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Television Breaking Bad

He built a remote control, belt-fed turret and invented an entirely new chemical formula for meth... you think he can't take the time to make a packet of sugar look right? 8)

I think he did it very easily, the question was how did he do it. I'm sure it wasn't difficult, but the discussion was the manner in which he did it. You're right though. Let's not discuss any aspects of the show at all. The show is over. Close thread immediately so no one could post anything else. There's nothing else to say. Show's over.
 
He built a remote control, belt-fed turret and invented an entirely new chemical formula for meth... you think he can't take the time to make a packet of sugar look right? 8)

He's shown prowess with electronics as you saw when he built the bomb to kill Gus. He also had the manual for the m60.

Any claims of a 'new way to cook meth without methlamine' is total BS. He just wanted Jack to meet with him.
 
I think he did it very easily, the question was how did he do it. I'm sure it wasn't difficult, but the discussion was the manner in which he did it. You're right though. Let's not discuss any aspects of the show at all. The show is over. Close thread immediately so no one could post anything else. There's nothing else to say. Show's over.
I think you're correct in that pouring over the precise technical details of how Walt achieved his ends over a period of more than a month summarized into a couple hours of TV is not really worth debating. And while I can sort of detect sarcasm in your suggestion to immediately close the thread, I still feel I should point out that there are evergreen topics the show deals with that are much more worthy of our time than continuity or which female lead we'd most like to get our dicks wet with.
 
Well yeah, but how does one seal a packet like that?

I heard Peter Gould and I believe Tom Schnauz on NPR last night. Terry Gross specifically asked them how Walt inserted the ricin into the Stevia packet and neither of them had an answer. They basically said they didn't know, which I found kind of funny. It happened off screen and Walt certainly has the skills to pull it off, so I guess it doesn't really matter how exactly he did it.
 
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I heard Peter Gould and I believe Tom Schnauz on NPR last night. Terry Gross specifically asked them how Walt inserted the ricin into the Stevia packet and neither of them had an answer. They basically said they didn't know, which I found kind of funny. It happened off screen and Walt certainly has the skills to pull it off, so I guess it doesn't really matter how exactly he did it.

Sure it doesn't matter, but it kind of flies in the face of the promoted writing process of "hashing everything out to the nth degree over and over until it's decided to be perfect by a committee of masters." It's mildly amusing that they had no way to fully explain the murder weapon. Eliminating the possibility of choosing any other packet was easy enough, and I think that what Carl Landover said is pretty spot on:
"Maybe if Lydia had thoroughly investigated it then she would have caught on, but she was always seems a bit jumpy and uptight, so when she sees Walt everything is kind of a blur for her."

On a different note: all those critical reviewers claiming to not be caught up in the emotion of the moment, and actually bitching that the final episode had a different feel than before, and that everything went smoothly for Walt, seem to be missing vital aspects of the character of Walt and the nature of the episode in general. He was a man who was constantly underestimated, and, indeed, most likely the smartest guy in most rooms he occupies/chose to occupy. So while he might have looked like a pathetic sad sack begging for a game of cards with the bail bondsmen from Jackie Brown, he had plenty of time and relative freedom to plot his ultimate revenge, which to be honest, was simply finding a way to kill a group of white trash and one uptight business woman...not to mention a barrel of money to do it with.

No doubt about it, though, the scene in the car where he seems to be praying to a higher power marks a definite change in who we knew Walt to be. Who knows what happened there, but, if the ultimate man of science was hell-bent on experiencing as much of life as possible before he died, what could be a bigger adrenaline rush of uncertainty than leaving it up to God?
Also, I've definitely pounded the inside of a car window in the middle of winter and had that snow fall just like that in one big sheet. I AM HEISENBERG!

About that one New Yorker bitch, it would seem that they hold up a picture of their logo in front of their writers as the attitude to aspire to. I did like the idea of Walt actually freezing to death, and the rest of the episode is a DMT dream, but she seemed to insist on believing that in order to enjoy/accept the episode, which is a little weird.
 
Walt knew exactly when Lydia would be there, he knew the table she always sits at, and he knew she drank the same exact thing every time. Why is it so hard to imagine that walt bought a box of stevia and swapped one of the packs contents with the ricin? This is the guy that has masterminded several other much more complicated incidents,ran a meth empire, helped create a multi billion dollar company with elliot and gretchen, destroyed police evidence without leaving the van, outwitted his dea brother in law for two years...etc. He opened a pack of stevia and found a way to put it back together then arrived at the cafe before todd and lydia got there. Am i missing something? He used Lydias biggest flaw against her, just like he did with jesse and everyone else.
 
Did anyone else notice all the-Hive.ws references throughout the show? e.g. "Bit by a Dead Bee" and Bees on top of the methylamine jugs.
 
Did anyone else notice all the-Hive.ws references throughout the show? e.g. "Bit by a Dead Bee" and Bees on top of the methylamine jugs.

It's been in the back of my mind since I saw those barrels, but I hadn't become conscious of it until now. If true, that would be pretty interesting, even though they made up a lot of the chemistry in the series.
 
I think he did it very easily, the question was how did he do it. I'm sure it wasn't difficult, but the discussion was the manner in which he did it. You're right though. Let's not discuss any aspects of the show at all. The show is over. Close thread immediately so no one could post anything else. There's nothing else to say. Show's over.

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I guess I'm wondering why a sugar packet is the main point of interest here... not how he got across the country without being spotted, why Jack didn't put a round through his head as soon as he walked in the room, how he's extremely lucky the car remote was still in range of the building, not about how he snuck into Skyler's house.... :sus:



What if the M60 had hit the meth lab and killed Jesse as well?
 
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I guess I'm wondering why a sugar packet is the main point of interest here... not how he got across the country without being spotted, why Jack didn't put a round through his head as soon as he walked in the room, how he's extremely lucky the car remote was still in range of the building, not about how he snuck into Skyler's house.... :sus:



What if the M60 had hit the meth lab and killed Jesse as well?
Because all of those are too possible and likely to happen (irl) so theyre not really as interesting :p
 
all in all i thought the ending was quite tidy and believable .... i thought the stevia packet was completely plausible given walters meticulous personality.... if i had to find fault with something it would be the amount of luck involved in everyone being in the correct position for the aryan nation shootout... like folley said they could have killed walt as soon as he drove up/ walked in
 
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