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is there a list of medicinal marijuana users which can be accessed by employers?

i read senate bill 420 calls for a voluntary registry, but was it ever created and is it secure?

since i'm considering becoming a police officer i was also wondering how much you think having a "reccomendation" would affect potential employment in the law enforcement field
 
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it definitely wont show up in a simply backround check, but for law enforcement that could be a completely different story. I know that they send letters to MANY people that you know to get references, and send out private investigators to those peoples houses sometimes, (they came to ask me some questions about my girls brother who just joined to police academy.) I do believe something like this would show up on a more comprehensive backround check but thats just speculation. i personally wouldn't risk it, and i would have a trusted friend who has a card get bud for me and only smoke in the privacy of your own home. its probably not worth the risk of possibly limiting yourself in your career of choice. (but once again i could be wrong or just paranoid haha)

bwt i found http://420corona.blogspot.com/2012/03/few-california-pot-patients-partake-of.html this, idk how reliable the source is though but they seem to answer your question about the registry
 
I have a Medical Marijuana Recommendation in California and it is NOT visible on your record unless you pursue the COUNTY card.

Seriously, the California medical marijuana policy is so ghetto and unorganized. I literally walked into the doctor's office with no medical records, told him I couldn't sleep and he gave me a 1 year recommendation for 50$.

I was at a dispensary buying top shelf weed 15 minutes after I left his office. The only way the dispensaries can check to see if your recommendation is VALID is when they check their California dispensary website.

Do not get the county card though, just keep the recommendation (the signed paper by the doctor) and that will get you into any collective in California (pretty much) and you will be good to go. The written recommendation paper is basically a "get out of jail free" card. Whereas the physical county card granted by California is a "dont even go to jail card."

Just keep the paper and don't get the county card and you will not be in any database.
 
Do not get the county card though, just keep the recommendation (the signed paper by the doctor) and that will get you into any collective in California (pretty much) and you will be good to go. The written recommendation paper is basically a "get out of jail free" card. Whereas the physical county card granted by California is a "dont even go to jail card."

Just keep the paper and don't get the county card and you will not be in any database.

It is important to point out you should carry a copy of the certificate with you, while keeping the original in a safe location.

Otherwise, if a cop is in a foul mood, I have heard they might rip up your original in front of you - just so they can take you to jail.
 
I have a Medical Marijuana Recommendation in California and it is NOT visible on your record unless you pursue the COUNTY card.

Seriously, the California medical marijuana policy is so ghetto and unorganized. I literally walked into the doctor's office with no medical records, told him I couldn't sleep and he gave me a 1 year recommendation for 50$.

I was at a dispensary buying top shelf weed 15 minutes after I left his office. The only way the dispensaries can check to see if your recommendation is VALID is when they check their California dispensary website.

Do not get the county card though, just keep the recommendation (the signed paper by the doctor) and that will get you into any collective in California (pretty much) and you will be good to go. The written recommendation paper is basically a "get out of jail free" card. Whereas the physical county card granted by California is a "dont even go to jail card."

Just keep the paper and don't get the county card and you will not be in any database.


First off, there is no record. You are right. The county cards are fucking retarded and it's just another way of the local government to take your money. NO ONE I HAVE EVER KNOWN who has had a valid written recommendation has ever been arrested for SOLELY possessing the dried flowers of marijuana.

Now you toss in paraphernalia, roaches and intoxicated driving in there...yeah, there are your arrests.

In fact, Im a manager at one of the few collectives left in Southern California and now that I think of it....I have never had anyone with a county card come to my shop that didnt appear to be undercover(it's surprisingly more common than you would think with the state of our city government).

In short, long live safe access and FUCK BONNIE DUMANIS. FUCKING WHORE.

That is all :) Peace
 
It is important to point out you should carry a copy of the certificate with you, while keeping the original in a safe location.

Otherwise, if a cop is in a foul mood, I have heard they might rip up your original in front of you - just so they can take you to jail.

You are very right. Especially if you are pulled over in a Conservative area or neighborhood, I could totally see a skinhead redneck cop ripping up the recommendation and taking you to jail. There are some neighborhoods where I don't even drive in when I have medicine DESPITE being a legal patient. Some of the police are just so retarded and brutal.



In fact, Im a manager at one of the few collectives left in Southern California

Are you joking when you say "few collectives left". Socal presently has more Marijuana dispensaries than Starbucks coffee shops. Hell, I've checked weedmaps and Southern California presently has the most dispensaries between all legal medicinal states. Wait, am I just misinterpreting the meaning between "collectives" and "dispensaries". I apologize if I am but if you are referring to medical marijuana shops in Socal, there is a surplus if anything.

Here in Norcal we could use a few more dispensaries, I have to pretty much drive all the way out to San Francisco to get some truly top shelf Marijuana. Any other club and its midgrade at best. Which is indeed surprising because most of Socal's marijuana is grown here in the North.



I have never had anyone with a county card come to my shop that didnt appear to be undercover(it's surprisingly more common than you would think with the state of our city government).
What do undercover's come to do at shops like yours? What specifically are they trying to "spy" on or "find"?

Thanks.
 
If you smoke weed then becoming a cop maybe isn't the best idea. It just sounds like a recipe for disaster. I mean are you going to refuse to arrest weed smokers or are you okay with that?
 
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If you smoke weed then becoming a cop maybe isn't the best idea. It just sounds like a recipe for disaster. I mean are you going to refuse to arrest weed smokers or are you okay with that?

cops have the ability to enforce laws how they see fit, ie. what they charge you with
its an unwritten rule really, if a cop wants to be a dick he can pile on the charges (someone charged with weed possession in a car could also easily be charged with dwi/dui because of the thc in your blood)

ive been in situations and have heard friends tell me about times where cops just tell you to throw away your weed and just get on your way

promoting a positive, friendly, down to earth police image isnt damaging when the only reprecussion is letting some teenage kid with a gram go home without a record

just cause i drive above the speed limit sometimes doesnt mean i wont arrest speeders
its really a case by case basis

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truly i dont need a medicinal card as i live in middle class suburbia where police are scarce and ive been pulled over once in 2 years, so im not really worried about being arrested for posession, but a prescription is convenient and a nice safety net

california is very weed liberal already, and im going to have to be honest about my drug use if im given a likely polygraph, so i wonder if marijuana use will look better if i have a doctors prescription for it?
 
Do not get the county card though, just keep the recommendation (the signed paper by the doctor) and that will get you into any collective in California (pretty much) and you will be good to go. The written recommendation paper is basically a "get out of jail free" card. Whereas the physical county card granted by California is a "dont even go to jail card."

Just keep the paper and don't get the county card and you will not be in any database.

Could you, or someone else, clarify this point for me? I'm in California temporarily (between schools), and was looking at getting a medical marijuana card. However, on the MMJ site it seemed like I needed to prove that I was a resident of the county I was applying for the card in, and since I don't live here, and hence don't have prove of residency, that I couldn't get my card.

However, you seem to be saying that there's a difference between that (the county card), and a MMJ recommendation that can still get you into the clubs. I'd also like to avoid any public record if possible, simply because I will be working for publicly funded universities, which have rules against employing people on MMJ (since it's still illegal federally).

Any clarification/confirmation on this issue would be appreciated :)
 
The information is open upon request, at the time I don't know of any companies or cases where an employer has paid time towards looking into the database. But you know some day it will be integrated with an employment background check or something.

Even if you are or become an officer the computer database is "separate" per se You have nothing to worry about.
 
Even if you are or become an officer the computer database is "separate" per se You have nothing to worry about.

Wouldn't go on this exclusively... Government backgrounds are much more thourough. Often, they will have a detective visit your wife/GF's sister/brother and ask about your habits. Neighbors too.

Beyond that, I've known friends in the same military branch as I get nailed for things I would have considered impossible to know. Some departments do their homework. Others do not so much.
 
!_MDMA_! if you're a police officer you're probably going to be put in situations where you're under a lot of pressure to bust someone for using weed. You can't always let people off. For example if you're sent along to raid someone solely for growing or possessing weed. You can't hold your hands up and say it's not my fault I had no choice to do it, my superiors made me do it, because you would know exactly what you're getting into when you decide to go into the profession. I understand what you're saying but there is not always room for discretion. If you are pro-cannabis and use cannabis for medicinal reasons or recreation then I think it's pretty hypocritical to be okay with doing that. If a police officer used weed and busted me it would be pretty clear to me the guy is having double standards - one rule for him, another for me. Definitely not cool.

edit: just to add, it's not 'pretty' hypocritical, it's very hypocritical to do weed and be okay with potentially ruining someone's life because of growing/possessing. It's on a completely different level to the speeding example, although that technically isn't very good either. If you have a career as a police officer you're going to be doing more than giving teenagers a simple ticket for a measly little roach.
 
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well in ca i wont be raiding medicinal grows, shutting down black market sales is fine for me, it often gets reinvested into other criminal acts anyway

hopefully marijuana will be legalized within the next 4 years and this issue will cease to exist
 
^ You've honestly never helped out a mate who was outta smoke when you had plenty? I would find that hard to believe, I would say every smoker I know has done so from time to time and this does actually count as 'black market sales'. It's pretty ignorant to categorize all black market sales as the same, sure on the high end of the scale it is often reinvested into other criminal ventures but in other cases not so much. I have seen enough of the show 'Cops' to know it's far from unheard of to see 10+ cops kicking in someones door for dealing and recovering under an ounce of weed. I recall a specific occasion where a dude was charged with supply for having like two 8ths and a quarter packaged seperately, whether he was dealing or not I can only speculate but I know plenty of people (including myself) who don't sell who could have been caught out like that before whether it was due to seperating strains or just how their dealer sold it to them... If you think it is entirely in your hands whether you must participate in such activities as a Law Enforcement Officer I would highly suspect that you are mistaken, it is probably unavoidable in the course of a career.

Also, I feel that it's pretty bullshit you would book people for traffic offenses you commit yourself, what gives you the right? It's one thing for a parent or something to try educate their children to make better choices, but you are not better than any other member of the public. If you would do and/or have done that same shit yourself then where do you get the right to infract others for an identical offence?

I hope weed is legal in the near future too, and if it is likely to become so anywhere California is definately up there, however you can't hide behind this because it is far from guaranteed. Furthermore, I am aware this is cannabis discussion but your name suggests you use drugs other than cannabis, and I am curious if you see it as somehow more okay to arrest people for use or possession of these substances? Not having a go at you mate, just genuinely curious. We all make our own way in life and form our own morals, for me personally I couldn't do a lot of what being a copper entails (a profession that would otherwise be one I would perhaps consider and definately think would be exciting and rewarding at times,) without feeling highly immoral and like a total hypocrite, if you don't feel the same way then power to you I guess... I would urge you to think about the fact that if a cop had busted you for drugs it would more than likely prevent you from entering what is apparently your chosen career, you will be doing this to many you arrest for doing the same shit you have done.

As a side note I am jealous as hell of you folks in CA, down in Melboune Australia we don't even have MMJ.
 
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^ You've honestly never helped out a mate who was outta smoke when you had plenty? I would find that hard to believe, I would say every smoker I know has done so from time to time and this does actually count as 'black market sales'. It's pretty ignorant to categorize all black market sales as the same

Bolded for truthiness.

Also, I feel that it's pretty bullshit you would book people for traffic offenses you commit yourself, what gives you the right?
All cops do this shit. fucking stupid.
 
No offence but anyone with a moral backbone wouldn't be willing to bust cannabis smokers or growers if they themselves smoke. You can lose your right to get funding for a college education and get a criminal record which affects job prospects and basically have your life ruined. For anyone to have a part in that is bad, but for someone who themself does the very same thing but is okay with busting others for smoking growing beggars belief.
 
yea i've had a past, so has every other cop, we're all humans

if cops were regulated on the saint-like conditions you seem to expect from them we'd have none and there'd be no enforcement = chaos

i've learned from my mistakes with drug use or sale, and i'm not supportive of it at all, so i dont feel like a hypocrite

there will be a few times where i'll feel bad for what i have to do, but if i'm risking my life everyday to help people and save lives, and that's the biggest sacrifice then i can live with that

e/ i dont plan on smoking if i ever get the job, itd be too important to lose
i think its pretty funny that you guys hold this utopian idea of what cops have to be
why dont we try to institute communism again while we're on this tangent

id assume you'd be realistic that cops have lives just like you, they arent perfect

id be supportive of cops that are lenient to the drug culture, when lets be real completely straightedge people are not, those cool cops most of have encountered arent

cops are supposed to uphold the laws when they are cops, its unfair and unrealistic to assume theyve been robots their whole life before they chose their field
 
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