Caffeine vs Ephedrine?

[girl1]

I'm wondering which would work better as a pick-me-up towards the end of a night of raving. If it's past 4am, I usually don't like to drop again, so I was considering taking either caffeine or ephedrine to keep me going til the end of the night.

I've taken caffeine pills before, and I find that they make me mentally awake but I still feel physically exhausted and unable to keep dancing.

I'm wondering if ephedrine would give a similar effect, or if its worth looking into for next time.

Also, how large of a dose of ephedrine would give me ideal results, given that I'm only 100lbs?

Thanks!

 

[ro4eva]

From my past years of first hand experience on the matter, I find that ephedrine works better in this regard than caffeine. However, ephedrine mixed with mdma may cause a significant increase in blood pressure, heart rate and dehydration. Therefore, I'd say, to be on the safe side, start off with no more than 8-16mg and see how that works before deciding to increase the dose. Also, combining caffeine on top of mdma + ephedrine is a bad idea. I tried it once and felt like I was gonna collapse. I'm grateful that I decided to bring some Xanax with me as a precaution that night.

 

[Hiltoniano]

Honestly I would reccomend a low dose benzo or a couple drinks to come down off a roll from a rave. Caffeine and ephedrine are dirty as fuck, at least to me. Come down don't try to maintain the "up" with some shoddy OTC stim.

 

[opium]

drink a monster like a normal person

dont go lookin for a white trash cvs speed.

if i were to recommend, skip caffeine and eph and grab a few addies. Those will keep you up for the night, and the whole next day. Win

 

[Swimmingdancer]

We don't do drug recommendations here, so lets please try not to get into drugs that the OP didn't ask about and stick to the benefits/disadvantages of the 2 he asked about. OP, to give you safety and side effect advice we really need to know if you are using other drugs on these occasions. We also can't tell you how much ephedrine to take, everyone is different and all you can do is start with a low dose. And we also can't be sure how it will affect you or whether or not you will find it useful/pleasant, because everyone reacts to different drugs differently.

Personally I don't think ephedrine is really any better than caffeine, it's stronger, but more dangerous; I wouldn't bother with it.

Ephedrine can be dangerous to take with other drugs or while doing a lot of dancing/exercise or while not drinking enough fluids. Healthy young people have died of heart attacks, strokes, etc from taking normal doses. Common effects are restlessness, increased heart rate and blood pressure, insomnia, agitation, sweating, decreased appetite, jitteriness, headaches, and heart palpitations.

Ephedrine works mainly by increasing the activity of norepinephrine (aka noradrenaline). Caffeine antagonizes the adenosine receptors, thereby increasing norepinephrine, epinephrine, glutamate, dopamine, acetylcholine, and to a lesser extent, serotonin. Caffeine also inhibits the enzyme acetylcholinesterase, thereby increasing acetylcholine. Caffeine and ephedrine can have cross-tolerance. Don't take them together.

 

[Hiltoniano]

My bad bout the recommendations, but it was in the spirit of HR...

 

[Dread calm]

Both can be usefull, neither are fun!!

 

[shreddedlettuce]

I'm wondering which would work better as a pick-me-up towards the end of a night of raving. If it's past 4am, I usually don't like to drop again

Safest,simplest and best answer would be to take your first dose a few hours later.
And forget about the rest and just enjoy your roll, trip or whatever it is you're using.

 

[BeachBum4u]

Be super careful with ephedrine. In the past 5 years or so, there have been a few deaths of high school, college and pro football players from that stuff. It can be brutal. If I were you, I'd give it a try with a very small dose sometime when you're not ravin' and need a little pick-me-up and see how it goes. Those athletes died on the field during training (heart rate up already) which could be similar to being pumped up in MDMA at a rave, I suppose. Bottom-line is that it's some serious shit. Be safe dude and "live" to enjoy more drugs at a later date! Not a good enough reason to go "down for the count" this young in life.

 

[girl1]

"drink a monster like a normal person"
If I'm holding my water in one hand and my monster with the other, I won't have any hands left to dance with!

Thanks everyone for the advice. I guess I'll stick with caffeine