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Television Breaking Bad

'medicine cabinet' said:
Yea it was tough watching mike go. Im thinking walt will dump the body and make like he skipped town. And even worse is the feds robbed his bankroll twice. BUT he was still alive at the end. Anyone think he will somehoow get help?
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No, he is going to die there. If he goes for help then he will just end up in prison.
 
"Jesse, no one else will die."
"That's what you always say Mr. White and every time you're wrong."
"I mean it this time, Jesse."

*He kills Mike*

I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of Mike though (i.e. flashbacks).

edit: oh, and a 5 year old isn't getting a buttload of drug money her assassin grandfather left for her. boo hoo.
 
Max Power said:
edit: oh, and a 5 year old isn't getting a buttload of drug money her assassin grandfather left for her. boo hoo.
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Didn't he just leave her alone in the park? That will be the last memory she has of her grandfather. When she turns 18 she won't get any of the cash he left for her and she won't know that there was cash originally left for her. So he essentially died with her believing he was just some criminal asshole.
 
Carl Landrover said:
Didn't he just leave her alone in the park? That will be the last memory she has of her grandfather. When she turns 18 she won't get any of the cash he left for her and she won't know that there was cash originally left for her. So he essentially died with her believing he was just some criminal asshole.
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Meh, I'm sure she'll find all about the court proceedings and the DEA taking her drug-money inheritance when she gets older. I'd still think my grandfather was some criminal asshole for taking such risks. I'd rather have my grandpa help raise me than the possibility of a shit ton of cash when I turn 18 (which, by the way is so moronic to give to an 18-year-old anyway).
 
There's a conspiracy floating around on the internet that says Mike doesn't die. Walter rolls him into the lake which revives Mike. He is part trout after all, amirite.
 
^ Lol

Fucking Walt is really going to be fucked now, Mike was pretty much the only competent criminal, he knew the ins and outs of everything while Walt just stumbles through shit and has no idea how that world really works

This last episode definitely set it up for a Walt vs Jesse show down though, bringing Todd into cooking and when Jesse finds out about Mike he's going to be pissed.

But let's be real for a second, by the end of the series, Walt just has to die, amirite? Some how some way it just has to happen, if not I have no idea how Gilligan is going to end it all
I don't really care about anyone else surviving though besides Jesse, the rest can all die as long as Jesse makes it out and learns the truth and ends up building bird houses for a living.

I mean yeah he's done some bad shit through out the series but pretty much the whole time he's been the one that actually cares and has feeling for the bad shit he's done or people's he's hurt in the process. Walt could care less
 
23536 said:
Why did he think he had to shoot him in the first place?
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he wanted the list of names of all the ppl who worked for fring that would be able to potentially bust them, i believe it was 9 names, ten including mike and 2 or 3 episodes ago, one of mikes guys gets hired by lydia to kill every man on the list for 10k a pop with mikes bounty being 30k. Mike finds out after his guy kills chow the chem supplier, then mike kills the guy. So that would leave 8 ppl that could sink them all.

after walt shoots him hes like oh wait, i could have gotten the names from lydia, sorry bout that lol

i did think it was kinda sad in the scene when the cops were closing in on mike at the park and you could see him about to yell for his granddaughter then stopped bc the cops were out of the car at that point and a second rc was pulling up. like having to choose between what seems like the most important thing in his life and his own freedom. I knew he would be around for a while when we first see him come over to jessies afrter jane OD's (walter doesnt turn her over, potentially saving her life) And mike comes in to "clean the place" and coach jesse what to say to the cops. i thought damn this dude is a bad ass.
 
23536 said:
Why did he think he had to shoot him in the first place?
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Walt wanted those names to tie up the loose ends I guess and didn't think he had any other option, maybe he just wanted to hurt him and get the names and not kill him, but then after he catches him and sees he is dying he realises that he can get the names from the methlamine source.

^ he beat me to it lol
 
I don't know about you guys, but I had pretty mixed feelings about Mike (as a person) despite loving him as a character. I mean, let's face it - the guy was a Grade A scumbag, arguably just as vile (if not more so) as Walter. While his granddaughter was a touching nuance of his otherwise blood-soaked image in the show, this just didn't go far enough in humanizing his character for me. The guy was a dead-eyed, stone-cold killer with a lot of pent-up frustration and a perpetual chip on his shoulder. I'm not saying he had to go, but I'm also unlikely to shed a tear over his sudden demise.
 
^true. When he found out lydia was the one who set up the hit and waits in hiding for her to get home, there is a part when he grabs her and tells her to tell the nanny to go put her daughter to bed and then go home for the night, and at some point she begs him not to kill her daughter and he says "as long as you dont scream I wont have to" I mean he didnt end up killing lydia, but just the fact they gave him that line was like ice. So i agree with you there that he was a totally cold blooded hard case.
 
whataboutheforests said:
everyone keeps talking about the ricin cig, isn't it just a glass vial with ricin in it that's small enough to fit in a cig? I don't think anybody can actually smoke it and get poisoned.
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IIRC (or just do a wiki search), Ricin is a protein or polypeptide. Even if it was outside a glass vial mixed with the tobacco, the burning and heat would denature/destroy it, making in ineffective. It has to be breathed in as a dust/vapour, swallowed or injected. I'm pretty sure burning it destroys the compound.

Tommyboy said:
Now does Walt (or the news) tell Jesse and Saul what happened with him, or does he get rid of the body and say that he gave Mike his bag and he took off?
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Either he does the hydrofluoric acid trick or just finds a place in the desert to bury him. I have a feeling he'll just let fugitive status on Mike come out on the news and say he doesn't have a clue what happened to Mike to Jesse and Saul. If Jesse finds out he might just take it upon himself to rid the world of Walt before he kills more people. Mike and Jesse had a rapport and he wouldn't let Mike's murder go so easily. Not to mention if he ever finds out about Brock and Jane.

AmorRoark said:
Poor Mike. All his granddaughter's inheritance is GONE now.
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I was thinking that too. Mike just disappeared into thin air, from her side of things; abandoning her. If he had turned himself in he would still be able to have contact with her, albeit in prison visits, and he wouldn't have died, but that's just the way things went. He decided to run, leaving her behind, abandoning her, but thinking he could get away and still have her get the inheritance. But yeah, her drug funded inheritance is toast. She lost her grandpa and financial security, so sad. :(

'medicine cabinet' said:
BUT he was still alive at the end. Anyone think he will somehoow get help?
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No, Mike's definitely dead. The very last frames are of him collapsing to the left with a 'thunk', IIRC. On behind scenes clips on amctv.com they talk about the episode as Mike's death and all the details.

Bill said:
Fucking Walt is really going to be fucked now, Mike was pretty much the only competent criminal, he knew the ins and outs of everything while Walt just stumbles through shit and has no idea how that world really works

This last episode definitely set it up for a Walt vs Jesse show down though, bringing Todd into cooking and when Jesse finds out about Mike he's going to be pissed.

But let's be real for a second, by the end of the series, Walt just has to die, amirite? Some how some way it just has to happen, if not I have no idea how Gilligan is going to end it all
I don't really care about anyone else surviving though besides Jesse, the rest can all die as long as Jesse makes it out and learns the truth and ends up building bird houses for a living.

I mean yeah he's done some bad shit through out the series but pretty much the whole time he's been the one that actually cares and has feeling for the bad shit he's done or people's he's hurt in the process. Walt could care less
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Yeah, Walt is toast. Without Mike and Jesse he can't handle anything but production. He has no tact when it comes to thinking things through and dealing with hardened criminals like the people he's selling to now. Sure Walt is cold-blooded like a criminal but he doesn't have the hands on experience or instincts for that side of things.

Todd is a dumb simpleton who will likely slip up and lead to an exposure bringing the DEA closer to Heisenberg.

Jesse is obviously just done, ultra done. He doesn't even care about the money anymore. I thought if Walt doesn't give him the money he'd 'steal' what's rightfully his when Walt's back is turned, but I think he left the shop with the idea of "screw it, even if he won't give me the money I'm still just going to walk away". Jesse's come full-circle in the sense that he was all about getting rich (think being mad about Fring's 3 mil salary when he started calculating their production), and now he just wants to stay alive and not have anyone else die either. He just doesn't care about money anymore.

He still has a very nice house, and I'm sure he has money from the last while; Fring and post-Fring. I don't think he needs the 5 mil anyway. I could actually see Jesse becoming involved in the legal recreational drug industry (alcohol and tobacco). He knows enough chemistry and he's good at selling drugs and dealing with people. If he were to actually get a legitimate career. Maybe he'll get a distiller's license or open a brewery.

'medicine cabinet' said:
^true. When he found out lydia was the one who set up the hit and waits in hiding for her to get home, there is a part when he grabs her and tells her to tell the nanny to go put her daughter to bed and then go home for the night, and at some point she begs him not to kill her daughter and he says "as long as you dont scream I wont have to" I mean he didnt end up killing lydia, but just the fact they gave him that line was like ice. So i agree with you there that he was a totally cold blooded hard case.
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About Lydia, Mike was pretty firm about his stance that she was a conniving, betraying person who was a severe liability to getting caught or killed and I think he's right about that. She's got a file with the DEA, and is half in their pocket. I think she has the potential to sell Walt out to them and might actually do it. Either Lydia or Todd is going to be the link to exposure.

As to final showdowns; I'm pretty confident it's going to end up muzzle to muzzle between Walt and Hank. I don't think the thought that Walt is Heisenberg is going to even enter Hank's mind until they're looking down the sights at each other.

As for outcomes, Hank might have a team or he might be solo, on an unintended discovery. Walt may have an M60 with linked belts, but does he know a damn thing about using it? The only firearms experience he's had is a few point blank pistol shots. Hank is a veteran DEA agent who has no doubt had years of firing range practice with various weapons systems.

When it comes to a shootout, I think Hank is going to win. He's not going to like the sight or idea of shooting Walt, but when he sees Walt is not who he thought he was and that Walt's getting ready to shoot, Hank is going to shoot before he himself is shot.
 
I highly doubt Jesse is done. He's done with Walt, that is certain. He doesn't care about the money, but his plot isn't really complete until he finds out about Jane and Brock. Walt vs. Jesse is on now. Revenge might fuel Jesse back into the thick of things, on opposite sides of Walt. He's the second lead and we have 9 episodes left, it's hard for me to imagine him dying in the next episode, and even more difficult to envision him going legit this early in the game.

I'm thinking he cuts Walt out of their organization, and history repeats itself for Walter, who got cut out of Gray Matter for being a dick then too. Walt can't handle success without self-destructing. I'm really not sure if he shot Mike for the names, or out of anger due to Mike insulting his pride.

Mike's story was a fucking tragedy this episode.
 
yeah Jesse wont be done till near the end i bet, but we'll have to wait and see, that's one of the great things about this show, it keeps us all guessing.
 
PepperSocks said:
As to final showdowns; I'm pretty confident it's going to end up muzzle to muzzle between Walt and Hank. I don't think the thought that Walt is Heisenberg is going to even enter Hank's mind until they're looking down the sights at each other.

As for outcomes, Hank might have a team or he might be solo, on an unintended discovery. Walt may have an M60 with linked belts, but does he know a damn thing about using it? The only firearms experience he's had is a few point blank pistol shots. Hank is a veteran DEA agent who has no doubt had years of firing range practice with various weapons systems.

When it comes to a shootout, I think Hank is going to win. He's not going to like the sight or idea of shooting Walt, but when he sees Walt is not who he thought he was and that Walt's getting ready to shoot, Hank is going to shoot before he himself is shot.
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yea without a doubt, when walt buys the thing he asks the guy if it has an intruction manual with it and the guy tells him "yea i printed something off the internet" lol
 
I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth, but I think Peppersocks was saying Jesse was done with Walt and done with cooking, not done as in he's going to die or be taken out of the series (at least not in the next few episodes).

Do you guys think Jesse will actually find out about Jane? The only way would be if Walt told him point-by-point what happened. Jt's not something that seems liable to slip out.
 
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