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Can I just ask my dr for Buprenorphine?

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Anon54

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I fairly reguarly have 400mg codeine & recently have been taking oxycodone occationly. Ive tried other opiates but havnt made a habbit of taking them.
im just wondering if I could just ask my dr for Buprenorphine instead of fucking around with dealers or pharmacy shopping.
I read in the paper about codeine how there was a woman put on methadone for it.
im happer after i have opiates so is the process easy?
can i just walk into my dr & ask for Buprenorphine?

I know with methadone u gotta sign up & wait for a yr but i think u can also get it for oxycodone addiction & not just heroin but I think methadone would make give me a worse addiction.

I think Buprenorphine maybe helpful though. it's a weak opiate like codeine right?
suppose to be good for depression to.
I'm gunna try quitting codeine soon. but ive tried ADs & nothing works for my depression as well as codeine/tramadol/oxycodone.
I took tramadol for 4.5 months & it worked great for my depression.

Im probably not going to do it. I was just wondering if i could just walk into my drs. say i drink 400mg of codeine on most days & ask for Buprenorphine.
 
the reason your depressed is because your doing opiates..they aren't "helping" your depression they are causing it..its a vicious cycle...and No bupe is not a weak opiate..
 
Bupe is NOT weak like codeine... check out other threads about bupe/suboxone or subutex. Use the search function andview the megathread.

In short-no. You should not do that (do not just 'ask your Dr. for Bupe). First (esp since you haven't a positive definition of what the substance is) look at your situation clearly + maybe get the opinions of others (regarding seriousness of your state) and then lay out all pos. Avenues.

Etc... bedtime.
 
Buprenorphine is definitely not "weak". It's very potent, and is used as a painkiller in doses as small as 200 micrograms. There are a number of erowid experience reports of relatively opiate-naive users (i.e. people without tolerance) getting massively nauseous from doses as small as 1 mg. However, it is a partial agonist, rather than a full agonist like methadone, heroin, etc, which gives it a lower ceiling for effects, making it less likely to cause fatal respiratory depression even in extremely high doses, and also meaning that the withdrawal symptoms are not as severe.

People do get put on buprenorphine and methadone for heavy codeine dependence, but not just because they are "happier" on opiates. Also, if you found tramadol to be an effective antidepressant, you should be aware that tramadol is a serotonin-noradrenaline reuptake inhibitor (SNRI, i.e. like duloxetine (aka cymbalta), venlafaxine (aka effexor), and desvenlafaxine (aka pristiq)), as well as an opiate agonist, so a doctor who knows their psychopharmacology would be unlikely to be convinced that is was the opiate effect that was relieving your depression.
 
Ask your Doctor for Temgesics, which are 200 microgram sub lingual tablets. They are great for killing opiate craving and also have antidepressant effects.
 
if that doesnt work, just ask him for some dilles and explain to him its for your cousins step brother's uncle's nephew whom of which fucked his back up a couple of years ago and the nurfen just isnt cuttin it for him anymore...

in all seriousness, I'm pretty sure your addiction doesnt even compare to the mad hammer addicts that use this medicinally... not even close (Im only sayin this through experiences of mates of mine that are on the bupe. program)

please dont say you were gonna tell ya GP you were abusing two different pharmacutical opiates for non-medicional reasons, followed by askin him for bupe??... thats a serious LOL

just sayin..
 
yeah ok i get bupe isnt "weak"
just wondering how u get it.
^^wtf it's presribed for ppl who abuse opiates. so i would be a candidate because i take codeine & oxy sometimes.
how do ppl get it then?
 
Yes you could get bupe very easily. Find a 'bupe doctor', not all doctors are authorized to prescribe it.

I'd recommend not messing with it though...your tolerance will go through the roof and you'll just end up in a much worse place.

I had a codeine habit with other opiates like oxy/heroin occasionally and bupe seemed like a great idea at the time. Like 5 years later I'm still on bupe and it doesn't do anything for me...it's hard to get off and it sucks having to take something every morning to feel ok.
 
^^thank u for a goood answer
im seriously addicted to opiates. i NEEDED to take codeine today. & ive been occationaly taking oxy.
im diagnosed with anxiety & take antipychotics so i get hangovers. i sometimes take opiates & benzos.

I get headaches & anxiety & it's always there to turn too.
I dunno if bupe is a good idea but i dont like pharmacy shopping or messing with dealers just to feel normal.
 
Dude, i think the overhanging idea of this thread is this:

Just cop out the fucking pussy codeine withdrawal if you feel your behavior is a problem - the rest of us can see you're just looking to get high off the system. You're not unlike many of us here who thought getting on bupe or methadone was a good idea to get your drugs easily. Truth is it's a pain in the arse, and once you're kinda done with going to the chemist daily and you miss a few days - then you'll know what pain is like... It'll last for six weeks or more and you'll wanna die.

the codeine withdrawal will be nothing but a few days of not feeling 100%, a few missed meals and a sweaty nights sleep - just fucking cop it on the chin.
 
It's also very easy to taper off codeine, with how available it is. Just cut your doses by 100mg or so a day, then have a few days of just popping the pills normally, then cut those doses, and you can taper completely with no problems in the space of a week or two.

I think going onto a maintenance program for codeine addiction would be a bad idea, you'll end up far more dependent on bupe than you ever were on codeine, it would suck having to deal with the system and rock up to a chemist every day, and getting off it is supposed to be incredibly hard even tapering slowly.
 
^ I'm going to have to agree with Mr Ibis and Crankinit here, going on bupe would be a step in the wrong direction. It'd be much easier to just taper off codeine without the aid of stronger opiates. If you were really concerned you could discuss it with a GP and you might get something like diazepam to assist you but I couldn't say (and asking for it outright would be a terrible idea).
 
To the OP, It never fails to amaze me how many people say Anti-Depressants dont work on drug forums. Half the shit you're pumping into your system is the reason why they're ineffective. Im no advocate for them, but sobriety and the right AD can work quite well for alot of people. You deplete your brain with chems and how the fuck is it supposed to work?

Im on Lexapro for Anxiety and also sober and its great. Takes the edge off, no massive personality shift just chills me out. If i get high i do feel shit, but i know why. Don't blame the meds, you're the one preventing them from working.
 
shoo-bop said:
Buprenorphine is definitely not "weak". It's very potent, and is used as a painkiller in doses as small as 200 micrograms. There are a number of erowid experience reports of relatively opiate-naive users (i.e. people without tolerance) getting massively nauseous from doses as small as 1 mg. However, it is a partial agonist, rather than a full agonist like methadone, heroin, etc, which gives it a lower ceiling for effects, making it less likely to cause fatal respiratory depression even in extremely high doses, and also meaning that the withdrawal symptoms are not as severe.

People do get put on buprenorphine and methadone for heavy codeine dependence, but not just because they are "happier" on opiates. Also, if you found tramadol to be an effective antidepressant, you should be aware that tramadol is a serotonin-noradrenaline reuptake inhibitor (SNRI, i.e. like duloxetine (aka cymbalta), venlafaxine (aka effexor), and desvenlafaxine (aka pristiq)), as well as an opiate agonist, so a doctor who knows their psychopharmacology would be unlikely to be convinced that is was the opiate effect that was relieving your depression.
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good post.

and that is why my first time on bupe was my last time. It has a really long half-life and if you fuck up the dose (which is what happened to me) your off your face for days and then feelin hung over for days after that.

also I would say strictly from a getting high perspective if you take bupe it'll mean that you have to take ten times as much codeine/heroin/oxy to get high. I know someone on 30mg of bupe a day and they are can inject fifty in one hit (of good gear) and it only tickles the surface.
 
As a person coming off the street, with a codeine problem, you come off the street, most doctors will not put you on replacement therapy. Not even prescribe valium.

If you have health insurance you can can go to a private rehab/detox. Doctors have much more leeway once you are an inpatient, they might put you on something, maybe even prescribed codeine or oxy for a few days to ween you off, then benzos. But if you want to get off stuff, yeah be honest, spend a few weeks in a rehab if you are able.

If you want to check into a public detox, yeah you can probably get some replacement therapy. But it wont be as pleasant as staying at a private hospital. So you might as well just reduce at home... 400, down to 350... 300... over a week...
 
physicians can prescribe Subutex as it's a "pain management drug", and give it to you off-label to combat opiate dependnecy pending ur on a waiting list for methadone or suboxone, a physician CANNOT RX SUBOXONE unless they are certified. Suboxone is a drug for opioid dependency because it has naloxone in it, subutex has no naloxone in it so its a pain management drug in the eyes of the FDA, suboxone is for addiction only because naloxone is in it. any physician can give out subutex...my primary once gave me a script for methadone 10mg to take 3x(how nieve to give a heroin addict a script for 90 methadones to take home, i was happy tho until he got paranoid after my 2nd script and said he cannot be a frequent prescriber to an addict as me, as i was on the waiting list for suboxone, and methadone is also known as a pain management drug&opioid addiction.
 
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