Hi, i've done 2 weeks off methadone, 12 days off heroin and crack, and 5 days on subutex. Was on methadone for 15 years and was supposed to be going in rehab last Monday 25th Oct but i tried doing it all too quick dropping from 50ml to 0 in 4 weeks and relapsed when i got down to 20ml, started injecting heroin and crack nearly every day for 2 weeks until i turned up to rehab already 6 days clear off meth so that shit had proper set in. I believed once i was at rehab i could handle the rattle but they turned me down because i had heroin, crack, benzo's etc in my pee. I was only able to handle 3 days without anything, it was agony so i went back to drug treatment and they put me on Espranor a subutex replacement that dissolves in seconds but has same ingredient. The plan with the doctor is to stabilize for a month on 12mg till early Jan, then reduce so i can go back to rehab mid-late Feb. Possible without being in agony?
Last time i did a withdrawal from methadone was 1996 in prison from 90ml, i was on a lot of heroin as well which would've made it worse but i'd only been on meth 7-8 months and i can remember still having symptoms 6 months later, aches and hot flushes. Did a lot of heroin rattles throughout the 90s and early 2000s in jail but none compared to the meth, only went back on it in 04 because i'd relapsed and had a choice of robbing or meth. A 12 step prison rehab 01-03 changed my thinking! Now at 43 i don't know how i believed i could handle an home detox from the meth after 15 years especially when i was using on top.
What i'm asking is there anyone that can tell me what the rattle from buprenorphine is like? When i say rattle i don't mean cold turkey i mean tapering off it down to 2mg. I'll only be on it long enough for the meth rattle to stop then start reducing by 2mg a week. I've got rehab funding and a bed but there's no inpatient detox funding. It was easy when younger i went to prison and didn't have a choice no medication was provided so had to do my rip but out here i'm getting about 30 texts a day from white n brown dealers, i'm surprised i've still got a laptop to type on to be honest!
Nearly 3 decades on opiates and life is miserable as shit, my life was better when i was on a prison merry go round all my old mates were there and after a month of recuperation it was like a youth club! After 15 years of methadone and frequent snowball life has dwindled into pure isolation, i hate other users now, got sick of the two faced backstabbin thieving bastards, so i need off this shite for sanity's sake. Just can't find any decent solid info, most say it's a lot easier to come off buprenorphine than methadone then i read a study saying it can be just as bad. I've not slept for 10 days the pain in my legs won't allow them to stay still, so tired that when i tried to stand up the pain eased for 2 seconds because of the movement and i passed out and smacked my head on the wall at the side of my bed lol. That's after 2 days on 12mg but i know over the next week it will start to subside i just don't want to go back to this at home, i'd rather go out commit a crime and get remanded so i don't have a choice!
I know i'm going to find out because i'm ticking on this path but I have to prepare myself better than just laying in bed all day after taking drugs, ignoring everything and thinking rehab is a cure all for addiction and crappy thinking/behaviour!
Feels like i've just been on a crack rant but i am straight headed just don't have anyone to talk to about this crap!
Thanks for any reply
Last time i did a withdrawal from methadone was 1996 in prison from 90ml, i was on a lot of heroin as well which would've made it worse but i'd only been on meth 7-8 months and i can remember still having symptoms 6 months later, aches and hot flushes. Did a lot of heroin rattles throughout the 90s and early 2000s in jail but none compared to the meth, only went back on it in 04 because i'd relapsed and had a choice of robbing or meth. A 12 step prison rehab 01-03 changed my thinking! Now at 43 i don't know how i believed i could handle an home detox from the meth after 15 years especially when i was using on top.
What i'm asking is there anyone that can tell me what the rattle from buprenorphine is like? When i say rattle i don't mean cold turkey i mean tapering off it down to 2mg. I'll only be on it long enough for the meth rattle to stop then start reducing by 2mg a week. I've got rehab funding and a bed but there's no inpatient detox funding. It was easy when younger i went to prison and didn't have a choice no medication was provided so had to do my rip but out here i'm getting about 30 texts a day from white n brown dealers, i'm surprised i've still got a laptop to type on to be honest!
Nearly 3 decades on opiates and life is miserable as shit, my life was better when i was on a prison merry go round all my old mates were there and after a month of recuperation it was like a youth club! After 15 years of methadone and frequent snowball life has dwindled into pure isolation, i hate other users now, got sick of the two faced backstabbin thieving bastards, so i need off this shite for sanity's sake. Just can't find any decent solid info, most say it's a lot easier to come off buprenorphine than methadone then i read a study saying it can be just as bad. I've not slept for 10 days the pain in my legs won't allow them to stay still, so tired that when i tried to stand up the pain eased for 2 seconds because of the movement and i passed out and smacked my head on the wall at the side of my bed lol. That's after 2 days on 12mg but i know over the next week it will start to subside i just don't want to go back to this at home, i'd rather go out commit a crime and get remanded so i don't have a choice!
I know i'm going to find out because i'm ticking on this path but I have to prepare myself better than just laying in bed all day after taking drugs, ignoring everything and thinking rehab is a cure all for addiction and crappy thinking/behaviour!
Feels like i've just been on a crack rant but i am straight headed just don't have anyone to talk to about this crap!
Thanks for any reply
