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Can you control your drug use?

For me it depends on the drug. There are drugs I can have lying around for a long time (think psychedelics & uppers mainly) without touching them. With both weed and opiates it's nearly impossible to limit myself or even take breaks when they're around, but it has gotten alot better over time. Same thing used to apply to benzos but I amazed myself while I was tapering and I'm pretty much able to leave them alone now.

If I have ketamine, it's gone asap. Just can't help myself when it's around.
 
I think there's a difference btwn a recreational user trying to use a few times/week or less, and an addict trying to limit their daily intake.

IME/O its damn near impossible to limit use when you have more than you need of an opiate regardless of whether ur an addict or not. But, I think that addicts get slightly better at controlling use over time, whereas the recreational user slips closer and closer to addiction over time. (Meaning that the 20th time an addict has more than a weeks worth of dope he's better at limiting than he was the 1st time, but the 20th time a recreational user has more than they need for a few days they are less able to control themselves than they were the 1st time they were in that situation)
 
walterdini said:
I think there's a difference btwn a recreational user trying to use a few times/week or less, and an addict trying to limit their daily intake.

IME/O its damn near impossible to limit use when you have more than you need of an opiate regardless of whether ur an addict or not. But, I think that addicts get slightly better at controlling use over time, whereas the recreational user slips closer and closer to addiction over time. (Meaning that the 20th time an addict has more than a weeks worth of dope he's better at limiting than he was the 1st time, but the 20th time a recreational user has more than they need for a few days they are less able to control themselves than they were the 1st time they were in that situation)
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This is very intriguing.

I will not always have a connect for the oxy, so part of me wants to get the quantity while I can, and just trust that I can keep them for weekends/events etc... The other part has a feeling that after I get home from a long work day, they will be calling my damn name lol..

I honestly don't think i'd ever let my use get to the point of big time w/d, or where it controlled my life. I have always been taught that so long as whatever substance you are using, does not affect your daily duties and priorities, it should be fine. I know opiates/oxy can be a different story, but I also know that me being very self-conscience of my use should help as well..

At what point do you guys start experiencing some nasty wd? The worst I have felt is a little sluggish for a day or two, then I am golden. Again, I have never taken over 50mg of oxy over a say... 8 or so hour period, and never more than 20mg at one time.
 
For me i start to withdraw after 3-4 days in a row. That's when i was a recreational user though. The withdrawals get worse and worse each time. Once you start noticing that you are aching, having trouble sleeping and having diarrhea you are know you are withdrawing. That restless feeling in the legs is the first one that gets me and is also the worst symptom of all, i can't stand it.

its not so much the dose but the frequency. anymore than once a week and you will eventually get yourself in trouble. Twice a week if you have great self control.
 
RobotRipping said:
For me i start to withdraw after 3-4 days in a row. That's when i was a recreational user though. The withdrawals get worse and worse each time. Once you start noticing that you are aching, having trouble sleeping and having diarrhea you are know you are withdrawing. That restless feeling in the legs is the first one that gets me and is also the worst symptom of all, i can't stand it.

its not so much the dose but the frequency. anymore than once a week and you will eventually get yourself in trouble. Twice a week if you have great self control.
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Wow that fast? Off of how much oxy? How long does your wd normally last?
 
I usually go on binges mainly because of money and fear of dependency. Drugs like crack/coke or heroin and roxys ill get like a bundle or whatever and have fun for a weekend and not mess around with them for a good coupla weeks. If i got it ill do it but after that i aint gonna go out and get more because honestly im better than that. Psychological addiction is a bitch.
 
In general I'd say no, but it depends on the drug. Opiates I cannot control my use, in that, if I have the money to continually use opiates, all the while knowing that doing so will leave me with a physicall Dependance, I will do so anyway. However, with opiates I am able to structure my addiction, meaning I can moderate when I get high, and when I get straight. When I was only using heroin, I usually had a schedule that was something like; a 3 bag shot in the morning (to get high), a 1 bag shot around lunch time, a 2 bag shot at 5-6 pm, and then a 3 bag shot before bed (often accompanied with some cocaine). I always made sure I had at least one shot in the morning but offten bought a little over a bundle each day as I savored that morning fix.

With cocaine I have absolutely no self control. I'm like a lab rat, and just do shot after shot until it is gone (which is why I have such a fear of this drug now.) I had similar experiencing with MDPV and 4-MCC. With Dextroamphetamine I actually do have control over my use, and I believe this is mostly due to the fact that I don't use this drug intravenously as there is no point. Shooting it dirties the high, and shortens the duration. Instead I use it rectally so I get great absorption and duration, but there isn't as much of a fiendish nature. In fact, I don't even feel "euphoric" so much, as I just feel "normal" but happy and motivated.

With benzo's I have little control over as well if I have access to large quantities of them, but I don't use them to get "fucked up" like some people do. I litterally take them for my anxiety, and always have started off at the lowest dosage possible to achieve the desired anxiolytic effect. The problem of course is that they work fucking fantastically but tolerance starts to develop fast, so while I may only need .25 mg of alprazolam initially to achieve a calm state of mind, I'll be taking 2 mg at a time a month later.

One strange thing Ive noticed about myself when it comes to my impulse control over using benzo's and opiates, is that I can offten "treat" myself (I hate using that phrase) to shooting heroin one day, and if I only buy enough for one shot, I can easily not pick up again for quite a while. But if I get enough heroin that I can get high two days in a row, well that's when I run into trouble.
 
So far.

I've been doing opiates (monthly) and benzos (weekly) for about 10 months and kratom the last 2. The only drug I don't have strict self control with is weed.
 
When I'm feeling like shit or tied or bored I always feel like I HAVE to do something just for something to do, but I'm always able to question myself "Should I, do I really need to? Haven't I got better stuff to be doing, and isn't that bad for you? Can't this kind of thing lead on to full blown addiction or serious health problems?" and by the time I've fully asked myself, it's killed the buzz of 'oo yay gonna get hiiiiiighh' and I find better things to do like revision or whatever.

I have excessive money at the moment and I actually can't wait to go to uni or buy a house or something just because it'll be harder to get drugs and so I won't have a pretty large stash of drugs, most of which I've never even used, like I do now...
Another major problem I have at the moment is that I have so much free time, being part-time working and on holiday from college. I get so bored come 5pm.

So yes I do have control but I do have those moments.
 
highhooked said:
Haha exactly the same with thust.Im lucky i havnt had much money to throw around since i really started getting into things. But i just got a new job thats going to be bringing in some nice cashflow so we will see how that goes. :\
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Ahhhhahahaha. This is great looking at shit from the past. Guess what? I did get that job, i have a good amount of cash...and im addicted to heroin! Fuck.
 
nope i never stop except when im sleeping. i wake up i use before i have my first smoke then every 2 hours throughout the day till i pass out at like 9am. the problem is i have a never ending supply due to an abundance of money and a very bad addiction and dependance. i have to use to function normal without it im doomed.... and yes i am talking to people about checking into detox and rehab... i wont go broke but pretty soon if i keep this up it will prob kill me so its gotta end asap
 
I consider myself a very disciplined user. I'll ration my heroin appropriately and I actually sleep easy knowing there's a bag a few feet away instead of it playing on my mind, because I feel safe if it's there. That's another few hours I'm alright for.
 
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