Calling B.S. on the Idea of 'Marijuana Addiction'

marijuana is definitely addictive, so i hate the title of this article.


That's not to say that some marijuana smokers don't find quitting difficult. Naturally, a handful of folks do, though this subpopulation is hardly large enough to warrant pot's legal classification (along with heroin) as an illicit substance with a "high potential for abuse."

according to the government's classification system, any USE of a schedule 1 substance is abuse. marijuana is used by FAR more people than heroin. it doesn't even compare. therefore marijuana has an extremely high potential for abuse.


Nor does this fact justify the continued arrest of more than 800,000 Americans annually for pot violations any more than such concerns would warrant the criminalization of booze or nicotine.

but arresting people for possesing heroin is fine and dandy?
 
burn out said:
marijuana is definitely addictive, so i hate the title of this article.


That's not to say that some marijuana smokers don't find quitting difficult. Naturally, a handful of folks do, though this subpopulation is hardly large enough to warrant pot's legal classification (along with heroin) as an illicit substance with a "high potential for abuse."

according to the government's classification system, any USE of a schedule 1 substance is abuse. marijuana is used by FAR more people than heroin. it doesn't even compare. therefore marijuana has an extremely high potential for abuse.


Nor does this fact justify the continued arrest of more than 800,000 Americans annually for pot violations any more than such concerns would warrant the criminalization of booze or nicotine.

but arresting people for possesing heroin is fine and dandy?
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...are you really serious?

Who the fuck honestly believes that the government's classification system is correct about any use of a schedule 1 substance? What the hell do they know and what would they have to gain by being honest? Use and abuse are two different things regardless of what the government says. I am not even going to start picking out examples of lies the government has spun, especially about drugs and marijuana in particular.

And secondly what does arresting people possessing heroin have to do with the argument, a whole other drug with an entirely different set of circumstances around it.

8)
 
dankstersauce said:
I was definately addicted to pot. I think it's kind of stupid to think just because marijuana isn't as addictive as other drugs that it's not addictive at all. Sure the withdrawals are mild and marijuana addiction is probably hyped up more than it really exists but it still happens.

I remember being extremely irritable and not wanting to even get out of bed if i didn't have some weed to smoke in the morning. Or me and 3 or 4 friends sitting around fiending when we couldn't find any pot. So yeah it's not as bad as the government says it is, but it is definately a real thing.
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not to belittle your experiences, but i dont think you should really use the term "fiending" in reference to not being able to get ahold of your DOC until you've been in that situation with 3 or 4 opiate addicts heading into WD's or a few crackheads who just finished fighting over the last rock and scouring the carpet hitting anything small whitish and solid cuz they "are soo sure they saw you drop a rock over there!"
 
cannabis can definetly be addcitive. Though there arent any withdrawl symptoms (besides cravings) many people develop daily habits of toking. Its obviously not as addictive as the big 4 (coke,crack,heroin,meth) but its still something. The diea of wasting governemnt money (which there is non of) on some addiction treatment center is total bullshit though. Quitting weed doesnt involve methadone, rehab, NA meetings or anything.
Id say that its about as addictive as caffeine. Once you stop you want it, sometimes really bad, but not so much that your willing to steal to get your dose.

a good explanation ive found (dont remeber source, sorry) is that marijuana habit is a good way to determine if someone has an addictive personality and if that person would have a harder time quitting the hard drugs.

so yea the shits addictive, but not nearly to the point that harder drugs are, and because there are no legitimate withdrawl symptoms it (shouldnt) be classified as addictive by the surgeon general

an addcition treatment center is so not what is needed now
 
The US is terrible. I hope the people of future generations actually have some government power supporting drugs. Cross your fingers.
 
I guess it may be slightly addictive for some people, but it definitely wasn't for me. I smoked pretty much every day for about 2 years and then stopped cold turkey about 4 months ago just to mix things up a little and get rid of tolerance (I'll probably start again soon). I didn't experience anything that I would consider even slightly close to signs of addiction. I could see how you can get cravings if you run out, but that's not a sign of real addiction. I would say it's about as addictive as anything that you like and could therefore be associated with endorphins, making it about as potentially addictive as spicy foods at most.
 
Student said:
...are you really serious?

Who the fuck honestly believes that the government's classification system is correct about any use of a schedule 1 substance? What the hell do they know and what would they have to gain by being honest? Use and abuse are two different things regardless of what the government says. I am not even going to start picking out examples of lies the government has spun, especially about drugs and marijuana in particular.

And secondly what does arresting people possessing heroin have to do with the argument, a whole other drug with an entirely different set of circumstances around it.

8)
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8) i never said the system was correct, i just said according to the system cannabis should be schedue 1. the article said:


That's not to say that some marijuana smokers don't find quitting difficult. Naturally, a handful of folks do, though this subpopulation is hardly large enough to warrant pot's legal classification (along with heroin) as an illicit substance with a "high potential for abuse."

and i said, since the government considers any use to be "abuse" marijuana definitely has a high potential for abuse. it's abused much more than heroin. so regardless of how messed up the current scheduling system is, if you go by it, pot should be schedule 1. i would be in favor of changing the scheduling system but thats not what the article was saying.
 
psychedelic nod said:
cannabis can definetly be addcitive. Though there arent any withdrawl symptoms (besides cravings) many people develop daily habits of toking. Its obviously not as addictive as the big 4 (coke,crack,heroin,meth) but its still something. The diea of wasting governemnt money (which there is non of) on some addiction treatment center is total bullshit though. Quitting weed doesnt involve methadone, rehab, NA meetings or anything.
Id say that its about as addictive as caffeine. Once you stop you want it, sometimes really bad, but not so much that your willing to steal to get your dose.
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i'm ashamed to say marijuana is the only drug where i have stolen money to get it. i also know other marijuana addicts who stole to fund their habit, people who ordinarily would never steal. also there some physical withdrawal symptoms, not nearly as bad as benzo withdrawal ive experienced but there are still physical withdrawal symptoms like loss of apatite.

a good explanation ive found (dont remeber source, sorry) is that marijuana habit is a good way to determine if someone has an addictive personality and if that person would have a harder time quitting the hard drugs.

so yea the shits addictive, but not nearly to the point that harder drugs are, and because there are no legitimate withdrawl symptoms it (shouldnt) be classified as addictive by the surgeon general

an addcition treatment center is so not what is needed now
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there are legitimate withdrawal symptoms, like loss of apatite.
 
burn out said:
i'm ashamed to say marijuana is the only drug where i have stolen money to get it. i also know other marijuana addicts who stole to fund their habit,
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wow. hate to hand you a bottle of cough syrup. sounds like you'd be a fiend over anything. no but seriously, if you're "addicted" to weed you're probably a pussy and should just leave drugs alone all together.
 
squirrel_master said:
wow. hate to hand you a bottle of cough syrup. sounds like you'd be a fiend over anything. no but seriously, if you're "addicted" to weed you're probably a pussy and should just leave drugs alone all together.
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I think it should have gone something like

'wow. I'm a little slow, mildly retarded really, and despite you having discussed your use all over the place, I'm just going to assume you're a pussy.'
 
I'd say weed is more habitual than addictive for me. Like if i have the means to smoke (money/suppliers) and the freedom to do so, I literally cannot stop myself. But sometimes I am forced to not smoke, like when I visited my parents for a week not that long ago I went 7 days without after many months of constant smoking. It was fine apart from a bit of trouble sleeping but that goes away after a few days. Yet as soon as I got back home about 4 weeks ago I was straight back on it and haven't stopped since.

Problem with weed for me nowadays is the tolerance to the negative effects. In the early days, I'd avoid smoking if I had something to do or had to talk to sober people for extended periods. Nowadays I can do anything stoned, go about my daily life fine, so I'm tempted to smoke far too often. I am addicted to weed yes, but in the same way that millions of people around the world can't go a day without caffiene. It is an addiction but it does not have any real detrimental effects on my life and it is the ultimate way to relax after a hard day's work. ;)

However, I do know a few people who are seriously addicted to it, as in CAN'T go a day without no matter what. All these people began smoking every day under 16 years of age though, I think it is much harder to stop when you have been doing it from such a young age.
 
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squirrel_master said:
wow. hate to hand you a bottle of cough syrup. sounds like you'd be a fiend over anything. no but seriously, if you're "addicted" to weed you're probably a pussy and should just leave drugs alone all together.
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i've used a lot of other drugs including heroin, cocaine, lots of alcohol, lots of benzos, amphetamines and more and none of them have ever made me fiend for them like weed. even benzos, which i am dependent on now, are nothing even close to weed. for me benzos are mostly just a physical dependency. sometimes i don't take them when i am supposed to because i am too lazy to go up stairs and get the pill bottle. sometimes i even forget to take them. weed on the other hand, the very idea of me forgetting to smoke weed when i was addicted is ridiculous. my entire life revolved around it and as soon as i would get home from work, the first thing i would do would be to rush upstairs to my stash.

i used to save up weed stems and even ashes in fear that some day i might run out and i'd be able to find a little piece of unburnt weed in the ashes. i used to scour the house for tiny nugs i might have dropped trying to gather enough to fill a bowl so i could get high like a crackhead. i even went as far as digging up and smoking roots i had from a grow i had done when i was out after reading that every part of the plant contains thc (for those wondering, roots don't get you high). no other drug has produced this type of compulsive behavior in me. not even close. i am over 2.5 years clean from weed now and i still crave the high every single day. i crave it like no other drug.

i'm not saying weed will be like this for everyone. i've seen tons of people use it responsibly. i am just recounting my experience with marijuana and how addictive i found it to be.
 
if you're "addicted" to weed you're probably a pussy
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if you say things like this, you're probably an idiot 8) there are endless threads on cannabis addiction on this site. cannabis addiction is entirely real and not acknowledging that only encourages irresponsible use.

There are cannabinoid receptor sites in your body just like opiod receptors. Cannabis use also stimulates the opiate receptors directly. When your body is used to a certain level of cannabinoids in the body, it will react when that level falls too low. Yes the addictive potential of cannabis is very low compared to almost all other drugs, but heavy use over time can lead to dependency. Certain individuals may also be more susceptible to cannabis addiction due to the nature of the withdrawal symptoms. Insomnia, nausea, loss of appetite, anxiety, depression, and irritability are all symptoms of cannabis withdrawal. From users I've personally met, those naturally prone to anxiety and insomnia especially seem to have difficulty ceasing their cannabis use.

Just like alcohol, most people who use cannabis can and do use it responsibly and do not become addicts. But just because most people cause use it without problems does not mean it is not addictive. The impact of cannabis addiction on most addicts willh pale in comparison to the impact of say cocaine or opiate addiction, or even alcohol addiction, but it is not without impact. It is worth studying to help those who would like to stop their use but so far have been unsuccessful.
 
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cannabis addiction is entirely real and not acknowledging that only encourages irresponsible use.
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agreed 1000%. i maintain that one of the foremost reasons i became so addicted to cannabis was because i was told repeatedly that it was not addictive. i was given the impression that i could smoke up whenever i wanted and i would never experience withdrawal symptoms and any negative effects it had on me would vanish within a few weeks/months of abstinence (neither of which were true for me).
 
I was addicted, all my money used to go towards it
"when will I get paid, how much weed will that be, how long will that last me for,
how much can I smoke in a day to last it till my next payment"
its addictiveness is fucking under rated. :\
 
cannabis is not addictive. it's the people who have addictive personalities. there is a difference. there is only a "handful" of smokers who can't quit and it's because they have addictive personalities.
 
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