can phychedelics help anger issues?

[Brainfucked]

my mother is 45 years old and her anger is out of control some days for no apparent reason. she always says shes tired from work but I really think she uses that as an excuse. it always gets taken out on me. the only drugs she does is citalopram, tabacco and a bit of weed. she doesn't smoke weed that much its not an everyday thing its too expensive for her. could her anger be caused by tabacco or the citalopram? shes planning on getting off them soon. what could be the cause? ive talked to her about it a lot and she just says theres nothing wrong.
I would really appreciate any replies

 

[Doldrugs]

If the weed isn't helping I don't know what to tell you. Psychedelics are extremely complex and going into a trip in a bad mood will only worsen things. I wouldn't recommend it. If she won't admit she has a problem there's nothing you can do anyway. How old are you?

 

[sghouston5]

If she took about 120mg of some good clean molly, it would change her life. She would realize how the anger effects others.

Alternatively, if she wanted to go the medical route, she could try different SSRIs, or even trycyclics. If her anger is violent and intermittent and she has frequent mood swings she may be bipolar and require lithium to stabilize her mood. Longer acting benzodiazepines like valium or ativan may be helpful to her, but only if she is willing to take them. Everyone is different so who knows, but that's generally medically all they are going to do.

 

[Doldrugs]

I get that you love Molly, so I hate to ruin this for you, but there's plenty of assholes who take MDMA. It doesn't turn everyone into the Buddha.

 

[sghouston5]

Right on. Which is why I went on to explain a course of possible medical treatment. I am not 100 percent positive either but I do believe I typed "Everyone is different so who knows" suggesting that either of those options may not be viable for her.

So, nothing was ruined for me? No need to apologize?

 

[TheLostBoys]

LSD & other psychedelics have the capacity to sort of rewire/mold your brain, turning you into a better person if you will.


Studies have been done on LSD curing drug addicts & alcoholics. A full blown alcoholic quitting cold turkey after drinking every day for the past 30 years......pretty remarkable.

What may happen during a trip is you finally understand who you are & your purpose on the earth (doesn't happen to everyone) & you figure out that being mean to others is a waste of time & energy.

A person uses more energy into being mean & negative than being a positive & happy person.

We only get one shot on this earth, make sure its a positive experience.....be happy & helpful towards others.

Of course life can be hard at times, just don't make it harder by being mean.

 

[sghouston5]

LSD & other psychedelics have the capacity to sort of rewire/mold your brain, turning you into a better person if you will.


Studies have been done on LSD curing drug addicts & alcoholics. A full blown alcoholic quitting cold turkey after drinking every day for the past 30 years......pretty remarkable.

What may happen during a trip is you finally understand who you are & your purpose on the earth (doesn't happen to everyone) & you figure out that being mean to others is a waste of time & energy.

A person uses more energy into being mean & negative than being a positive & happy person.

We only get one shot on this earth, make sure its a positive experience.....be happy & helpful towards others.

Of course life can be hard at times, just don't make it harder by being mean.

This is kind of what I meant to explain with the whole "try ecstasy" thing lol except you explained it a bit better than me

 

[herbavore]

The first thing you have to do is to let her know that while she may see no problem in her behavior--it is a problem for those around her (I'm assuming it isn't just with you). You can be assertive and gentle (not attacking) while letting her know that you care about your relationship. Mood swings are pretty common for pre-menopausal woman and menopausal women so wherever she finds herself on that continuum is probably playing a part. Still, she can't really blame obnoxious behavior on her feelings--they are two different things. Everyone is entitled to feel irritable, angry, moody, sad, etc but taking out your feelings on those around you is not healthy for anyone. Hope she, and you, get some help. Sounds miserable.

 

[T. Calderone]

I get that you love Molly, so I hate to ruin this for you, but there's plenty of assholes who take MDMA. It doesn't turn everyone into the Buddha.

You could have said this in a more respectful way. I do agree if taking psychedelics when you're already in a foul mood, will make things worse.

sjhouston, you make a good point about taking SSRI's, they can mess you up if you're bipolar. I was diagnosed bipolar and my doctor prescribed citalopram, abilify ( a mood stabilizer), benztropine to help the side effects and mirtazpine. It's really a crapshoot finding the right meds to help with depression and other mental health conditions.

OP, does your mom have "good days" or are they mostly bad? Could be the job stressing her out or a host of other things, like herbavore said, may be hormonal. Can you speak to her about her anger? I never realized how much I shout at people because that's how my family communicated. Then when my son got out of rehab, he had to remind me several times that I was yelling and for me to calm down. She shouldn't just stop taking her meds, she should speak with her doctor and see if there are other meds she could try.

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

I think we are getting a little ahead of ourselves. Perhaps you could explain to us what kind of "anger issues" it is that you speak of? We don't know what it is she is doing, we only know that you say she is doing it. It is unwise to reccomend any sort of medicine before knowing what kind of behaviour it is to begin with

 

[Brainfucked]

its just a really short temper she seems to be always shouting at me. And she doesn't even need SSRI,s. She stopped smoking for 2 years and it made her completely depressed it was really fucking bad. it was extreme depression for 2 full years and it all started as soon as she stopped smoking. just because she couldn't smoke. so she went to the doctor and he prescribed her them and she started smoking again. shes going to the doctors next week to start tapering off her citalopram. and shes gonna stop smoking when shes done with them and hopefully weed can stop her cravings.

 

[TheLostBoys]

its just a really short temper she seems to be always shouting at me. And she doesn't even need SSRI,s. She stopped smoking for 2 years and it made her completely depressed it was really fucking bad. it was extreme depression for 2 full years and it all started as soon as she stopped smoking. just because she couldn't smoke. so she went to the doctor and he prescribed her them and she started smoking again. shes going to the doctors next week to start tapering off her citalopram. and shes gonna stop smoking when shes done with them and hopefully weed can stop her cravings.

There's an agenda to have all doctors hand out antidepressants for anything from anxiety to depression.......if you feel confused & something isn't going right at work, here cones a prescription of antidepressants.......the medical field is becoming a complete joke.

My cousin is an emergency doctor & I know several other nurses & they all say that hospitals & doctors seem to not care about patients anymore like they use to 20 years ago & I'm talking about several big hospitals.

Seems like we all need to learn to take care of ourselves.

 

[Doldrugs]

Here comes conspiracy man to spread the gospel of "no more antidepressants." You know that some antidepressants treat anxiety, right? What "agenda" are you talking about?

 

[TheLostBoys]

Here comes conspiracy man to spread the gospel of "no more antidepressants." You know that some antidepressants treat anxiety, right? What "agenda" are you talking about?

Hey man, pop antidepressants like candy if you want, no one is stopping you. Let us know how your mind is in 10 years.......my facts come from reality & what's going on in the real world, not some fantasy world brought on by antidepressants.

They're definitely some people that are psychotic & need certain antidepressants & have no other avenue to go thru.

Fact remains that the public is being given these mind altering antidepressants that make people suicidal, etc.......I thought they were supposed to do the opposite & make you happy & content with life, but reality is antidepressants are one of the biggest lies perpetrated towards the public.

You call me a conspiracy theorist because you have no basis to defend against my statements & you feel the conspiracy words are enough, but your the fool for labeling.

Take a poll on this site & ask everyone that's taken antidepressants if its helped them for the better....

 

[ChipTrippyFox]

On the contrary I had to literally beg my doctor to give me somthing for my anxiety and depression..

What would YOU have them do? What alternative medical treatments are there.

That being said; none of the meds I've tried have helped. I think marijuana would help me alot but my mate doesn't approve...

 

[TheLostBoys]

On the contrary I had to literally beg my doctor to give me somthing for my anxiety and depression..

What would YOU have them do? What alternative medical treatments are there.

That being said; none of the meds I've tried have helped. I think marijuana would help me alot but my mate doesn't approve...

Its been well proven Tramadol works great for depression.......

You're certainly not gonna get the treatment you deserve from any doctor anywhere for depression that is of human compassion.......something that will work towards the positive.

I tell people to figure it out for themselves what's the best thing for their depression.......if its taking antidepressants, you & only you can say yes or no to ingesting them.

I on the other hand won't turn into their guniea pig.

 

[sghouston5]

Its been well proven Tramadol works great for depression.......

You're certainly not gonna get the treatment you deserve from any doctor anywhere for depression that is of human compassion.......something that will work towards the positive.

I tell people to figure it out for themselves what's the best thing for their depression.......if its taking antidepressants, you & only you can say yes or no to ingesting them.

I on the other hand won't turn into their guniea pig.

I totally agree. I usually just suggest that people seek medical attention for their anger/depression/anxiety issues, but I am definitely NOT "pro-antidepressant". That shit ruins lives in the long term man. Scientists don't even know the exact mechanism of action that SSRI/NRI's have on your brain? They sure do prescribe them in a heartbeat though. I have had several doctors who don't even care or try to figure out "whats wrong with me". They just nod their heads, do a few checks and look up symptoms on their little laptops and just say "Take this lexapro/xanax combo and in about 6 weeks you'll feel better, come see me after you start feeling better"

No one needs drugs like that to stabilize your life man. It really works for some people but there truly are alternative outs there if you search hard enough that meet the needs for your depression. The Pharm companies just push out what works for most people. They have no clue what they are genuinely doing I think, they just synthesize a bunch of shit and if it works on 7 out of 10 people in clinical trials they push it out the door and get it FDA approved. We are in this shitty age where medical science is all bullshit...it's hit or miss. There is no real "cure" for anything. We haven't even found a cure for the common cold, or at least a way to prevent it. Medicine has SIDE EFFECTS lol instead of just directly fixing the problem once. In 200 years, someone is going to be reading what I am typing right now and laugh, saying to his/herself "Damn, they had medication with side effects? They couldn't even cure the common cold? WHAT PRIMITIVE APES!" then laugh histerically.

Just think before you run to those nasty serotonergic scripts, especially tramadol. TONS of horror stories even here on Bluelight with those. I have used/abused drugs many times over and I can tell you that in the long run (at lesat all the pharmaceutical ones) have caused NOTHING but problems for me. psychedelics helped a great deal with personal development, but battling benzo addiction, opiod addiction, weening off anti-depressants, taking amphetamines for my "ADHD disease" lol. It's all hocus pocus nonsense I think....I wish it wasn't. Drugs can be fun, but they can really mess up your life, even taking them as prescribed.

 

[downerhead]

To the OP: Quitting or attempting to quit cigarettes can make people edgy and irritable,that's well known.The citalopram(celexa)can also really fuck your brain up,any anti-depressant/anti-psychotic can and often people don't realize it's the medication doing it.Hope this provides some insight to your dillema.As far as the psychedelics thing,just remember that dosing someone without their knowledge and permission is pretty fucked up.I'm not suggesting that you were thinking of doing that,just thought it was worth mentioning.