feel alot better day to day knowing I don't need drugs to be happy.
 
I never did drugs to have a good time. The best times in my life were when I didnt use drugs. I use drugs like hydrocodone which is prescribed for my back pain. Years ago I would drink alcohol to forget about my problems or if I was depressed about something. Depression years ago is the only reason why I tried coke & other drugs. I never did drugs to have a good time except maybe for weed, when I was hanging out with my gf & watching a movie.
 
So here’s my report: I’ve been clean for 8 months. i only ever did drugs to have a better time. Now, I could count the times that I’ve gone out with friends who binge in one hand. I’m mostly solo for my own good or im sure ill just relapse. I have more things to talk about than drugs, but when I’m sober it’s like people don’t really give a shit about them. It’s just not the same. I don’t really think it will get better, so I’m just going to start my own company and stop wasting my life feeling sorry for myself.
 
It's totally possible, even after years of using. It just takes time for you to realize it after your brain has grown accustomed to depending on substances for good feelings. For one thing, many drugs fuck with your seratonin (sp?) production by making it surge while you're high and fall while you're not. This naturally makes you feel like crap when you're sober. Thankfully this evens out after some time sober. It took me SIX months before I started feeling "normal" again and just as long before I started finding happiness in life without drugs.

I always remind people that IT JUST TAKES TIME. Your brain has to do a lot of readjusting and during that period it's totally normal to feel absolutely hopeless. The most important thing to do is keep pushing through until you reach that point where you're feeling good. It will come, don't worry.

Now, if you're someone who doesn't use every day of every week and feel like this, it probably has a lot to do with your brain's chemicals nonetheless. Drugs really fuck with your body whether you realize it or not. It's a matter of realizing this and accepting it as a consequence, at least IMO it is. Of course people can use and still maintain a level of mental health akin to any sober person but it can become difficult after extended use. It's a fine line to walk and a risk you take when you engage in drug use =/
 
A great, intelligent conversation takes you so much further than any drug high. Human interaction is highly underrated, especially now in a world of constant digital communication.

In my opinion, the reason you don't find happiness in an addiction is because you can't find freedom in anything. When you're not on drugs, the reason you remember everything so well and happy is because you had the freedom to do what you pleased, without any foundation of filth and previous engagements (of acquiring said substance)

The only thing on your mind is what you want to do next. The answer? Whatever you want.
 
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