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I guess nail polish remover was a bit of an exaggeration :ROFLMAO: I may try the Lady Grey that Hippy suggested as the particular spice that gives it its unique flavor might be in lesser quantities in that variety. Maybe black licorice is the spice that comes to mind. Damn, Xorky.....now I have to google the mane of the spice.
It's oil of bergamot, which is a citrus fruit. And it tastes neither of nail polish nor in any way similar to liquorice. I think you need to see a doctor about your messed-up sense of taste & smell.
 
For those of you outside the US chai = Indian masala tea. I've never understood why in the US tea masala is referred to by the Russian word for tea.
'chai' is the Hindi word for tea and is derived from the Chinese 'cha'. In India you get street vendors selling milky spiced black tea and they're known as chaiwallahs.
 
It's oil of bergamot, which is a citrus fruit. And it tastes neither of nail polish nor in any way similar to liquorice. I think you need to see a doctor about your messed-up sense of taste & smell.
And I think you presume too much of how I think Earl Grey tea tastes to me and about the condition of my taste buds but I do thank you for your concern.

To each his own, eh?
 
Worst thing about the coffee for me is its physical properties, its consistency. Like a soapy extra membrane coating the mucous membrane. Eventually it causes a sort of dryness.

One of many little things that are easy to live with but actually unclean. Quitting it is one of many opportunities to improve this modern life by simple means.

Stuff like subsiding on grains or milk likely has similar, maybe worse, effects on mucous membranes. Not meaning to compare as such, just for reference.

Other than that i haven't noticed anything weird about my caffeine addiction. It keeps working as a drug, with some tolerance development.
 
Worst thing about the coffee for me is its physical properties, its consistency. Like a soapy extra membrane coating the mucous membrane. Eventually it causes a sort of dryness.

One of many little things that are easy to live with but actually unclean. Quitting it is one of many opportunities to improve this modern life by simple means.

Stuff like subsiding on grains or milk likely has similar, maybe worse, effects on mucous membranes. Not meaning to compare as such, just for reference.

Other than that i haven't noticed anything weird about my caffeine addiction. It keeps working as a drug, with some tolerance development.
yah I know what you mean.

I like it tho. I also like to chug anything down with coffee.
 
I'm on day 3 of caffeine withdrawal, and its no picnic.
Muscle aches, headaches, no energy.
I didnt even feel like getting out of bed this morning.

I was taking 100mg caffeine pills 3 times daily for over a year FYI

You should be at the peak or already past it, just hold on 🙏🏻

I actually am finally free again. From 2019 to recently I had been yo-yoing back and forth with coffee addiction. Thanks to working 7 days a week I just don’t have time anymore. (I only drink it on off days from work cuz it’s usually 2-3hrs followed by a crash.)

I don’t even crave it anymore, it’s nice.

-GC
 
You should be at the peak or already past it, just hold on 🙏🏻

I actually am finally free again. From 2019 to recently I had been yo-yoing back and forth with coffee addiction. Thanks to working 7 days a week I just don’t have time anymore. (I only drink it on off days from work cuz it’s usually 2-3hrs followed by a crash.)

I don’t even crave it anymore, it’s nice.

-GC
Weird thing for me coffee does absolutely nothing for me when I drink a cup of it.
But when I take it in a 100mg pill I feel great.
Taking it with L-theanine takes the jitters away too
 
i recently learned from an ADHD/ASD expert, some people on the spectrum self harm in very odd ways they themselves are not even aware of, and one high on the list is drinking coffee knowing full well you have anxiety and its extremely unlikely that it will give mental clarity and stimulation, as opposed to what really happens, which is high heart rate, high blood pressure, brain fog and worsened anxiety, overall decrease in quality of mental state.
Not to say people with ADHD or ASD dont get addicted to coffee, but the addiction mechanism isnt quite the same, but also, its important to recognize exactly what is going on, because if you just decide "ok, caffeine is probably causing some harm at this point, this probably means im getting addicted or using it too much, so ill stop" then you stop and dont notice how you switch to an entirely different mechanism of indirect self-harm.
Maybe next you set impossible timeframes for your daily plans, just thinking, ok, all i have to do is try hard and it will be fine, instead you dont and you dwell on it and your day is disrupted or you just spent 40 minutes standing in the living room because you couldnt decide if the texture of dirt under your feet would bother you enough to justify searching for your flipflops because you dont want to look for socks to instead wear shoes, all in the name of saving 2-3 minutes or precious effort.

Some people, like myself, have always determined when an addiction starts is when you begin to feel bad from some sort of over-indulgeance, not, are you dependent now, is there withdrawals or can you stop, but rather, does this make you feel unwell.
Its very likely ive never actually been addicted to anything before, but i have been unconsciously engaging in self sabotage using the things i enjoy, like drugs of all sorts, as an instrument. I dont hate myself, or feel like i should suffer, i dont identify with any of the usual self harm mentalities, actually im quite averse to that, i make a point to take care of myself, i want to live as long as possible, so it never even occured to me im abusing things to sabotage myself, against all logic and reason, for some totally incomprehensible irrational objective.

What finally got me to notice the pattern was, why have i been drinking energy drinks for my caffeine when they make me feel so bad, consecutively. I know its really unhealthy, and unless its once in a blue moon only really the first can ever nets effects better than just a plain cup of coffee or green tea. So why would i keep drinking it. i specifically also cant handle my meds amplified side effects on monster energy either for the entire day, but coffee, is safe after an hour or 2.
Then i decided there was a problem, so i stopped, and immediately began binging on a particular kind of chocolate that i like a lot, which ALSO happens to cross react with my ADHD meds, in very much the same way, theanine or whatever the stimulant is, combined with dexamphetamine, makes my heart rate skyrocket, plus i often feel unwell if i have even just more than 1 bar. im over 30, candy days are over, but i still went and did it over and over and over despite it barely being enjoyable.

The main problem then, before i spoke to council about this, was i tried moderation, still thinking this was addiction drawing me to whatever it was at the time i was doing. the frequency isnt really significant for self harm in this context, it was every single day i made choices that reduced my quality of life and ability to make decisions or think clearly.
Ill also note that even if i stopped taking my meds, i was still suffering from anxiety and depression so the caffeine still rarely helped me get through the day calmer or happier.
As for what is now being done, theres nothing helpful in there to share so i wont, sufficed to say, im currently still just sitting and waiting for results.

Anyway it was a crazy realization and just goes to show the value of seeing someone.
 
I have been caught in the whirlpool of caffeine addition.I am a high school student in China mainland now-if you don't know what it means,please imagine if you have to work for 15hr/d,6d per week.I am also a patient with depression and anxiety,being the cycle of insomnia an listlessness.But I must get up at6:00 every weekday,so I need to keep drinking coffee.What can I do?
Sorry to post these.I hope I didn't make grammatical mistake.
 
I have been caught in the whirlpool of caffeine addition.I am a high school student in China mainland now-if you don't know what it means,please imagine if you have to work for 15hr/d,6d per week.I am also a patient with depression and anxiety,being the cycle of insomnia an listlessness.But I must get up at6:00 every weekday,so I need to keep drinking coffee.What can I do?
Sorry to post these.I hope I didn't make grammatical mistake.
Have you tried DLPA??

 
Wanted to react to the one brought up the sugar combo addiction.
Besides if Coffee is bad, Sugar, Sweeteners.
Cow-milk or the fake Milk powder cup/ stick also is.

And both sugar and artificial sugar s are bad for gut flora.
And Stevia ? , doesn t combine with Coffee anyway. A exception.
I'd be SO much more chill if I didn't drink coffee lol.
When you have Raynoud like me, its triggerd by Coffee.
So stopping made morning a lot more pleasant.
Trembling hands, hot/ cold and sweats disappeared too.

And its not the Caffeine.Or sugar, as Matcha, strong with sugar is OK.
In Oat drink, mmm.
Mate/ Green/ Yellow/ White tea. Guarana same, different form.
Of Xanthine different effects then Coffee. All off em.

Only pure Caffeine, Coffee or Energy-drinks. Same Caffeine as Coffee,
cause this. Though the cans are sugar bombs too, disgusting.
 
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I have been caught in the whirlpool of caffeine addition.I am a high school student in China mainland now-if you don't know what it means,please imagine if you have to work for 15hr/d,6d per week.I am also a patient with depression and anxiety,being the cycle of insomnia an listlessness.But I must get up at6:00 every weekday,so I need to keep drinking coffee.What can I do?
Sorry to post these.I hope I didn't make grammatical mistake.
Seek a substitute, like Guarana 2 grams,Its strong and lasts long 4/6 hours.
Without influencing my ability to sleep. Add a few White tea s or Matcha s set

So trade the delivery form, Guarana is sold as pill/ capsule, not a extract.
In health/ supplement stores.
 
Seek a substitute, like Guarana 2 grams,Its strong and lasts long 4/6 hours.
Without influencing my ability to sleep. Add a few White tea s or Matcha s set

So trade the delivery form, Guarana is sold as pill/ capsule, not a extract.
In health/ supplement stores.
Does Guarana have withdrawal symptoms when you quit??
 
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Does Guarana have withdrawal symptoms when you quit??
Only Coffee seems to be Physically and/ or Mentally reinforcing.
Drinking it right now, again.
Matcha being 10x more expensive as the cheapest Coffee.
Should have opted for Guarana pills, way cheaper.

And i never witnessed WD s, took it the end of working day s.
Or when i drunk to much, unlike Coffee it does override drunkenness.
To a degree, not when your drunk stupid, then its too late.

But Guarana has no kick like Coffee, and no crash.
A gentle come down. Bit like the Methadon of Xantine s,
wonder if any form of Caffeine is for the general population addicting ?

Not for me, very reinforcing would fit better. For Coffee,
not Camelia Sinensis/ Mate/ Mate de Coca or Paulinia Cupana.
 
Have you tried DLPA??

I will try them.Thank you
Seek a substitute, like Guarana 2 grams,Its strong and lasts long 4/6 hours.
Without influencing my ability to sleep. Add a few White tea s or Matcha s set

So trade the delivery form, Guarana is sold as pill/ capsule, not a extract.
In health/ supplement stores.
I've bought it!Thanks!
 
I will try them.Thank you

I've bought it!Thanks!
Besides the long duration, it also has a slower come up !
But i loved em had before ever drinking Coffee.
As far as i remember almost any other Xanthine containing plant has that.
Besides Mate/ Ilex Paraguaraensis and fresh Cola Nut s. Afaik.

Had a few oral, a fresh nut well chewed, looked like little organ s pink inside.
Extremely astringent and a bit undescribable taste. Not like Cola softdrink.
They started working fast part absorbed sublingual, and like Guarana.
They had a cooling effect.

Did get high from Green tea a few occasion s, never knew that was possible ?
A floathing altered state and conception, very relaxing yet alert.
 
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quitting coffee was the dumbest thing i ever quit
Motivating, quitting Coffee don t alter cognition.
It s in your mind don t give in, a nice hot Chocolat,
or Matcha $$$ [the last is a Xanthine/ l-Theanine bomb]
Well earned. Your have not done anything dumb,

Just no more talks at the Coffee- machine. ☺️
Well at least that what i remember when i worked.
That machine the pump providing fuel.

I ll keep trying, next city i am hitting a supllement store.
Wait order some Guarana online and if cheap, Matcha too.
 
200mg caffeine pill every day.

Terrible fucking headaches if I go 24+ hours without a dose.

But I adore caffeine. It’s always dirty and rusty. Even with coffee. That’s what’s cool about it. It’s a really rough stimulant that’s very exacting. It’s like wake the fuck up. I’ve been so addicted to caffeine I could pass out on monsters. Drank a fuck ton of coffee in college. Drank coffee all day every day
 
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