Bromo-Dragonfly (?) - First Time - A Mild Experience

[djfriendly]

Someone needs to get this heart/sunshine blotter tested, it is showing up in all sorts of places, and no one is sure what it is, its the same blotter that ive been dropping weekly for the last couple months, i wrote a trip report on it a while back.

I agree with you 100%. Ditto the Max Headroom blotters.

 

[DeeBohDamn]

I picked mine up for $20 single hit, $30 double. Single hit was yellow backed, double was navy-blue backed. Mind u, everything is more expensive in Miami, so these prices may as well be in chinese yen for some of you... but yea, thats what theyre going for around here.

 

[Mean Girl]

since bromo dragonfly is still relatively new to a lot of people, i think it can't hurt at all to have varied reports on it's effects under the belt. some lab testing would be lovely for verification, but at the same time, it's silly to assume people are lying as well.

 

[gloggawogga]

^^^

No one is assuming or accusing people of lying. The question is whether the assumptions (i.e. wild-ass guesses) people are making about the identity of the material are just little bit premature. I really don't think harm reduction is being served when people buy drugs off the street and just blindly guess the identity of drug based on purely subjective effects. There is absolutely no compelling evidence whatsoever to believe this material is bromodragonfly. AFAIK there is not one sample of a blotter sold on the street in the US that has ever been shown to be bromodragonfly. Its just pure wild ass guessing. All of warnings at the shroomery about bromodragonfly being sold on blotters as LSD are pure wild ass guessing and rumor based on not one bit of concrete analytical data.

The title of this report should be changed to "unknown substance, sold as LSD". Because thats all we know about what it is. Otherwise this thread is just spreading misinformation.

 

[Mean Girl]

keep your hat on tripper i wasn't pointing at anyone, you and i are thinking exactly the same thing. incidentally, i fail to see why the importance of bromo dragonfly analysis is so much more significant than any other drug at the moment. some chap dropping a pill might not have dropped mdma at all and got something else entirely different, but that's no reason to mostly bombard their report with "you don't know if you got real mdma". same for some kid handed a baggie assumed to be ketamine.

this is similar to those bermuda triangle pills that were going around, hyperbole left right and centre about what it was, what it wasn't, and after one tested for simply lsd, the backlash was still "well, i don't think this is what that is"

i'll put a question mark in the title. if ANYONE can get one of these tested accurately, it would be nice to put all this to bed.

and let's all keep smiling eh?

 

[gloggawogga]

i fail to see why the importance of bromo dragonfly analysis is so much more significant than any other drug at the moment. some chap dropping a pill might not have dropped mdma at all and got something else entirely different, but that's no reason to mostly bombard their report with "you don't know if you got real mdma".

Your analogy doesn't apply because this was sold as LSD not bromodragonfly, and he's just guessing its bromodragonfly, a drug he has never used. Somebody doesn't buy an MDMA tablet, take it, guess out of the blue that it was 2c-b because it didn't seem like MDMA and then post a trip report called "2c-b - First Time". That would be a little ridiculous. And this is even more ridiculous because there isn't one shred of laboratory or other evidence that any blotters being sold as LSD in the US contain any bromodragonfly. These people are making a wild-ass guess based on subjective effects and turning it into hype and rumor. This rumor about bromodragonfly on LSD blotters started at the shroomery, and it was entirely based on second guessing subjective effects, no laboratory analysis.

i'll put a question mark in the title.

Why not make the title "DOB ?", or "DOC ?", "DOI ?"? Becuause its just as likely and it would be just as good of a wild-ass guess. Or, why not just be honest and say "unknown substance, sold as LSD". Because thats the truth as best we know it, not some baseless guess that its bromodragonfly because of a stupid rumor at the shroomery.

and let's all keep smiling eh?

Sorry, MG. But I just can't smile in face of all the misinformation and complete BS that is being spread about bromodragonfly. Harm reduction isn't being served here.

 

[DeeBohDamn]

Jeeze man, had I known there would be so much conflict over my simple speculation that I think it MAY HAVE been BrDFLY I never woulda posted the damn report. I AM NOT MAKING ANY OUTRAGEOUS CLAIMS. OK, maybe I didnt give the thread the exactly suitable title... so what???? I am trying to find out if anyone else has encoutered this stamp, and if they might know what it is. I figured my chances of people responding to the thread would be better if I threw a hypothesis out there to get things going. I AM NOT A CHEMIST BY ANY MEANS, I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE, IT WAS ALL SPECUALTION. So would everyone just calm the hell down??? Who cares if Im right or wrong, frankly, Id love to be proven wrong so I could know exactly what the hell I took.

And Glogg, how exactly is this not aiding in harm reduction??? It is speading information about an unknown stamp that I have been told people are seeing more and more frequently... Im sharing my experience and offering up some ideas. How is this not helpful to someone who may have the stamp, and is doing some background research on it? How is sharing your thoughts (GUESSES) and experinces detrimental to harm reduction???? Gimme a break man, thats what this whole website is about... I never said it def. was bromo, I just offered up my best guess. If that was wrong, then Ill stop posting immediatly.

Everyone just take a chill pill, stop stressing over it so much. This is not a battle of who is right and wrong, this is a collective discussion to share, compair, and offer ideas. Lets keep things friendly ladies and gents, we are all here to help eachother.

 

[Synto]

Anyone wanna give me some accurate info on how to go about getting some of these lab tested? If so, I might be able to oblige.

 

[gloggawogga]

And Glogg, how exactly is this not aiding in harm reduction??? It is speading information about an unknown stamp that I have been told people are seeing more and more frequently...

You aren't spreading information. You're spreading misinformation. You are perpetuating a completely unfounded rumor.

How is sharing your thoughts (GUESSES) and experinces detrimental to harm reduction????

Making unfounded guesses about the identity of a chemical can lead to serious harm, even kill people. Thats not harm reduction.

This is not a battle of who is right and wrong, this is a collective discussion to share, compair, and offer ideas. Lets keep things friendly ladies and gents, we are all here to help eachother.

So no matter how misinformative and dangerous those ideas are they're still valid ideas because its all just ideas and nothing is ever right or wrong? Sorry, but harm reduction is very much about fact vs. fiction, right vs. wrong., etc. etc.

Synto...you will likely need to find a chemist who has access to gc/ms equipment.

 

[DeeBohDamn]

Listen dude, if anyone took my word to be law, then its their fault, not mine. Im not spreading 'misinformation' cuz I never claimed to be right. I never stated that I was beyond any matter of a doubt right, I left the topic open for discussion and guesses. If u read thru it all, ull see that I was mearly trying to see if:
(1)anyone had encountered these same stamps (which Ive found out people have)
(2) if they experienced the same effects (some have, some havent, but there were some consistant effects for everyone)
(3) what they were told it was when they bought it (everyone seems to be buying it thinking its LSD)
(4) if anyone might have any clues as to what it may be based on the report I gave (some speculate a weak DOB, some say possibly 5-Meo-AMT, others say possibly BrDFLY)

ONCE AGAIN, I am not trying to spread misinformation. I AM ON A QUEST FOR KNOWLEGE. WTF is so wrong with me trying to found out what I took by posting a trip report? Once again... change the title if it means that much to you... call it 'suspected Fake acid' or 'stamp sold as acid' or 'wierd trip: what is this?' or 'weak DOB?'... I dont really care if u change the title, if it means that much to you.
Just let it be known IT COULD NEVER BE HARMFUL FOR SOMEONE TO SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCE AND HYPOTHESIS
What one chooses to do with my hypothesis is their decision, not mine, therefore, I still dont see how I am in the wrong.
This is not misinformation, it is a quest for knowlege... I dont see why that is so difficult to understand.

Now despite people whinning the whole time over the title of the thread, Ive gained some good info, and I would now agree that it was probably a weak DOB. LIKE I SAID, I WAS NOT STATING FACTS, I WAS LOOKING FOR SUGGESTIONS. The people who were kind enough to offer HELPFUL responses brought some new information to light for me, and have been exactly that, helpfull.

Lock the thread, I dont care, Im pretty much done with it...

And BTW, your welcome for having me take the time to do some reaserch, write a report, revise my report, interview other people who have taken it, post follow up information, and all the while still continue to be bashed on for putting 'bromo-dragonfly' in the title of my thread... Maybe yall should spend a little less time trying to prove yourselves right, and a little more time being appreciative of the efforts put forth by the poster. This seems to be a common problem amongst all the drug information forums, not only just here.

It like your mother always said, if you dont have anything nice to say, keep it to yourself.
Im tierd of getting flammed on for putting forth on honest effort. So just bite ur tounge, and make the world a happier place, eh?

 

[gloggawogga]

I left the topic open for discussion and guesses.

Making guesses makes for nothing but misinformation. This is the whole problem. You can't guess what a substance is based on its subjective effects, especially when you've never tried a verified sample of that substance before. That's how the unsubstantiated rumors about bromodragonfly developed at the shroomery and elsewhere. One guy makes a guess, the next guy trusts him and thinks it real. You said you trust what they say in the shroomery? Then you ought to concerned about cancer and DNA damage that bromodragonfly will do becuase according to their unscientific wild ass guesses, thats what it will do.

If you want to know what your substance is, get it tested by chemist. Making guesses is of no value whatsoever, and will lead to rumors that misinform people.

Red this thread. They all guessed. Most thought it was 2c-something. They got it tested, It was lsd. All there guessing was for nothing, just like yours is, except to make rumors. If you want to know what your substance is, get it tested by chemist. Guessing is BS.

I AM ON A QUEST FOR KNOWLEGE. WTF is so wrong with me trying to found out what I took by posting a trip report?

Get it tested by a chemist. Having a bunch of strangers on the internet guess what it is isn't knowledge, and it isn't going to figure out what you took.