Bupe buprenorphine THAT strong of a blocker?

[Gabagod]

After finally tapering down to 2 mg of my prescribed Suboxone in the hopes of an occasional full-agoinst opioid experience, I acquired 10 or so M30 pills made with either fentanyl and/or isotonitazene and later some black tar heroin straight from the dark web. After skipping 2mg daily dose for a day or two smoking/snorting the m30 pills had little effect, went through all 10 without ever catching a real nod. A few days later with only 1 2mg bupe dose in between, the black tar arrives, (first time trying "real" heroin) I smoke a few points in a glass rose pipe and get big clouds of foul vinegary tasting smoke, but only a mild opiate high at best. Having experieince with IV"ing bupe, I prepare a small shot of the black tar, and all though this effect is stronger, overall I'm still quite disappointed. Sure I have faint albeit nice warm glow in my body right now, I would have never expected to have this high of a tolerance? Doubt the stuff I received was bunk as I did my research. To give context I was taking a whopping 16 mg of bupe per day as prescribed for about a year before tapering down to 2 mg in a couple months rather painlessly. Still, IV'ing 2 mg of bupe after not dosing for 3 or 4 days was way more of a rush and more enjoayable then both the m30 pills and black tar, despite being only a partial agonist. Weird. Perhaps having been on a such a high daily dose for so long raised my tolerance for opiates way more than I thought it. I know despite being only a partial agonist mg for mg bupe is among one of the most potent opioids. Thoughts?

 

[paranoid android]

Bupe completely blocked my friends dilaudid so i see no reason why it wouldnt block fent and heroin as well

 

[Coffeeshroom]

Bupe is miracle drug for me and helps me a lot more then methadone to stay away from H, and the main reason is the amount of I need to kick the bupe off first and then being able to enjoy the H and that just makes it to expensive for regular thing.

also I only once tried to iv bupe and it was 1mg and felt nothing and this when my daily intake was 500mcg taken intranasal. So was expecting something but nada. The 500mcg dose intranasal gave me more of a rush and decent energy boost. Just my 2c

 

[meeer]

After finally tapering down to 2 mg of my prescribed Suboxone in the hopes of an occasional full-agoinst opioid experience, I acquired 10 or so M30 pills made with either fentanyl and/or isotonitazene and later some black tar heroin straight from the dark web. After skipping 2mg daily dose for a day or two smoking/snorting the m30 pills had little effect, went through all 10 without ever catching a real nod. A few days later with only 1 2mg bupe dose in between, the black tar arrives, (first time trying "real" heroin) I smoke a few points in a glass rose pipe and get big clouds of foul vinegary tasting smoke, but only a mild opiate high at best. Having experieince with IV"ing bupe, I prepare a small shot of the black tar, and all though this effect is stronger, overall I'm still quite disappointed. Sure I have faint albeit nice warm glow in my body right now, I would have never expected to have this high of a tolerance? Doubt the stuff I received was bunk as I did my research. To give context I was taking a whopping 16 mg of bupe per day as prescribed for about a year before tapering down to 2 mg in a couple months rather painlessly. Still, IV'ing 2 mg of bupe after not dosing for 3 or 4 days was way more of a rush and more enjoayable then both the m30 pills and black tar, despite being only a partial agonist. Weird. Perhaps having been on a such a high daily dose for so long raised my tolerance for opiates way more than I thought it. I know despite being only a partial agonist mg for mg bupe is among one of the most potent opioids. Thoughts?

Buprenorphine is 40x stronger than morphine, some say 25-50x or even 100x stronger. It is also long acting and based on how long you have taken it and dosages, it is safe to assume you have a saturation on your receptors even if you don't get a real withdrawal from ceasing use.