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Harm Reduction Bupropion - started abusing it. Need something safer.

I don't recommend Ritalin. Compared to amphetamines its half life is short and redosing will become a problem and will have you doing it to avoid the crash or trying to keep its effect. If you are more of a cocaine type of person then yeah I would say definitely Ritalin.
You sound like you would be more the type of person who is more vulnerable to becoming a stimulant addict. With that being said your better off being addicted to traditional amphetamines verses cocaine like stimulants (ritalin and even bupropion) because the road will be much smoother being amphetamine dependent versus Ritalin dependent, just trust me on that.
 
Hi OP,

Newcomer to this thread.

I've never tried bupropion but iirc it is a cathinone skeleton? I used a lot of synthetic methacathinone back in the day and also natural cathinone in plant form so I have experienced similar.

You sound like you're in a terrible situation. Your addiction is putting you under severe mental and emotional strain. You have endangered yourself and others with your behaviour. It also sounds like the drug is starting to affect your (previously good) physical health.

It seems like you are at a point where either one of two things is going to happen as this situation is not sustainable.

1) you get yourself off this drug and stay off it and then get on with your life

Or

2) you continue doing what you are doing until you experience either psychosis, mental breakdown or potentially significant health problems or harm yourself or others.

So what do you want to do?

If the answer is 1 then I think you have two choices...

1) you set out a taper plan and stick to it gradually reducing (perhaps more rapidly at start) your dose until you stop. During this time you are gonna have to be disciplined and think about this and how you are going to fill the hole this substance leaves. Exercise is good. Another drug not so good. Plan your taper out, write the days down eg over a month and the doses you will take on these days.

2) if you are unable to maintain enough self control to taper yourself then I think you need to go to a doc and come clean about everything so they can give you the professional help which you so badly need.

If your answer to the first question is 2 then I wish you good luck and I hope that for your sake nothing too disastrous happens. Your mental and physical health are at stake here as well as potentially your liberty.

Cathinones while stimulating can be dissociating too. They can even cause psychosis and violence. Try and take control before something terrible happens. No court anywhere will treat you with the sympathy and understanding you will get here. This is a really dangerous situation you're in.

I wish you the best of luck whatever you decide. If I can help in any way PM me.

BB
 
You can try combination of 150mg bupropion and 45 mg dextrometorfan taken once daily for tree days, on day number four u can take two doses of 150bupropion + 45dxm per day and it should do some very evident and possitive mind alteration. Auvelity is antidepressant that combines these two drugs in one pill and it is one of the possitively surprising new meds.
 
qazw said:
If you can't get off the seizure drug you should absolutely get on ritalin instead. It'll fuck you up in other ways and maybe even turn you into a degenerate porn addict but at least it won't give you a seizure. Once you get your foot in the door to the shrink world getting ritalin/amphetamine is really easy. Even if you don't have ADHD the symptoms are braindead easy to fake.
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Yeah. This was my thought. Been off it for three days again and it’s killing me again tonight. It’s all I can think about and my body is like, “fuck you! What are you fucking doing??? I need this shit!”

I threw all the bupropion away. I don’t have any anymore because I’m sick of this shit.

I do have ANOTHER apt tomorrow to try to get the Ritalin. I’d rather get that then fuck myself up on something worse, or drink again. The only benefit of this shit is that I don’t drink and it no where gets me in any trouble like alcohol does.
 
opiatekrzy said:
I don't recommend Ritalin. Compared to amphetamines its half life is short and redosing will become a problem and will have you doing it to avoid the crash or trying to keep its effect. If you are more of a cocaine type of person then yeah I would say definitely Ritalin.
You sound like you would be more the type of person who is more vulnerable to becoming a stimulant addict. With that being said your better off being addicted to traditional amphetamines verses cocaine like stimulants (ritalin and even bupropion) because the road will be much smoother being amphetamine dependent versus Ritalin dependent, just trust me on that.
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And how does one get these amphetamines you speak of? Street drugs, or is there a reliable safer way? Prescription amphetamines? I’m too paranoid to buy drugs that could be laced with fentanyl. I know too many ppl who sadly OD’d and died unintentionally just trying to get high on something poisoned with that shit.
 
WellTram said:
You can try combination of 150mg bupropion and 45 mg dextrometorfan taken once daily for tree days, on day number four u can take two doses of 150bupropion + 45dxm per day and it should do some very evident and possitive mind alteration. Auvelity is antidepressant that combines these two drugs in one pill and it is one of the possitively surprising new meds.
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That sounds fun, but I through all my bupropion away. DXM is the shit they put in Robitussin?
 
BadBoy377 said:
Hi OP,

Newcomer to this thread.

I've never tried bupropion but iirc it is a cathinone skeleton? I used a lot of synthetic methacathinone back in the day and also natural cathinone in plant form so I have experienced similar.

You sound like you're in a terrible situation. Your addiction is putting you under severe mental and emotional strain. You have endangered yourself and others with your behaviour. It also sounds like the drug is starting to affect your (previously good) physical health.

It seems like you are at a point where either one of two things is going to happen as this situation is not sustainable.

1) you get yourself off this drug and stay off it and then get on with your life

Or

2) you continue doing what you are doing until you experience either psychosis, mental breakdown or potentially significant health problems or harm yourself or others.

So what do you want to do?

If the answer is 1 then I think you have two choices...

1) you set out a taper plan and stick to it gradually reducing (perhaps more rapidly at start) your dose until you stop. During this time you are gonna have to be disciplined and think about this and how you are going to fill the hole this substance leaves. Exercise is good. Another drug not so good. Plan your taper out, write the days down eg over a month and the doses you will take on these days.

2) if you are unable to maintain enough self control to taper yourself then I think you need to go to a doc and come clean about everything so they can give you the professional help which you so badly need.

If your answer to the first question is 2 then I wish you good luck and I hope that for your sake nothing too disastrous happens. Your mental and physical health are at stake here as well as potentially your liberty.

Cathinones while stimulating can be dissociating too. They can even cause psychosis and violence. Try and take control before something terrible happens. No court anywhere will treat you with the sympathy and understanding you will get here. This is a really dangerous situation you're in.

I wish you the best of luck whatever you decide. If I can help in any way PM me.

BB
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I tried tapering. The moment I am left alone I crush it up and snort it. I threw it all away trying to stop. Now I’m in withdrawal and my body is fucking hating me right now. I’ve been able to quit nicotine and alcohol, so hoping I can get through this. Cigs were easier than alcohol. This is an entirely different level of addiction. Worse is than both of those combined.
 
lostsoulforgood said:
Fucking trying man. I got 5 kids and a wife who rely on me. A five year old who cries whenever I travel for work. He’d be devastated if I never came home. Ppl need me. I need me. I know I can do this.
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Ab-sa-fucking-lootly.

Take a screenshot of that post you just wrote, if you think it would help, and read it every time you have an urge to do something that has a chance to jeopardize that (your kids future, wives happiness, your own health that they all depend on).
 
lostsoulforgood said:
And how does one get these amphetamines you speak of? Street drugs, or is there a reliable safer way? Prescription amphetamines? I’m too paranoid to buy drugs that could be laced with fentanyl. I know too many ppl who sadly OD’d and died unintentionally just trying to get high on something poisoned with that shit.
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90% of all amphetamines abused come from a prescription by a Doctor for diagnosis such as ADHD, obesity, narcolepsy. They are extremely easy to get prescribed by a Doctor in the United States that is. They were pushed on me by a Doctor at age 14, I'm 40 now
 
lostsoulforgood said:
I tried tapering. The moment I am left alone I crush it up and snort it. I threw it all away trying to stop. Now I’m in withdrawal and my body is fucking hating me right now. I’ve been able to quit nicotine and alcohol, so hoping I can get through this. Cigs were easier than alcohol. This is an entirely different level of addiction. Worse is than both of those combined.
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Well done, you're doing the right thing.
lostsoulforgood said:
Fucking trying man. I got 5 kids and a wife who rely on me. A five year old who cries whenever I travel for work. He’d be devastated if I never came home. Ppl need me. I need me. I know I can do this.
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Well there's your motivation. When it hurts, when you're tempted, just remember this.

Really wishing you the best of luck and success in your recovery.

BB
 
lostsoulforgood said:
That sounds fun, but I through all my bupropion away. DXM is the shit they put in Robitussin?
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Yes. Fast acting SNRi, sigma receptor agonist and NMDA antagonist + it's metabolite is powerful NMDA antagonist. By combination of DXM + cyp2d6 inhibitor like bupropion, u instantly raise your monoamine levels and sigma receptor activation enhance brain neurothropic factor - this is needed for brain to repair damaged neuronal pathways or to create new ones. NMDA antagonist is just a little bonus - it dulls pain and if u let dxm to metabolize into dextrorfan it's potent as ketamine but u want that monoaminergic and sigma receptor activating effect of dxm. Bupropion is ideal cyp2d6 imhibitor and it further adds slight dopamine elevation and moderate noradrenaline elevation.
 
Haven't caught up on the full thread, but I've used bupropion excessively for about 6 years at this point, took a break when 600mg a day was inducing an arrythmia. I keep it to sub-450mg a day, or if intranasal then sub-250mg a day, and I have yet to run into issues with it but I'm also ~100kg and pretty stimulant hardy.
 
lostsoulforgood said:
I’ve been taking Bupropion for 6 months and recently been taking more and more everyday along with 6 cups of coffee because it enhances the effects. Everyone everywhere says this shit causes seizures, so I need to stop but I fucking can’t. I’m worried if I do worse things will happen. Anyway. Someone tell me what else I can take to feel better and still function well on? I need some help here. I don’t want to have a fucking seizure but I really like the stimulant and trance like effects it’s having in me. Generally happy a lot. I am up to 750mg today. It seems like 1000mg is where I see people having seizures and really bad effects. Help me out people.
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A friend of mine crashed his car when he accidently took a double dose of 300XL in the morning. The way he described it to me, he just wasn't able to press the brake pedal. He saw his car running into a slowed down traffic, perfectly realizing what was happening, but like in a bad dream, not being able to react. To me that sounds very much like a seizure. As soon as he crashed, he came out of it.
Why are you wasting this one-of-a-kind wonderful medication, which unlike any other antidepressant (tricyclic or SSRI) allows you to take any recreational drugs, have a higher libido than a guy vying fir the same girl (If that floats your boat) and is taken by powerful people who are not depressed as a nootropic to give them an edge over their competition in their line of high-paid work?
 
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lostsoulforgood said:
I take it for “depression” although I’m not really depressed. I started it to help stop drinking along with naltrexone. Now 6 months later I’m chasing that euphoric feeling I used to get when taking it and drinking coffee.
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How much Naltrexone do you take? Do you take the full 50mg pill or do you take LDN? (Low Dose Naltrexone).
 
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streaM Freak said:
@lostsoulforgood SSRIs feel way different than this one. I took Wellbutrin/buproprion, I abused it too, would snort 1500mg a night at the worst of it.

It's sort of like a mild ADHD medication off label, if you have ADHD id consider getting evaluated maybe? What do you think. These days there are even "non stimulant" stimulants like Strattera, this one works on norepinephrine too, maybe speak to the doctor
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Except that Strattera is milder (especially for someone who's been exceeding the max dose) and, instead of turning you into a superman in bed, gives you a retroactive ejaculation.
 
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