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jerry21

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Hey guys I'm from nsw but I'll be in Brisbane for a couple weeks as of the end of the month. I will be hoping to score a few times. I was just looking to find out what type of heroin you guys generally get and the average purity.

not looking for sources just general info.

Any info at all is appreciated.
 
I've never really gotten into the H scene up here, prohibitively expensive in my opinion, so not sure about quality but from what I've heard from people who have it just comes down to who you know and even then can vary quite a bit. Not sure on the most prevalent type, thought it was #4 but I could be mistaken.
 
Coolios thanks mate, I've got a mate up there who used to use but he's now 4 months sober so I don't really wanna drag him into it...
I'll just figure it out myself I guess...
 
From my knowledge of Australian heroin in general, as well as the few first hand reports I have heard of using heroin in brisbane or the Gold Coast suggest that the predominant (only?) form of heroin is #4. I could not comment on the scene up there much further than that, have seen it suggested that a small open air scene exists although I have no factual knowledge of it existing like I do in Sydney and Melbourne.

Government documents I am too lazy/half pissed to look up now could probably indicate average purity of heroin in QLD as opposed to other states, if you are from an area of NSW where heroin is prevalent then my guess is you would be lucky for a street punt in brisbane to rival its potency, but that is a guess and also to an extent luck of the draw anyway.
 
I have a drug study hidden here somewhere that had interviews with users of various drug users in QLD who commented on their use and the scene. I'll see if I can dig them out realquick...
 
OK, here we go. These figures are for 2010 but lets assume there are no major fluctuations.

Most used form in QLD (almost all of those surveyed were from Brisbane I believe) was what they describe as 'heroin powder', or #4, and 'heroin rock' or what I believe is #3. Around 54% of those surveyed said the heroin rock was what they had used most over the preceding six months, around 47% claimed they mainly used heroin powder.

I won't give the prices that were reported, but they have stayed steady over the past few years according to the data. Most people said the quality was medium or low (30% saying medium, 45% low) with only 11% saying it fluctuates and 46% saying that quality seemed to be staying stable. Most of those surveyed believe it's availability was stable, and the majority of users were purchasing from a dealer rather then through friends or acquaintances.

Hope that helps, jerry21! These studies are pretty interesting, I'm glad I had an excuse to look through them again. :)

Is there injecting rooms in Brisbane?? Just a matter of being curious... Can't see from google.
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No, unfortunately. If you search in AusDD for 'Brisbane Injecting Room' (link - DM), you'll see I attended an event discussing this issue last year. There has been some moves made by lobby groups to encourage such a thing, nothing major yet though.
 
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There is no injecting room in Brisbane, IIRC it was a matter of recent public debate but I do not believe there are any immediate plans to implment an injecting room in Brisbane unfortunately.

Also Mr B, I don't think #3 heroin exists in Australia at all. As far as I know #3 heroin is actually heroin designed for smoking that is cut with quinine and caffeine and pressed into very small, single deal sized rocks. It is both impractical and unhealthy to inject #3 heroin, despite it being of generally high purity, due to the cuts used to make #4 heroin optimal for smoking. I have read that this form of heroin is really only available in certain South East Asian countries anymore, the main ones springing to mind are Malaysia and Singapore, perhaps Indonesia. The only form of heroin I have ever used is #4 and 80-90% of it came as a rock, however I don't believe whether you get rock or powder is enough on its own to assume potency.
 
There is definitley a scene (not sure how big) in BNE in 2007 as when I was in rehab there were quite a few heroin users from Bris and Goldy.

When I was there also around '06-'07 I didn't know anyone jerry21 and scored of some guy I asked who first got me some grey nurse morphine pills, then introduced me to a guy with Heroin white powder. The gear I think probably was nice china 3 or 4 but if it was rock it had been crushed and cut to fuck cause I used .2 with a tiny habit and wasn't anhywhere near as good value as the Morph pills, so I didn't buy anymore.

I wouldn't recommend scoring like this as you have a high chance of someone trying to rip you, but I was with someone and we didn't hand any money over until we saw the stuff and I made the guy wait while I had a shot in case he tried to sell me bunk gear.
 
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There is no injecting room in Brisbane, IIRC it was a matter of recent public debate but I do not believe there are any immediate plans to implment an injecting room in Brisbane unfortunately.

Also Mr B, I don't think #3 heroin exists in Australia at all. As far as I know #3 heroin is actually heroin designed for smoking that is cut with quinine and caffeine and pressed into very small, single deal sized rocks. It is both impractical and unhealthy to inject #3 heroinu.
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just a few points; my understanding is that quinine is present in #4 heroin. In fact I would argue that quinine was present in far greater quantities with the dope one was getting in the late 90s. The rush from that dope was wild and consistent with the fact with the effects of quinine. also if you have a look at the thread I just posted there is a possibility that quinine in its interaction with something in the user is responsible for death as opposed to the blanket claim that it was an "overdose".

I can attest to this, nearly every single deal I've ever purchased has tasted quite bitter. One could be mistaken in believing this implies its pure but far from it. As I've read pure heroin has barely any taste whatsoever.

also i'm australian and have seen #3 heroin. Your right though its not as common as #4 but its around.

lastly do you have any material that talks about the dangers of injecting quinine?
 
jerry21 said:
Is there injecting rooms in Brisbane?? Just a matter of being curious... Can't see from google.
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No, there isn't one as of yet. But some smart cookie has started an e-petition on the topic which can be seen on the Queensland Government e petition website.
 
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just a few points; my understanding is that quinine is present in #4 heroin. In fact I would argue that quinine was present in far greater quantities with the dope one was getting in the late 90s. The rush from that dope was wild and consistent with the fact with the effects of quinine. also if you have a look at the thread I just posted there is a possibility that quinine in its interaction with something in the user is responsible for death as opposed to the blanket claim that it was an "overdose".

I can attest to this, nearly every single deal I've ever purchased has tasted quite bitter. One could be mistaken in believing this implies its pure but far from it. As I've read pure heroin has barely any taste whatsoever.

also i'm australian and have seen #3 heroin. Your right though its not as common as #4 but its around.

lastly do you have any material that talks about the dangers of injecting quinine?
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Quinine can be present in any heroin really if someone wants to mix it in, I do believe quinine is a relatively common cut for heroin in general and perhaps I should have been more specific. I understand #3 heroin to be #4 heroin that is cut by the manufacturer with a specific ratio of caffeine and quinine to make it optimal for chasing the dragon while maintaining a relatively high purity (around 50% ) making it a sought after drug amongst those who favour smoking their dope, but since it is not particularly healthy to inject and in the South East Asian countries where its more common its not uncommon to get #4 heroin well above 50% pure it is not particularly sought after by IDU. I thought this stuff only existed in select parts of South East Asia these days, but I am really not in the heroin scene even though I use it every now and then.

To anyone who has used, or believes to have used #3 heroin, what exactly do you understand the difference between #3 and #4 to be and how did you determine it was #3?

Sorry man but I can't say I have any material on hand that assesses the dangers of quinine injection.
 
^^ I always thought if you had white or beige rock it was either china #3 or #4 (the #4 being the stronger shit) I am no expert so correct me if I am wrong....
 
What's all this talk about #3 and #4 issued heroin?

I don't get it, I don't get the appeal of jabbing a needle in to my beloved veins. Who would want heroin? Old people who are dying deserve it, not the average junkie who is completely recognizable by his/her clothing. Not them. They deserve counseling, and to enjoy life sober, i.e. hanging out with mates/going to the GC on the weekend/going clubbing together sounds a lot more fun than staying at home, or street, injecting heroin. Fuck that! We need an injecting room in the Valley, to any DRUGARM people who monitor this forum.

Bronson, over and out.
 
U know where in South West Sydney almost all Heroin comes from. Problem is by the time it makes its way up there its stepped on so many times. Then again like mentioned above it comes down to who u know. U might end up getting some of the sydney Heroin that is more potent than someone who gets it here as its been stomped on way too many times. I guess it comes down to how much its been cut with and luck of the draw. Ull prob find something decent if u find the right people though.
 
Charles Bronson said:
What's all this talk about #3 and #4 issued heroin?

I don't get it, I don't get the appeal of jabbing a needle in to my beloved veins. Who would want heroin? Old people who are dying deserve it, not the average junkie who is completely recognizable by his/her clothing. Not them. They deserve counseling, and to enjoy life sober, i.e. hanging out with mates/going to the GC on the weekend/going clubbing together sounds a lot more fun than staying at home, or street, injecting heroin. Fuck that! We need an injecting room in the Valley, to any DRUGARM people who monitor this forum.

Bronson, over and out.
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Man how ignorant do you wanna be? You can IV plenty of drugs (meth, cocaine, ketamine, to name but a few), just like you can take heroin nasally, smoke it, plug it, shit you can eat it if you have enough and you want to. I don't think there is an average heroin addict, and its pretty unfair to stereotype them all as some derro cunts who have something majorly wrong with them, all addictions are equal, one isn't more morally acceptable than the other. Its the actions of the individual that determine how good of a person they are, there are some people who will steal so they can buy alcohol or weed just like there are heroin addicts who will go sick until they can pay for their own shit.

Some people find heroin quite a social drug and its pointless (and incorrect imo) to categorise all heroin use as sitting at home or in some alley way shooting up. You should drop your bullshit drug elitism, its fucked enough we get looked down upon by the rest of society without dividing into sub groups and trashing on eachother too.
 
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