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Heroin Can cocaine be used to bring someone out of a *heroin* overdose?

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I've been wondering about this ever since I saw a movie where a heroin dealer explains to his buyer that the junk he has is super potent, so he tells her he is also going to leave her with a small bump of some primo coke that he instructs her to use in case she feels like she is overdosing. I know it's just a movie and all, but is there actually some truth to this? I know narcan should be given to a person overdosing on opiates at all costs but made me wonder if a strong stimulant like cocaine could bring a person to consciousness until narcan can be utilized. If this is true, can one use methamphetamine for the same purpose?
 
i wonder this myself, the more logical answer says no. if it were true im sure there wouldnt be tons of people here suggesting not to do speedballs cuz of respiratory depression and other bad things, right?

On the other hand it makes sense that it could cuz 1 cancels out the other. either way im gonna say no, that it cannot.

If cocaine could take you out of a dope OD then im sure methamphetamine would do the same as well, or close enough to it.
 
No. No. No.
All this would do is possibly add cardiotoxicity and make the whole situation even worse. If this did work, then by your logic it would be impossible to OD on opiates whilst speedballing.
Don't ever take stupid doses of opiates and think "I'll just add some coke".
Once you're blue and falling out get some Narcan A.S.A.P.
 
I would never recommend it but I think it might help you stay conscious during those borderline heavy nods/possible overdose. The kind of overdose where you're completely unresponsive but might pull out of it without any narcan.

The reason I think it works is because people who speedball will sometimes nod out and OD after the coke wears off. So if you kept doing bumps so the coke lasts as long as the dose of heroin you might avoid the heavy nod/borderline OD. Maybe.

That said, I would never rely on this for an OD.
 
If someone overdoses they can only be brought out of it by Narcan. If anyone overdoses, by all means call an ambulance or bring them to the ER if there is no time to wait.
 
^buprenorphine should work as a substitute if there is no narcan available.
 
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Hey man elaborate on that a bit. Are you sayin that by takin a sub when someone is overdosing will stop the overdose. Subs take at least a half hour to kick in so how does that work?
 
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Hey man elaborate on that a bit. Are you sayin that by takin a sub when someone is overdosing will stop the overdose. Subs take at least a half hour to kick in so how does that work?
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Yeah I think that's incorrect. Wouldn't subs just increase respiratory depression? The onset time could be altered if you IV right? Or maybe not, I heard somewhere Suboxone doesn't have the rush that most opiates give you when you IV. @OP doesn't work like that. I used to think that too, so I'd have caffeine pills to help me from nodding. But it doesn't work, neither would cocaine.
Narcan is the best from what I've read.
 
You will depress their breathing more... On top of that, if you do rouse them it won't last nearly long enough.

This mean more taxing on the heart and brain...

So, the most definite answer is no.
 
XThexXTank said:
Hey man elaborate on that a bit. Are you sayin that by takin a sub when someone is overdosing will stop the overdose. Subs take at least a half hour to kick in so how does that work?
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Yes I am saying that in theory it should work since buprenorphine has higher affinity for the receptors than most opiates, thereby replacing them and inducing precipitated withdrawal if you are addicted. Though it would not work with fentanyl, but pretty much everything else. Of course it has to be administered IV.
 
NO.

Buprenorphine might be able to though, as mentioned earlier, but we really really REALLY do not want to rely on a CNS stimulant to counteract the effects of a CNS depressant overdose, that's not how you would be treated in the hospital or by EMTs, they'd administer the opioid antagonist naloxone.
 
So what if it isn't an opiate over dose.
What if you drank wayy too much liquor and took too many benzos/ barbs or w.e

There is no narcan for that ,what do you do to counter that?
 
It does not seem like a thing that could work but you never know until you're the one in the situation but there was this story on the news about a guy who was tripping on acid and he had consumed a very large amount and feared that he was going to die. He was rushed to the ER and was given large amounts of painkillers, Vicodin I believe, and it relaxed him enough to bring the trip down a bit. So in the case of a heroin OD adding cocaine into the equation (in a small amount) could possibly save that person. Its a touchy subject and there are a lot of variables but hope this could shed some light on your question.
 
Make yourself throw up and consume anything that could detoxify your liver. The mixture of alcohol and benzos is very dangerous so if you can your best bet is to try and throw up as much of the booze and hopefully some of the benzos will find its way out as well.
 
I mean if yer fucked up on liquor an benzos anythin you puke is extra drugs that could potentially make the situation worse. It wont lessen how fucked up ya are or reverse it. Idk what they give you to stop that. I mean they will pump yer stomach in the hospital but idk what they do to help ya with that.
 
No, opioids mainly cause death by central respiratory depression, which cocaine does not reverse. The problem isn't that you're too sedated and need to be perked up, it's that you can't breathe.
 
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