Lol, not spontaneously. If there is noone around who knows that shit, noone is gonna take it... Simple as that.Like they are going to spontaneously inform themselves at a rave.
Like I said, no other drugs will be involved! If I get vasoconstrictions, I'll go for nitrates, I'm absofuckinglutely sure the medics will have nitrates around! And well, for other scenarios there will be antipsychotics and benzodiazepines and opiates...And like those medics are going to know all about any possible contraindications between bromo-dragonfly and other drugs. They're going to know all about it...uh hum.
Well, for you it might not be, but I have told you a couple of reasons why it is. Besides, I guess you call it rave to make it seem more dangerous, but it's a freaking Goa event in the middle of nowhere with lots of nature around, the only think that's raving about it is the music. I will have lots of friends around, I won't have to worry about school, work or whatever shit (besides the chem), I will have medics around, I will have benzos, antipsychotics and nitrates around, there will be other experienced trippers, why the fuck are you worried about it being an outdoor event?!Yeah but a rave is not a wise setting to experiment with an unresearched chemical like this one.
Yeah, well, I reconsidered, what are you trying to say?But you had to ask.
I will have access to a phone, it's gonna be right in my pocket, and 15000 other phones will be around as well. And that guy who lost contact with reality took like 1mg, didn't he?! I'm gonna try a low dose, dude. Besides... I have lost contact with reality before on psychedelics and loved it... :DSome one did, and someone else reported a loss of contact with reality. And even the person who said it would be good for an outdoor event wrote: "For the record, SWIM took it in an apartment, with a sober assistant, and ready access to a phone."
Source? To me this sounds like a pharmacological impossibility. Plain bullshit. I have strong doubts that either an antipsychotic like Thorazine, or a benzodiazepine like Temazepam or Lorazepam could possibly have any effects like that. If they had, I would most likely know about it. Then again, I have not studied pharmacology and have been surprised before by weird chemical interactions, so thanks for the warning. I'm still going to ignore it unless I will hear more reliable information on this topic.I don't remember the name atm but I know at least one Benzo that is strongly increasing and potentiating the effects of DOB.
Like I said, no other drugs will be involved! If I get vasoconstrictions, I'll go for nitrates, I'm absofuckinglutely sure the medics will have nitrates around! And well, for other scenarios there will be antipsychotics and benzodiazepines and opiates...
why the fuck are you worried about it being an outdoor event?!
Yeah, well, I reconsidered, what are you trying to say?
One more thing... If it is anything like what I am expecting, it will be a typical phenethylamine type of thing. Euphoric, speedy etc.
You should rather warn me of smoking that DPT freebase while I'm there which is probably going to happen
I have had my fair share of experiences with psychedelics (somewhere around 100 trips not counting dissociatives) and which each one came greater respect for those substances!
To me this sounds like a pharmacological impossibility. Plain bullshit. I have strong doubts that either an antipsychotic like Thorazine, or a benzodiazepine like Temazepam or Lorazepam could possibly have any effects like that. If they had, I would most likely know about it. Then again, I have not studied pharmacology and have been surprised before by weird chemical interactions, so thanks for the warning. I'm still going to ignore it unless I will hear more reliable information on this topic.
Uuuuh, I really don't remember writing that... It's kinda odd, you know, me saying something like that since I in fact do know "shit about pharmacology, toxicology, or drug interactions". You know what quotation marks are meant for, don't you?feign said:listen to what you're saying. "I don't know shit about pharmacology, toxicology, or drug interactions, but that sounds impossible to me."
To me this sounds like a pharmacological impossibility. Plain bullshit. I have strong doubts that either an antipsychotic like Thorazine, or a benzodiazepine like Temazepam or Lorazepam could possibly have any effects like that. If they had, I would most likely know about it. Then again, I have not studied pharmacology and have been surprised before by weird chemical interactions, so thanks for the warning. I'm still going to ignore it unless I will hear more reliable information on this topic.
There is always a certain risk involved in ingesting psychoactive substances, especially new ones like BDFL. There are ways to reduce the harm that is posed by these substances to a minimum. I have known and used these methods for years and I'm pretty sure I would have some serious problems if I hadn't done it (physically or mentally).
Please. Btw, do some reading about BDFL and you might know why I have certain expectations.
Then again, I have not studied pharmacology and have been surprised before by weird chemical interactions
Oh, and you can reduce the harm of any drug, starting with things like choosing the right dosage. Also think about set and setting, drug source etc.
Still, would someone please explain why exactly the voov is not an appropriate setting for ingesting the substance?
Now that's the spirit morninggloryseed! What happened to good ol science....We learn through mistakes and will never get anywhere without people who can make decisions like I am going to make one.
crOOk said:Btw, there are other sources of information besides bluelight.
Totally agree with that. I assume crOOk has read enough to make his decision, so even if we find it too dangerous and risky we have to respect his choice.
Blowmonkey said:
Yeah, I mean, if a quadruplegic wants to dip his fingers in a vial of 2C-T-21 and comes on Bluelight and tells us about this, we should be happy and respect his choice..
fastandbulbous said:but taking other drugs on top in such an enviroment is akin to an unspoken death wish and should NEVER be encouraged
Blowmonkey said:
Moab, operation web tryp doesn't ring a bell..? Just, nevermind..
Blowmonkey[/i] Yeah said:As far it doesn't affects other people, absolutely yes. None of us has the right to judge others choices if those choices have been meditated.
fastandbulbous said:Serpent:
Cr00k's desire to dose himself with said dragonfly is his choice entirely, regardless of how foolhardy we consider it, but don't go telling him about taking other drugs in smaller quantities in combination with it would be safe even if he reduces the dose. Did you see my post on how things can turn out totally different to how you expect. Taking a pill of 4-MTA and then a small dose of say meth or MDA would land you in an A&E (ER for US readers) dept with a hypertensive crisis and possible serotonin syndrome. We have no idea which metabolic enzymes this compound might inhibit; therefore no idea of what effects other drugs might have on the body. Taking it at an outdoor event is taking risks (but that's, in the final analysis, his choice), but taking other drugs on top in such an enviroment is akin to an unspoken death wish and should NEVER be encouraged. There's a protocol for such things, and for these compounds, I've tried to devise one that is fairly safe, but even then I'm taking risks