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Buprenophine -- Experienced with opiates -- Very Potent

jaxon

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Buprenophine is very Potent

ill start by sayin i have done opiates before, both opium, morphine, different sorts of codeine and other synthetic opiates like ´bupe´ and i must say morphine is my definite favourite since the feeling of well beeing is way higher on this than on most others. never done heroin but more about that later on..

Last evening i did 1,5 mgs of bupreonphine (Subutex) wich i crushed and snorted at about 16.00.
after about 45 min. it kicked in and i felt the usual buzzin in my head and i felt my stomach starting to react and trying to tell me stuff. i still felt no need to lay down and chill out. at the time i was in a friends room and we watched a short flick (Surplus ;) and i slowly slowly began to feel my face pulling out from the head and moving by itself towards the computerscreen at wich i was looking. now this was a kind of funny feeling but it also bothered me a little since my friend didnt know i was under the influence.. so to speak ;)

the movie continued for about an hour and by the end i felt my whole body shaking, like beeing casted back and forth by gigantic waves comin and goin in ultrarapid. like one minute i felt nothing, the other i had problems breathing, or not in a painfull way but still i had to breath very deep and decidefull. i also noticed i had a hard time focusing during the periods where these waves was all over me, my eyes flickered like the times i have been on E and this bothered me too since i had problems looking my friend in the eyes when we talked. later on we moved in to hes livingroom and sat down in a couch where i started to get heavily dosed. i complained on not having slept the night before and started to close my eyes for longer and longer periods cause i felt such good by doin so..

i later went back home and while walking i realised that as long as i kept moving, all tiredness went away and i just felt that buzzing feeling in my body, also the feeling of wellbeeing was much more present. so when i came home i sat down by the computer for maybe ten minutes or so, trying to compose some beats, but eventhough i was kind of inspired and had stuff in my head i wanted to get out i couldent bring myself to continue. all i could think was "oh fuck it would be great to lye down for a while, oh it would be so nice to lye down..." and so i got to bed. but eventhough it was almost one oclock i didnt fell asleep before three, i just lay there scratching myself allover the body and having the sweetest most far out thoughts in my head. it felt as my brain was hyperactive but at the same time in a state of coma.

finally i fell asleep and had a good night sleep. woke up around 10 and still was kind of fucked up.

now subutex, is ment to treat opiateaddicts with coming down and what im wondering is if someone who has tryed Heroin knows if the symptoms as pretty much like the ones on Subutex or if they are completly different.

thanks for replyes.
 
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Buprenorphine is a combination opiate agonist/antagonist. I believe that it has a high affinity for the Kappa opioid receptor , which explains its somewhat psychotropic effects. Basically, Heroin (which has a high affinity for the Mu receptor) is much more euphoric w/o as much "reality bending" (for lack of a better term).
 
propynyl: that was something new, but i dont have any close friends that do smack either so that kind of explains why i know so little about it. but you reply sure gave me that little itchy feeling when wanting to do something new. what more can you say about the heroin high? i know many peope describes the morphine high very different, some like it alot, some not so much. but folks on tv and stuff often explain smack as the ultimate top of the mountain. what can you (or anyone else for that matter) say about this ?
 
I don't think heroin is all that great. Well, it is. But it isn't better (IMO) than oxy or demerol. Reminds me of 2C-B, in that it is so overrated. My favorite opiate will always be opium-pod tea.
 
Thanks for the post.. INteresting.

Some good info in this thread too.
 
Propynyl said:
I respectfully disagree. Heroin became my drug of choice about a year ago, and I liked it so much, I became VERY adicted and am now on Bup maintenance.

Heroin is a nice subtle high. Dont expect it to be like "1000 orgasms" or anything. At first, it produces this warm, fuzzy, feeling like everything is going to be "ok." But after a few months of use, that goes away, and it is more about feeling "normal." If you start using H, which I HIGHLY adivse against, enjoy that warm euphoria while it lasts, because after much use, it goes away. And by then, you're in a world of shit.

It isn't the most intense high. It isn't like the rush you get from speed or X, which leaves MANY people dissapointed the first few times using it. But after a while, you just grow to love the feelings that "everything is going to be ok."


This is what I think it is like.
-propynyl

I have dabbled twice with H, and then got my nose into oxy, this all happened about 3 years ago. H (boy is what we call it) was a nice smooth and very gentle opiate ride, and was waaaaay more gentle than I expected. So what bad things could come of something so gentle?

So the boy got short to find, I went through the 2 packs with a friend in a 4 day weekend, I do not recall how much we had, but we each spent about $100 each and stayed high all weekend, we snorted and smoked, but never injected.

After this, all we could find was oxy, this was even better (in my eyes) than boy. It gives you an incredible rush at first then followed by a typical opiate high. THEN - the crave to go right back up, this is where things get sketchy.

But just as you stated, when you first start, everything seems great, and the warm empathic feelings you get every time really grab you into the high. After a few weeks (or even days for me, 3 or more) of continuous use, you feel as though you are just chasing that first high, at the same time trying to feel 'normal' again.

W/O it the world turns against you, and you soon fall victim to easy addiction. It only takes a matter of a few days of staying high.

I get lucky once in a while and I get an 80 of OC. I have noticed the first dose is always nice, but every one after that feels like a craving, even this much further down the road (3 years). So I have fun for a day, and leave the other half of the 80 with my girl to 'hide' from me, then I play again 3-5 days later when I don't feel that craving anymore. I also notice in myself and even my good friend, that we are very disconnected and distant from everybody for these 3-5 days. So that really doesn't help in any respect, like I said it feels as though the world is against you.

Just like Propynyl stated earlier, myself and I'm sure many others will advise STRONGLY against using these higher potency opiates. They lead to personal disaster. I have babbled long enough, and am still fighting the opiate battle with this stupid hydrocodone I have been taking for rotator cup-shoulder pain. And even with hydrocodone, I go through the same shit as with oxy, but on a lesser scale.

So in conclusion, it is not worth it at all if you respect yourself, know your limits first and do some research.

Much love to all, and please take this information seriously.
 
why is that i hear everyone say that you are chasing that first hit....i get high EVERYTIME,feel the same euphoria each time ,somtimes i need more ,somtimes less....somtimes have to go without opiates for a couple days and i withdrawlmildly ,but i dont ever feel like im chasing some great high that was only there ONCE....
 
Ive taken 3 8Mg Suboxone and puked my brains out, over the next 2 days i was to sick to go to work, so i just laid in my bed puken! it was bad!! tho it was stupid of me to eat 24Mf of it, but they tasted so good, i thaught it was like a 5Mg methadone.. I will do more research next time.
 
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