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Benzos Can One Smoke/Chase Etizolam?

This is really interesting. I never knew that you could SL your benzo. I always chew mine. I never knew you could vaporize them and inhale them. It sounds like if you do inhale them that they do not last as long, therefore you are diluting your product.
 
don't try injecting either. it's not soluble. i gave myself a lump over a month ago from alcohol and etiz inspired stupidity.
 
I'm not sure why you would anyways? Isn't the point of using more intense ROA's to get a rush? Benzos are for relaxing, not for getting speedy off of
 
I am always looking for ways to make my meds last longer. I never would want to get speedy just relaxed and for a longer period of time.
 
jesus christ.

benzos arent even recreational drugs.

there for comeing down off stims or mixin with a few beers or if you have anxiety. thats about it.

people just like snorting/smoking/banging things even if its for less BA or duration. Its just part of there "get high" experience. Just swallowing a pill isnt rewarding. They much rather chop some lines or fix a shot.

Which is the exact reason people snort roxis or even xannies. (Yes Ive seen both happan as im sure most of you have to )
 
^ if you don't have a scale their is no excuse for ingesting an unknown quantity of a psychoactive. IMO you NEED scales to be safe. Don't fool yourself, even liquid measurement can be hit or miss. A high quality scale will never lie.

I didn't suggest not using a scale, just using a scale to accurately measure several doses (like ten in this case, 10 mg) and then using liquid measurement to obtain one dose, by dissolving 10 mg in 10 mL of isopropyl alcohol and dispensing 1 mL of the solution into a pipe to evaporate. Anyone here can do this with only a $30 - $40 investment in hardware, rather than spending hundreds to thousands of dollars on a professional sub-milligram scale they don't really need. And even for those rich enough to afford such a scale, it takes more skill to handle such tiny weighing than it does to use volumetric dosing. Little things like breezes, fingerprints, eyelashes, magnetic fields, etc., make a difference, and confirming a weight by pouring the weighed sample efficiently onto a second paper is a real problem.

This is really interesting. I never knew that you could SL your benzo. I always chew mine. I never knew you could vaporize them and inhale them. It sounds like if you do inhale them that they do not last as long, therefore you are diluting your product.

I don't think the product is diluted, or being lost. From experience with vaping a variety of things, and seeing the same effect with IV administration, it seems like receptors adjust to being occupied sooner if they became saturated faster. So if a person could vape a benzo over, say, an hour, I would expect it to last as long as the same dose taken orally. It's not the model I had at first. At first I thought when drugs wore off it was because they had been eliminated from my system. But considering the long half-lives of many benzos and other drugs compared to their relatively short duration, the brain must be tuning them out even though they are still in the blood stream.
 
To the OP: etizolam's boiling point is 545.3 celsius/371 fahrenheit.

Of some reference for those who get liquid/make their liquid from powder for volumetric dosing (propylene glycol+etizolam), PG's boiling point is only 188 celsius. So you'll need quite a lot of heat to vaporize etizolam, i'm not too familiar w/ vaporizing & attainable heat-levels.

I just happen to know this b/c I "simmer" PG+etizolam solutions to lower PG content (SIMMER never boil, as PG's "flash point"--or this may be the kindle point.. if someone helps me out here)--flashing/kindling your solution will literally create a flame atop your metal hold piece--its only at 219 fahrenheit & 104 celsius supposedly--& by the time you get the flame out; half your etizolam is cooked. So if I heat PG+etizolam, i use slow heat & take it off if it starts bubbling; then readd w/ the flame a bit farther away--it'll take about ~5 minutes to rid 2-3mL of PG (particularly for IV). A closed class flask actually works best b/c there's no oxygen for the flame, but, these start cracking after 4-5 uses IME. 8)

don't try injecting either. it's not soluble. i gave myself a lump over a month ago from alcohol and etiz inspired stupidity.

You either partially missed the register & muscled, subcutaneously injected, or skin-popped part of it; or blew out your vein. I don't know if you were using pure >99% quality powder or not; but if done so w/ 3-5mL of warm/hot water.. it will be fine- JUST DON'T MISS. No need for ethanol either, you NEED propylene glycol its $13 for a pint, or just under 500mL at walgreens & Rite Aide has it too--you just got to call it in, & its there overnight/next day, 2 days tops; if its taking longer? Call to a different pharmacy b/c their supplier is likely out. Be sure to ask for propylene glycol USP grade, though--and if they ask why, just say you make your own e-cigarette blends. Other pharmacies should have it, but i get all my Rx's from Rite Aide & they're the cheapest i've found (aside from gallons on the internet). Used to get it from Walgreens, but last experience took a week t get in (last two experiences was overnighted? :? )

I've made solutions of up to 3.67mg:1mL propylene glycol ratios; I prefer to load 4mg hot, distilled H20 w/ 6mg of the etizolam mixture--which would be an even 22mg etizolam (i have a tolerance, obviously). Cold water also works fine, (hot/warm isn't essential but helps draw better; but you could backload easily this way w/ an order syringe) but, if i register & then have to register after i untie & have to dig a little down- too much blood can clog my tip--especially if i'm having a hard time (even a 28g).

if you're QUICK at registering; here's another technique: simmer your concoction--using technique above your quote addressed to the OP--of your PG+etizolam concoction, until you have a slight but decent bubbly-sorta boil, but not a hard boil (but be careful, its very easy to ignite the propylene glycol--this will destroy your etizolam; pull off everytime you see it start to bubble; then reapply heat; takes ~5min & you'll lose 10-20 units of all PG)- as soon as the any bubbling stops--it'll draw up & go out, but i repeat, IF YOU'RE QUICK. I suggest having your tie on & alcohol pads already wiped down, w/ a trusted register spot & not be using anything over a once used rig (actually, brand new is usually a MUST & is preferable; but i know this isn't always possible as some areas don't have needle exchanges--i travel 90 minutes to my closest one, so i mark my 1st registers in case i wont be in the area to exchange mine out for new ones).

Other than this--the stuff is very easy on my veins (remember just 3-5mL distilled, preferably warm/hot h2O ; & 5-7mL etizolam & PG--whatever fills a full 1cc syringe); can't even tell I partake in IV usually 1-2 times a day (if i'm going on a tear).. i usually just use it sublingually & orally--w/ an oral syringe. The rush isn't that much a difference anyway. Sometimes IV is just needed if I feel a seizure coming on (have has non-diagnosed seizures since age 15, until i finally see a neurologist in late July--but I can always feel my seizures coming on w/in about 1-5 minutes--so I usually have a 30g small tip loaded for emergencies)
 
just using a scale to accurately measure several doses (like ten in this case, 10 mg) and then using liquid measurement to obtain one dose, by dissolving 10 mg in 10 mL of isopropyl alcohol and dispensing 1 mL of the solution

Um, why isopropyl alcohol may I ask? Surely you don't ingest isopropyl alcohol!? And, assuming you don't, why then go through all the extra steps of having to dry off the solvent? Etizolam & most benzodiazepines/thienodiazepines are much more soluble in propylene glycol; a pint is $13 & some change at Rite Aide here. And its not toxic, unlike isopropyl if consumed.

Not to mention i've been able to get a 3.67mg/1mL ratio of etizolam soluble in propylene glycol (550mg in 15mL)- very easy & safer for IV use (and on your veins) as many milliliters of H2O can be added for a 3-4mg dose. Even my doses >22mg (in 6ml); or even 25-26mg doses w/ 3mL of H2O will work fine. although i prefer to use 22mg (6mL w/ the 3.67mg/mL strength_ so i can add 4mL of water--in case registering is being a dick & i end up w/ blood in my tip (which, if enough is in there--will clog a 27g rig, i use 29's, but going to have to move to 28's, then 27's shortly- like to save the 30's for ER purposes)
 
don't try injecting either. it's not soluble. i gave myself a lump over a month ago from alcohol and etiz inspired stupidity.

I just did the same thing; thought i was registered on a vein I usually don't hit--ended up skin popping it..ugh. But, as I explained before I use propylene glycol & hot/warm (altho not necessary) distilled H2O; ethanol is horrible w/ etizolam--or any traditional 1,4-benzodiazepines & diazepine derivatives; aside from the few that are water soluble: midazolam especially: lorazepam & diazepam to an extent) even w/ volumetric dosing its a hassle w/ ethanol, requiring too much mixing to get an even amount, & as your encounter verified, it is horrible for IV use.

Anyway I against I (pretty great band btw)- you said your lump around a month? I KNOW i skin popped mine--do you know if you also accidentally skin popped yours or did you inject subcutaneously? I know injecting subcutaneously will create a more widened, less noticeable lump b/c you're in the fat between the muscle & sin). Wheres skin intradermal popping (seems like you & I both did) leaves a more pronounced lump (at least w/ PG & water)- but my rig full w/ dark blood nearly to the point it was becoming too thick to inject w/ 29G rig (got bloody from registering 2 or 3 times, injecting a few units; but i'd lose my fucking vein after i'd take off my tourniquet! Even while digging deeper, couldn't re-register, when i usually can![/I ]uggh, Its like learning all over again--used to be able to cook, tie, register w/in 15 min when I was a junkie; but have been on buprenorphine since dec 07 & haven't touched an opioid or needle for IV use since--little outta practice).

Anyway, I against I i'm hoping it will go down faster than yours since my intradermal injection was probably/estimated 3mL blood; 4mL PG (>14.68mg etizolam, as i use a 3.6666~mg/mL PG solution; i just use 3.67 to round it up for math) & 3mL water. Anyway, just shot the solution down my mouth afterwards.. same thing. IV etizolam is really no big thing IMO. Hopefully the blood will dissolve it quicker. & no pain either (don't know if you had any from the ethanol)
 
But anyone have any input on this?
Accidental transdermal, subcutaneous injection ("skin popping"); probably/estimated 3mL blood (from registering & getting a few units in after digging around after i untie, but the losing it); 4mL PG (~14.68mg etizolam, as i use a 3.6666..mg/mL PG solution; i just use 3.67 to round it up for math) & 3mL water.

How long will this this accidental lump stick around? Hoping the blood will help it dissolve; its been about 3 hours & it seems that its gone down? I think a small lump will stick around depending on how much PG was in there--b/c after i'd register, i'd backload w/ oral syringe 1:1 PG/etizolam & water up to a 100 units/1cc). Good news is, this will still dissolve into my system; almost like a really really long 0.5-2 day extended release pill, heh. Anyway, any feedback would be appreciated! (sorry its off topic-but was brought up before, so thought i'd comment)
 
I love the info, but this thread is about vaping.

Something doesn't seem right here...
To the OP: etizolam's boiling point is 545.3 celsius/371 fahrenheit.

Of some reference for those who get liquid/make their liquid from powder for volumetric dosing (propylene glycol+etizolam), PG's boiling point is only 188 celsius. So you'll need quite a lot of heat to vaporize etizolam, i'm not too familiar w/ vaporizing & attainable heat-levels.


Anyways, I tried dropping a lil drop or two of my 150mg etiz / 15ml PG solution in a chillum with tobacco. Smoked with a hemp wick. Felt extra effects... even tonight after I just packed in some nice mint/java cigar tobacco mix into it. Much more than a tobacco buz. I would've dropped a ML into an oil burner and try vaping it like that but I broke all mine recently. Had to quit chasing the dopamine. Anyways, stuff certainly does seem vape-able but I must ask... why? Only reason I see is to 'chase the dragon' if you're chasing/on other drugs. This drug has no place in my life for that so my care of this mostly stops here. Would still be interested in more science behind this.

Edit: Also, I hope that IV miss/whatever lump goes down or away well without much trouble. My heart goes out to your IV miss, haha. <3 (I love the universe, so your arm's a part of that).

Pt 2. smoking in chillum, seems like not much residue left. But I definitely felt a bit of effect when i add a drop or so of the etiz solution to tobacco. Not my style of thing to keep doin though,
 
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