buying some cycle shit in 2 weeks. open to suggestions

Guido I think I've already made the choice, I more than likely will be staying on indefinitly after this cycle...
I need to read up about it first though, just to be safe. I don't see the need for pct if you plan on staying true to lifting, staying on would be much more beneficial in pretty much every way (under these circumstances, noobs, please don't do this)
I like the idea of just being to throw whatever I want in whenever I want e.g a new oral attracts my attention, I can just jump on it...

Debating wether t250 e would fit the purpose better than t400 200 dec and 200 cyp... The t400 fluctuated my blood levels a bit last cycle with 1 weekly injection.
 
Try the Test 250 then. Sometimes you have to experiment to learn what works best.
 
I wouldn't mind finding t250 decanoate for cruising, would be pretty handy for once per week injects. Gonna try out test e bi weekly injects this cycle, and possibly eq if my source has it
 
nolys said:
I wouldn't mind finding t250 decanoate for cruising, would be pretty handy for once per week injects. Gonna try out test e bi weekly injects this cycle, and possibly eq if my source has it
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I can get it but it's 300mg/ml blend that contains 75mg test isocaproate, 75mg test cypionate, 75mg test decanoate, and 75mg test enanthate. One my source restocks I plan on running it to give it a whirl and see if I like it better than Test E.

I get along fine with once a week injections of Test E. Test Cypionate if I'm not mistaken has a slightly longer half life so it might work for once a week injects as opposed to once a week injects of Test E.
 
Yeah, I'm starting to wonder why test e is so universal, when you got almost a whole other day from cypionate.

speaking of half lives, Guido, have you tried TNE?
 
Animal Mother said:
Yeah, I'm starting to wonder why test e is so universal, when you got almost a whole other day from cypionate.

speaking of half lives, Guido, have you tried TNE?
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I have not but I know it has to be injected anywhere from 2-3 times a day because it has no half life like other forms of Testosterone. Once it enters the bloodstream and upon doing so it is effective immediately and then dissipates quickly. TNE suspended in oil is a good choice over TNE in a water suspension because the water based TNE is extremely painful to inject.

It isn't practical for a blast or cruise in the traditional sense but can be a nice addition if one is looking for some extra strength and aggression before a workout.
 
I read lean's review on it ( he used water though) and he said that the ensuing pump was insane. I've heard that a few times.

Of course you wouldn't use it as your primary source of test. Maybe once a day on top if your foundation of test. I'm going to try it with an oral like dbol or sdrol as a preworkout next blast, and make a log about it.

speaking of blast and cruise, when can we expect your blog about it? It looks like a lot of us are steering that route. I wasn't planning to initially, but my aesthetic goals have not been achieved yet, so why make it harder on myself?
 
It makes one hell of a preworkout. People take it before fights and before powerlifts.

I would say a week. I have been planning on guiding the forum to that route. I wanted to introduce things in baby steps though and establish a few principles of gh15 before laying it down and having a bunch of faggots and drug users blasting and cruising for a beach body. The thing is if you want to be a bodybuilder, be it Men's Physique, Classic Division, 212 Class or Pro Level blasting and cruising is needed to maintain gains and keep growing.

Glad to hear you are on gh15 bro and on board with bringing the truth to bodybuilding and advancing the culture in a positive and responsible light.
 
-Guido- said:
I get along fine with once a week injections of Test E. Test Cypionate if I'm not mistaken has a slightly longer half life so it might work for once a week injects as opposed to once a week injects of Test E.
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Yep.. Cypionate has a heavier ester weight than Enanthate, therefore less Testosterone but only 70mg as opposed to 72mg, so bugger-all.. 1 X week injection is supposed to be fine with Test E. Peak and trough fluctuations will be slightly bigger but not out of therapeutic range/It isn't going to make much difference from pinning twice a week... In saying, I've always preferred 2 X wk..
 
Okay i have a bunch of cycles under my belt, and here are my recommendations:

~run test higher than deca. I recommend 1gram test, 600mg deca
~dbol gets amazing at 75mg. start with your 30mg and try to taper up to 75mg within 5 weeks, side effects willing. The BEST oral combo is 50dbol + 100ADROL. you could use this for 5 weeks instead of the dbol solo
~Definitely run superdrol at the end. Sdrol is simply the best steroid in my opinion. keep it to the last 4 weeks at 30-40 mg. also take prilosec with it because it causes major stomach issues.

Through the cycle run 1mg letro, 10mg nolva, .3mg prami every other day.


*No soliciting or offering help to give sources, read the fucking rules or get the fuck out*
 
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BenzoWhore said:
Okay i have a bunch of cycles under my belt, and here are my recommendations:

~run test higher than deca. I recommend 1gram test, 600mg deca
~dbol gets amazing at 75mg. start with your 30mg and try to taper up to 75mg within 5 weeks, side effects willing. The BEST oral combo is 50dbol + 100ADROL. you could use this for 5 weeks instead of the dbol solo
~Definitely run superdrol at the end. Sdrol is simply the best steroid in my opinion. keep it to the last 4 weeks at 30-40 mg. also take prilosec with it because it causes major stomach issues.

Through the cycle run 1mg letro, 10mg nolva, .3mg prami every other day.


*No soliciting or offering help to give sources, read the fucking rules or get the fuck out*
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I'm just back from injury, I am basically starting from scratch again I've lost all my weight...
And your reccomending a gram of test? 600mg deca? And 75mg of dbol?
Or you want me to run 100mg adrol and 50mg dbol? Sorry no I value my liver and my muscles/joints to a degree...
And I don't think my first run of sdrol should be 40mg...

Pretty stupid fucking advice.
 
ahh yeah I second that comment there Nolys this fuck all for advice, unless your goal is to bloat up, have a limp dick and be that gorgeous shade of yellow from jaundice.

Little FYI here i have gone to 75mg of dbol and fankly the sides are not worth the increase from 50 which tends to be the roof for me
 
Neoprimitive said:
ahh yeah I second that comment there Nolys this fuck all for advice, unless your goal is to bloat up, have a limp dick and be that gorgeous shade of yellow from jaundice.

Little FYI here i have gone to 75mg of dbol and fankly the sides are not worth the increase from 50 which tends to be the roof for me
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My sweet spot for dbol is in the 30-40mg range... I go 40+ and I start getting too pumped to train, my shins start aching and whatnot... Any higher I think is a waste, personally anyway, I respond very well to dbol and don't retain very much water weirdly, mostly just keepable mass.

I would love to do an oral only of dbol... Just to see what would happen. I suppose I will when I start to blast/cruise, ill throw 40mg dbol in on a cruise and maybe do a lot of short oral onlys in a row (obviously with breaks for my liver) to compare how I react to each. I'm mainly interested in msten, tbol, sdrol, anadrol (when I get to less than 9%)
 
To be honest, I think that the hepatoxicity might be overplayed. I'd like to do a just over the suggested range on orals and get some blood work done.

Like maybe run 20mg sdrol and 50mg dbol for 3 weeks, then get the ole liver checked out.

or run dbol for an extended period of time at 75mg. Beyond the recommended 4 week limit.
 
50mg a day is perfect for me i like 50mg a day, with 30mg being prior to training and the remaining spaced through out the day. Killer pump, and I respond well to it my self, though i retain water but frankly once i dry out i keep a good bit of the mass and strength. The beginning of the summer i ran TNE and DBOL mix injectable preworkout out 5 days a week loved it ( 50mg of each) gotta say shit was proper and i felt like a monster in the gym.
 
nolys said:
My sweet spot for dbol is in the 30-40mg range... I go 40+ and I start getting too pumped to train, my shins start aching and whatnot... Any higher I think is a waste, personally anyway, I respond very well to dbol and don't retain very much water weirdly, mostly just keepable mass.

I would love to do an oral only of dbol... Just to see what would happen. I suppose I will when I start to blast/cruise, ill throw 40mg dbol in on a cruise and maybe do a lot of short oral onlys in a row (obviously with breaks for my liver) to compare how I react to each. I'm mainly interested in msten, tbol, sdrol, anadrol (when I get to less than 9%)
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There is nothing wrong with using orals for a few weeks while you are on a cruise. A lot of people do it with favorable results.
 
Neoprimitive,

Did you try the TNE separately from Dbol ever? I'm excited about running some on my next blast. It's at 100mg/ml, so I was thinking about just doing pretty much that pre-workout. Did you feel like you could handle more than 50mg or was that a good dosage. I know that dosages vary from person to person, but you're probably the closest to my body weight in here, so Hopefully I can gain some insight from you on it.
 
Yeah tried it once by its self though it was an aqueous solution ( water based shit stings like a mother fucker ) at 100mg, a ml. That was nice, def would not go higher then that. But just be prepared it will put water weight on, so keep an AI on hand but like 30 days into it ( .5ml morning and evening) as a jump start to a cycle i was seeing some serious size and strength. But if you are going to try it as a pre work out shot, 50mg is proper 100mg will give you more but hell the sides are more manageable at 50mg. Try to get an oil base, easier injection.
 
Yeah, I believe that they usually refer to the water based as Test Suspension, and the oil based as TNE.
Of course, technically, those names aren't specific to either, but that is what they are generally called.
I'll be getting some TNE. I think that I"ll try 100mg pre workout for a few days, and see how I feel about it. I'll also try 50mg in the morning, and 50mg pre workout.
 
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