brotherly love - need opinions

[Bent]

off this topic but on the PVD/Trade/Future topic...
Future Ent. is presenting Trade
Kabuki is presenting PVD - kabuki is one arm of Hardware - so its the usual FE/Hardware link up as per Welcome/Two Tribes/etc
Hope that helps
[This message has been edited by Bent (edited 09 May 2000).]

 

[ami]

aaw johnboy..... DONT BAN ME!!!!!! haha
yes, I'm 17 and i'm in yr12 and i roll... But i have now limited myself to only roll in the holidays... once or twice.... I try my best to stick to it...
and i have another exam tomorrow! but i wont fail this time, i promise

I've attempted to stop until after the hsc, but i just couldnt do it... the temptation! So maybe leave it til after highschool... i mean, there's like 4 months for u to try EVERYTHING u can possibly get...

 

[Hamlet]

aha!!! so in a weird and twisted way I was right...I don't understand what you're saying, but I'll go with you Bent.

 

[auswaverider]

Bent,
How ya going mate? Just wanted to add my bits in about the delicate bro situation (i have a fair bit to write so bail now if yer not in the mood for a long post!). I am 27 and my youngest brother is 17. I took my first pill a few years back now when i was at uni so am a bit of an old school boy. Anyway my youngest bro was caning the pot when 13 (Unknown to me until recently) and got into the pills and whizz when he was 16. He was definitely too young and hadn't had the life experience to really evaluate what he was doing. He got addicted to pot but has now given that up. Anyway we kinda didn't speak that often as I lived elsewhere etc etc. About a year ago I rang him whilst I was rolling and turns out he was at home with his mates doing the same. We had a wicked chat and really got to know each other. He no longer hides his drug use from me and I feel that I am at least now there for him if he needs me, rather than cut off as before. Anyway I realise this is different from your situation but the fact is....your bro will more than likely be in a situation with his mates where they will be taking drugs and there will be an urge to do so on his behalf...even if you tell him not too. So what i am saying is be open about it from the start....get him on the dancesafe site and make him read the slideshow so he knows whats going on....educate him that only one or two pills is necessary...get him on the EZ testing etc etc......I have done this with my bro and he is now a lot more responsible about his drug use...especially pills. Tell him about yer own experiences and that it may affect his mental state somewhat. Also maybe suggest for that reason doing while still at school isn't really a good idea, but if he is gonna then be safe about it. Maybe suggest after exam celebrations would be a good time. I reckon it would be good to point out the addictive nature of so called lesser evils like speed....many many people seem to underestimate its addictive potential!
Anyway man I am sure ya know what yer doing, but basically what I am saying is keep the relationship so that even if he does take it against your will he can tell you about it. Maybe even suggest you would like to be there for his first pill...seeing as its always the best

Kay later
Aus

 

[lilmonkey]

I'm 16, and my first roll was with my oldest sister, who's 21 (I was 16 at the time).
if you say to your brother, "don't do it, wait until vce is over, etc." he's likely to just do it anyway

the only thing you can really do is just support whatever decision he *does* make, and give him the pros and cons about it all. educate him. say KNOW to drugs, all that stuff

I like to think of myself as a bit of a smart girl, and obviously my sister does as well. my mum also knew I was going to roll, etc., but she trusted my sister to look after me, and she trusted *me* too... I think that's important. for me it's a *very* sporadic thing, and when I do I'm always with my sister, 'cos I feel safest around her than with my other silly but lovable raver munchkins

it's probably not the best to encourage your brother, but just let him know that you're there for him, whatever decision he does make...

 

[happy doofer]

We've all had times when we lose the delicate balance between partying and other things that should take priority.
If you explain some of your negative feelings to your brother about him rolling, this will make him less inclined to try anything for a while.
The truth is though that we all have responsibilities, no matter what age we are.
I failed over half of my subjects at uni and almost got fired from my job last year because I couldn't keep it all together. But I had a huge wake up call and it is all ok now.
Make sure your brother understands that this is not something that is easy to only do once, for the pure fact that it is so much fun.
My sister is 17 and has rolled with me before. But she decided the scene wasn't for her. Maybe your brother will do that but from the sounds this is unlikely!
Good Luck!

 

[Smurf]

I just think that getting good marks in Year 12 is one thing that can set you up for life. That doesnt make it right...its just how society is geared.
Compared to school, Uni is a breeze, and schedules can be geared so that no class on Mondays, and stacked on say Tuesday to Thursday's. So there is heaps of time to recover etc.
Also, the potential to get ripped off at 17 is pretty large. I didnt fancy having to negotiate with drug dealers at that age.
I know what I was like with certain drinks when at school...I just won't touch them know. Imagine if you had a bad experience with E at 17 and vowed never to try one again...just a thought.
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Just because I'm a pervert
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[rikidozan]

well im 16 and ive only rolled once. it hasn't done anything bad to me or changed me or whatever. i think all the other crap i have had has fucked me up more. oh and dont worry about me failing my exams, i'm doing all the easy subjects so they wont be that hard.
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you never see them in the ghetto! (BITCHES WITH DICKS)

 

[flutter]

Bent, i have a younger bro (he's now 18) who wanted me to take him to a party last year but i kept avoiding it because he was doing his HSC. He has already tried pills before but i don't think he has dicovered their true potential. He still hasn't been to a party. I was going 2 take him 2 Utopia but i'm kind of scared because he has a very addictive personality + i don't want 2 be responsible if pills + parties rule his life. I 've been through a bad time with drugs lately (funny how it seemed like a good time at the time???) and i don't want him to end up in the same situation as me.
I started pilling/tripping at the start of yr 12 and after that my studies went downhill. Not 2 mention losing it really badly on a trip at my year 12 afterparty not even 2 weeks before my HSC was to begin. So i wasn't really in the best frame of mind yet when they started.
Ultimatley our little brothers + sisters are there own selves (pretty scary to think of them as adults) + they may end up resenting us if we try to control them. Bent if your brother really wants to pill and you say no i am sure he will be able to acces them if he really wants them.
Good luck.