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Bilbs

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So when I go to a rave I stay on through the early hours of the morning cause I have to get public transport home, most people have left by this point. This is my least favorite part of a rave cause there are bad vibes floating around all over the place. I can do one of two things, find a fire to settle down by as people with properly (or close enough to) functioning brains socialize around me, or continue to dance.

The issue with dancing is that it's not really dancing by this point, its a bunch of sketchy looking lost souls sharing waves of paranoia as they stand in front of the speakers, e-tards and kids who don't know when to stop. I've found myself, many of times, looking down at what my body is doing and realizing i'm out of time with the music, I have no energy and no one around me is dancing which is the point where I give up. I walk around, go chill by the fire and realise I've still got an hour to kill, back to the sketchy dance floor? Or sit here in silence, having 5 word conversations whilst minutes pass like hours.

I tend to experience mild paranoia after the good effects of mdma have worn off, i'm guessing its spouted from weed and my mdma honeymoon. So talking to new people isn't an option at this point, and all my friends are coming down harder than me cause they don't listen to the dose advice I give them.


What do you/would you do in this situation?
 
Don't know what to say man, even when coming down the afterglow is enough to keep me happy and dancing... I've noticed weed for me turns ugly especially when coming down from E, it kind of makes me paranoid and I get waay too trippy. If you're smoking on the comedown try to abstain next time :)
 
I've never experieced any bad come down honestly, I've really only rolled at concerts/raves as well... I dance until the drugs wear off, and continue to dance until I feel like going home, never felt anything too negative or brain melting (in a bad use of the phrase), I usually just a feel a creeping feeling of exhaustion until i decide to call it a night. All your friends can really do is wait it out.. and if their feeling shitty.. smoking weed should probably be held off till they feel better, I'd imagine that if your friends or yourself have rolled to consistently the comedown would be worse, thats why it's very important to space out your rolls to ensure the least side effects. Personally i used to just go back to being myself after rolling, talk the night over with my buddies, or just new people I've met, it may seem hard to socialize but once you start doing it, even on the come down, you'll probably notice things flowing out more naturally than you thought just don't think about the negatives. No worries though, people react differently to everything, if you need a day to sleep off a good roll, take it, just remember to practice moderation
 
I usually get some ket up my nose as i start coming down, so its not too much of a blow then im nice and wonky and can dance all the rave nearly lol *shuffle Wonk* *shuffle wonk wonk*
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Yeah Ket is what I would love to do after but I haven't been able to find any in a while, especially before i go to a rave, the universe has it in for me. K is probably the way, even after a 2 month break if i'm anywhere but home a comedown gets trippy.
 
I keep dancing all night till im tired and want to go home.. I love dancing during the comedown/afterglow. Once its completely stopped working ill keep dancing a little bit, but i usually feel to tired and just wanna hang out..

Spacing and not dosing all night really helps keep it going.. Friends who redose often usually want to leave and feel crappy after the last dose wears off.
Ive never tried Ketamine. Whats it like? I might try to find a source.
I like MDMA cause im still me and dont feel like im under the influence of a drug. How does Ket influence you? Can you still have a normal conversation and dance like you normally would?
 
I'm like the OP: Once I come down, I'm just too drained to dance. Of course, this is often because I don't come down until like 4 AM, and now that I'm old I just don't have much energy at that hour. And I'd hate to just prolong this "blah" stage by downing more Red Bull, although maybe that's really the solution.

Which relates to my big beef with MDMA: Why the hell doesn't it last as long as, say, acid, dammit? I space my experiences out by a few months at least (and once by two years), take a moderate first dose and a small second dose, and I'm still exhausted within about 3-4 hours of taking it. Partly, it's just disappointment that I'm no longer in the euphoria stage of the experience. But in the end, you get an awesome 2-3 hours followed by a long, long tail of being spacey and fucked up but drained as hell. Maybe it's just my metabolism, but jeez.
 
SETTING. Sounds like you need to find a new way to play the night. I know exactly the feeling of that sketchy dance floor, it is suuuper yucky.....Unless you find a new kind of scene to hang with. I found a scene/community of people who rise up for the creepy hours. they know that feeling all too well and they are older and smarter enough to know how to beat it with humor and good alcohol :) You gotta find some funnier friends and a cleaner scene where people arent so sketch at late nite hours! If you get around cooler peeps you will naturally want to dance more I bet!
 
I have the same problem (having to use public transportations for raves) usually me and friends in the same situation will just go get some food and play a game of cards at around 4 am when everything is getting a but low. I also usually pop a lorazapom at this point to. It makes me go from a sad comedown to no feeling mood.
 
Hell yes, haha this is one of the best parts of the night. Dance floor is empty cuz most of the party people have gone. Lots of room to flail around and just goof off with friends that im with.
I never really feel a 'comedown' on the night of ingesting. I always have a nice afterglow, although it gets a bit lonely if i have to go home alone. Smoking weed helps me fall asleep.
 
Bilbs said:
So when I go to a rave I stay on through the early hours of the morning cause I have to get public transport home, most people have left by this point. This is my least favorite part of a rave cause there are bad vibes floating around all over the place. I can do one of two things, find a fire to settle down by as people with properly (or close enough to) functioning brains socialize around me, or continue to dance.

The issue with dancing is that it's not really dancing by this point, its a bunch of sketchy looking lost souls sharing waves of paranoia as they stand in front of the speakers, e-tards and kids who don't know when to stop. I've found myself, many of times, looking down at what my body is doing and realizing i'm out of time with the music, I have no energy and no one around me is dancing which is the point where I give up. I walk around, go chill by the fire and realise I've still got an hour to kill, back to the sketchy dance floor? Or sit here in silence, having 5 word conversations whilst minutes pass like hours.

I tend to experience mild paranoia after the good effects of mdma have worn off, i'm guessing its spouted from weed and my mdma honeymoon. So talking to new people isn't an option at this point, and all my friends are coming down harder than me cause they don't listen to the dose advice I give them.


What do you/would you do in this situation?
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Yep I recognise all of that. It's like the after-parties I used to go to. They start at like 6am after the club shuts and carry on until noon. People there look awful in the main - unable to meet your eye, dog-tired, odd dancing etc. It's not pretty and personally i don't find it fun. I was one of those kids who didn't know when to stop and consequently got the paranoia and anxiety. Public transport was pretty grim without sunglasses to hide my furtive eyes!

The simple answer is to stop earlier and go home when YOU want to and get some sleep.

You have to factor in "The Big Drugs Conspiracy" as I call it: there are a lot of regular pill-heads, coke-heads, smokers and the like who almost never recount the bad times or bad feelings they have. To listen to them you'd think it was all wonderful with no downside. You can go out on a big night and see one of them looking anxious for a couple of hours yet the story for the night is "yeah we had a mental time, it's was great" and no more than that. So it's easy to think it's just you that feels sketchy so you don't talk about it either, or if you do you play it down and so the circle continues. It can lead you into staying out way later than you should, chasing a lost high, taking more than you should and going onto places you shouldn't - weird people's flats, after parties, some squat rave full of crusties etc.

The trick for me is to limit the dose to 1 solid hit with possibly a 1/2 dose a few hours later if the first was weak and then as soon as I feel I've come down I start rounding up the folk who wanna go home and if they are all staying I call for the taxi just for myself. I time my hit so I know I'll be down at a reasonable hour (e.g. 4am not 9am!) and accept the fact that, for me, a night on the E is a short lived thing - 4 hours tops. So I have a good chat and couple of beers before I drop to make sure I'm comfortable with the people and the place before dropping, drop, rave, come down, go home, neck a valium or something and get 8 hours solid kip. End of rave and the next day I feel OK.
 
As much as i love doing mdma at a rave,
I blame raves for mdma being abused.

People think they have to stay up all night on mdma for like 10 hours some raves, they dont its stupid.

Just arrive late, do ketamine , or just socialise a bit before dancing away.
You get at least 3 hours off one dose of mdma. plenty of fun
 
Also OP, if you are aware of these feelings and are addressing them, I bet you start making new friends naturally, ones who you will enjoy being with after hours who you can go home with and continue the comedown away from the clubs but keep the night going a bit if thats what you like. Better energy around you will help with the paranoid feeling. I don't know what I would do without my few late late nite buddies who I felt comfortable around.

I find this subject very interesting and I like this thread. The Creepy Hours!! When everyone starts feeling the negative effects from the drug....it's a crazy time and party professionals know how to handle it with care.
 
I never really get this, but then again I've just always been a part of the outdoor music festival scene.

Once my drugs have worn off, I head back to the ol' campsite and have a whole lot of cones until sleep is possible. In fact I've found at the outdoor festivals, sunrise is when you'll find all the hardcore partiers doing their thing and have always had a good time at this hour.
I have never experienced paranoia as a result of MDMA use.
 
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