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Television Breaking Bad

You know it's not a coincidence.

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^Yeah, I've been thinking about that jacket too. It sure looks like Walter has killed Jesse. Maybe some clever misdirection on the part of Vince Gilligan?

Is anyone else hoping that Walter White will kill that prick and his bitch girlfriend from the first episode before it's all said and done? You know, the one who dragged his chair in class and later made fun of Mr. White and took his picture while he was cleaning their car?

*fingers crossed that they're the reason he bought the M60. Either that or the ricin.
 
Holy shit. I just watched the episode last night. Skyler was likable for once, which is nice. It's good to see she sides with Walt, occasional monster that he is. We saw a part of his good side last night as he was on the bathroom floor: His willingness to sacrifice himself for the good of his (immediate) family.

That cliffhanger is driving me absolutely crazy. I agree that Saul may just save the day, but honestly I think Hank is going in there to rescue Jesse, with the understanding that Jesse will bring him Walt and that he will not say a word about Hank's brother-in-law. If Walt goes down in that interview room, Hank is coming with him. I wonder if they will find some excuse for Jesse to walk out with the money, as that would be tougher on Jesse than losing it. It's like he can't shake it no matter what he does. It would be interesting to see Hank and Jesse working together to bring Walt down. It's too early in the season for Jesse to be behind bars for the remaining six episodes.

And I'm not so sure that that jacket implies that Walt killed Jesse. The jacket is something that Jesse wears on rare occasions, I'm not entirely sure that it isn't a bit of a reach. The bacon is for sure a sign, but both of them could also mean he is feeling guilty for having either gotten them killed inadvertently, or for having killed them metaphorically by ruining their lives.

And what the fuck is up with Lydia? She has a dozen people killed and can't even look at the bodies? She is a great character, so dangerous in her subtle, frightened of life ways.

I love how each episode has been more fast paced and frenetic than the one before it. I thought I was going to have a heart attack halfway through the episode. I actually had to stop watching at a commercial break and pace around the room a little bit to calm myself down; I simply could not take anymore in such a short window of time. Breaking Bad is as close to a drug as television will ever get. I cannot remember or imagine another show that has such a visceral effect on me.
 
Jesse has been a flake for a long time now, and other than introducing Walt to the basics of drug-dealing, he's been pretty pointless for awhile IMO...Jesse's character does have a "conscience", but he's a complete moron who has no idea what he really wants!....Throwing stacks of money out the window? That's just stupid!

He can cook crystal almost as good as Walt (in Mexico he hit 96% purity) and he was vital to the schemes that went down in the first few episodes of season 5 (destroying the computer in evidence lockup, setting up tents to cook in, stealing the methylone? from the train).

I've mentioned in a few posts that his actions have been frustrating lately because he is being careless, but to call him pointless and a moron is way off base.


I'm curious what's going to happen to Walt and if his cancer is really back and going to kill him.

In the flash forward at the beginning of episode 1 of season 5, the scene where we see Walt opening the trunk to look at the M60, part of the flash forward shows him in the bathroom where he gives the guy money and the guy gives him keys to the car with the gun. While Walt is in the bathroom he takes out a pill bottle and swallows a pill. It could be meds for his cancer, which is what I'm assuming it is.

Or maybe it was the ricin capsule and he decided that those were going to be his last 24-72 hours.
 
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He can cook crystal almost as good as Walt (in Mexico he hit 96% purity) and he was vital to the schemes that went down in the first few episodes of season 5 (destroying the computer in evidence lockup, setting up tents to cook in, stealing the methylone? from the train).

I've mentioned in a few posts that his actions have been frustrating lately because he being careless, but to call him pointless and a moron is way off base

Obviously he's a main character on the show and his actions have major implications that affect the whole plot..."Pointless" was a poor choice of words maybe...

I'm just getting so sick of seeing him have these meltdowns, where he keeps going off the deep-end and doing dumb shit because he can't get over his "guilt" or whatever...

I assume he's plagued by guilt and conflicted about the consequences his actions have had on other people, but that leads me to another thing that really frustrates me about Jesse:
Aside from a few vague "heart to hearts" with Walt, he never really comes out and says what's on his mind....the only thing that we the audience are left with to figure out what his though process might be is his overall demeanor and the weird "wishy-washy" shit that he does!

I know Jesse isn't supposed to be a genius, but I wish he was a just a little more "articulate" or at least had a little more dialogue where he expressed himself with some depth!...Maybe that's exactly the way they want his character to be, but for me the character is just a little too ambiguous to really know how to feel about him...At this point in the series he should somewhat know who he is and what he wants and be taking actions toward that end, not acting like a little baby just sitting there waiting for "fate" to decide for him!
 
Any of you guys notice the color symbolism they use in the show? I've been lining that ish up with the 4 elements (earth, wind, fire, water). I think Walt (wind) Jesse(fire) Skylar(you would think wind buy i think water) and Hank is earth.

Air moves us
Fire transform us
Water shapes us
Earth heals us.

http://goldencupcafe.tripod.com/html/the_four_elements.html

They show it more in the begginning of the show. Skylar wears a lot of blue Jesse: Red, Walt WHITE wears black as Hiesenberg etc.

I remember one cool scene where Jesse's life was goin crappy and he falls into a porto potty and gets blue stuff all over him.

The clothing and backdrops usually line up. Sols office is green (money) Sol means Sun and everyone kind of revolves around Sol.

Now I am just blabbering. I used to come here in 06 with the name oxy-somethin or other- saw you guys were hyping on BB and had to post. :D
 
Any of you guys notice the color symbolism they use in the show? I've been lining that ish up with the 4 elements (earth, wind, fire, water). I think Walt (wind) Jesse(fire) Skylar(you would think wind buy i think water) and Hank is earth.

Air moves us
Fire transform us
Water shapes us
Earth heals us.

http://goldencupcafe.tripod.com/html/the_four_elements.html

They show it more in the begginning of the show. Skylar wears a lot of blue Jesse: Red, Walt WHITE wears black as Hiesenberg etc.

I remember one cool scene where Jesse's life was goin crappy and he falls into a porto potty and gets blue stuff all over him.

The clothing and backdrops usually line up. Sols office is green (money) Sol means Sun and everyone kind of revolves around Sol.

Now I am just blabbering. I used to come here in 06 with the name oxy-somethin or other- saw you guys were hyping on BB and had to post. :D


Walt's color is green. Skyler's is blue. Hank is orange. Jesse is red and yellow. Marie is purple. Lots and lots of purple.

Mike was always in black, Gus wore a lot of yellow but also very dull, earthy colors like brown tweed. Obviously the characters all wear different colors at different points in time (except for Marie), but these are the colors these characters most often tend to appear in.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what the colors actually mean, in most scenes. In the season 4 episode Box Cutter I know that the brown shirts Walt and Jesse were wearing at the Denny's represented the combination of their two primary colors, with Walt wearing red shoes and Jesse wearing a green item somewhere.

As the seasons have progressed, it seems to me that Walt has been less likely to wear green. The colors are constantly changing as the world becomes increasingly complicated. But the color of the character's attire is always carefully crafted and calculated, and usually has some symbolic meaning behind it.

Also, Walt wears red when he tells Hank that his Heisenberg is still out there in season 4. His undershirt is an even deeper red the next morning when he tells Skyler that he is the one who knocks. He wore purple a couple episodes before that after he got knocked the fuck out by Mike, and continued to wear it until his bruise was healed. Obviously, purple in his context does not share the same meaning with purple in Marie's context. So the same colors can mean different things on different characters.
 
This may seem far fetched but what if jesse snitches on everything and goes in to witness protection, and the whole scene we see with walt at the beggining of Season 5 is walt going to kill jesse so he wont testify against him and more importantly skylar?
 
Poor Walt Jr? Poor RJ Mitte, if you ask me What the hell role is he ever going to get now? The highlight of his career will be suttering the word pussy in season 1.
 
I guess Hank and Marie did have a discussion about kind of what I was talking about this past episode, about Hank's credibility...They doubted him before though, and he was right...Of all the characters in the whole series, the evolution of Hank is the most interesting..

In addition to appearing incompetent for not realizing it was his brother-in-law all along, it would be easy as hell for Skyler and Hank to claim he knew all along and intentionally blew the investigation...

I guess everyone assumes based on the flash forward in the first episode that Walt is running from the cops, but it's possible that it's something else entirely...I don't know that it's gonna work out that "everyone dies"...Jesse has been a flake for a long time now, and other than introducing Walt to the basics of drug-dealing, he's been pretty pointless for awhile IMO...Jesse's character does have a "conscience", but he's a complete moron who has no idea what he really wants!....Throwing stacks of money out the window? That's just stupid!

I remember when this show first aired...I never gave it a chance back then because the premise was so unrealistic...It turns out I was right, but it's still a very entertaining show...Although IRL, Walter's career as a meth cook would have been over before the second season ended.


The next episode is called "Confessions"

"Jesse decides to make a change, while Walt and Skyler try to deal with an unexpected demand.Source: AMC"


I'm thinking he comes clean and tells the whole tale, definitely not leaving Hank out (the guy that beat the SHIT out of him). Hank will probably get fired and want to get his own justice at Walt after that, and I'm thinking they have a show down where things continue as I outlined above..


I shouldn't say everyone will die, I'm really just quite sure of Hank and Walt's eventual deaths. If his cancer is back, he's obviously not on chemo anymore.. Walt ending up on a beach in Mexico somewhere with his family just isn't going to happen, it's not the show's style. I'm not as sure about Skyler leaving Walt after seeing her defend him now, but obviously the house is vacant so they're on the run... I'm thinking there's a reason why Walt is all alone too. I don't really think he would let Walt Jr and his baby become fugitives, and I doubt skyler would leave them. Not sure where that is heading.

A lot of shit is about to go down, we all know that much. BB sure knows how to create suspense in a story
 
The clothing and backdrops usually line up. Sols office is green (money) Sol means Sun and everyone kind of revolves around Sol.


His name is Saul. Saul Goodman.

Someone pointed out earlier in this thread that if you say it quick it's like, "S'all good man" or refined even more "It's all good, man".
 
Not sure if everyone else noticed that the cops that were interrogating Jesse at the end of the last episode were the same cops that interrogated Jesse after he mentioned ricin when Brock was in the hospital.
 
The next episode is called "Confessions"

The cliffhanger with Hank going into the interview room is a red herring. Hank's goal will be to get Jesse out of there as quickly and quietly as possible.


The real "Confessions" will involve Walt and Jesse interacting with each other, reminiscing about old times, with Walt clarifying just how active he has been in shaping the worst experiences of Jesse's life.


Book it. This is where Jesse finds out about Jane.
 
The cliffhanger with Hank going into the interview room is a red herring. Hank's goal will be to get Jesse out of there as quickly and quietly as possible.


The real "Confessions" will involve Walt and Jesse interacting with each other, reminiscing about old times, with Walt clarifying just how active he has been in shaping the worst experiences of Jesse's life.


Book it. This is where Jesse finds out about Jane.

How do you think he would find out about either Jane or Brock? Who else knows that could tell him?
 
^I think he's saying that Walter is gonna spill the beans...I don't really remember exactly what happened with Jane...Walter saw her ODing and did nothing?
 
^I think he's saying that Walter is gonna spill the beans...I don't really remember exactly what happened with Jane...Walter saw her ODing and did nothing?

Why would Walter do something to knowingly push Jesse away when he's been so close to loosing him before? Walt knows Jesse is hanging on by a thread and does not want that thread to break...

The only person who knows about both Jane and Brock, the real truth, is Saul. He helped Walt cover up both of those events.

So, somehow, maybe Jesse finds out from him and confronts Walt who eventually just admits it but... I can't see Walt just confessing out of the blue.
 
Why would Walter do something to knowingly push Jesse away when he's been so close to loosing him before? Walt knows Jesse is hanging on by a thread and does not want that thread to break...

The only person who knows about both Jane and Brock, the real truth, is Saul. He helped Walt cover up both of those events.

So, somehow, maybe Jesse finds out from him and confronts Walt who eventually just admits it but... I can't see Walt just confessing out of the blue.

A lot of what Walt has done makes absolutely no sense. I can't speak to the reason Walt would spill the beans about Jane and Brock, but it almost has to happen for the series to complete itself. I think it is going to happen in this episode. That is my prediction.


My predictions about this show are almost never right, but that is my prediction and I'm sticking with it.
 
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