BZP survey.

[samiam]

Here goes. Piperazines are the least researched class of drugs so I wanted to find out personal experiences. Maybe to submit to erowid. Use this as the guide...
1) What piperazine was it?
2) what the dosage was?
3) roughly what you weigh and how tall you are. Are you Male of Female (you can choose to answer or not. Just for stastistical purposes)
4) side-effects? If any.
5) Would you try the piperazine again?
6) did you mix the piperazine with any other substance (this includes Alcohol)
7) Anything you want to point out about the experience. i.e. duration, feeling, setting, etc.
I am open to hear anything abotu these. It's a very recent thing that they have been used recreationally so would like to have something for others to look at. Thanks. Check my profile and e-mail anonymouslt if you like or respond to this thread. Thank you all for sharing. I alreayd know Murple's distate for the stuff but want other's opinions.

 

[Spook]

1) BZP
2) dunno
3) 78kg; 1m77; M
4) terrible comedown
5) sure
6) no
7) i found the high to be quite nice. not as
nice as real speed but still ok

 

[PhreeX]

1) BZP
2) Did it a number of times, I find the best "average" dose to be about 150mg-250mg.. thats a wide range, yes, and it seems a bit much - but to get a decent speed buzz you seem to need that much..
3) 155lb, 70.4545 kilos, or a little more then the weight of 2 million doses of average grade heroin...
4) Horrible feelings of PURE AND TOTAL SHIT following the experience, and lord knows what this unknown shit is doing upstairs.. I definitly felt a number of brain cells die from this experience! Oh yeah, that metallic taste - not from the drain/drip, but the effects of the drug itself..
5) I killed a few grams over the course of a weekend, got all I wanted to from it, so no, I wouldn't mess with it anymore... definitly a good and inexpensive alternative for speed, but I think meth is probably safer - definitly with fewer negetive feelings durring and after...
6) Yeah, plenty of benzos for the comedown, and after I was fimilar with the effects of the BZP by itself, I added some heroin..
7) It's dirt cheap, it's legal, and you can make your investment back selling it to ravers as "pharmacutical meth"... I would be currious to see how it interacts with MDMA, but well, don't have the desire to try it.. if they ever find this shit safe, I will definitly revisit this with a syringe!
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# unzip ; strip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep

 

[xylo-]

BZP good.
Every other piperazine BAD! BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD
you can't begin to imagine how shitty this group of drugs is, other than BZP.
well...haven't tried methyl-BZP, that could be promising...

 

[SovietContin]

1) BZP in combination with TFMPP.
2) 200mgs BZP, 100mgs TFMPP
3) 125 pounds, male.
4) Other than being fidgety, nothing to much during the experience. The next day I couldn't figure out why I bothered waking up however. Comparable to being hit with an 18 wheel rig truck. Not to mention this feeling as if I had been poisoned that lasted about 2 days.
5) NO.
6) I followed the experience with 15mgs of Ambien that still didn't knock me out after 10 hours.
7) Suppossedly mixing the two substances should be similar to an MDMA experience. I found it to be more like psychedelic cocaine. Either way, it wasn't worth it. Infact I wish I hadn't.

 

[Aja909]

1) What piperazine was it? BZP & TFMPP
2) what the dosage was? don't know, ate 2 pills containing it (they had the "24K" markings on it)
3) roughly what you weigh and how tall you are. Are you Male of Female (you can choose to answer or not. Just for stastistical purposes) - 140lb. 6'3"
4) side-effects? If any. - HELLA! - couldn't sleep for 2 days made my hands numb and it felt like I was made out of metal
5) Would you try the piperazine again? NO
6) did you mix the piperazine with any other substance (this includes Alcohol) pot & K (moderate amounts)
7) Anything you want to point out about the experience. i.e. duration, feeling, setting, etc.
it fooled a lot of people into thinking they were rolling... I figured out I wasn't due to the fact it makes you feel all like you just ingested "chemicals" instead of a drug.. VERY chemical feling to it... after about 4 hours I figured that this asn't MDA nor any other MDxx substance.... and not speed either because I know how that feels.. I had sharp pains in my chest and very agitated.. the next few days it left me irritable and "confused"