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Everyone should visit bettercallsaul.com and watch every video there.

Espescially you Amor :D
 
Is anyone else a little nervous about the next season? Given that everything came to a nice neat conclusion in season four, Vince Gilligan is gonna have to up his game if he doesn't want to jump the shark (making Walt a criminal kingpin would do exactly that).

I doubt the show is going to END that way (with Walt as kingpin) but I think his takeover of the trade now that there is going to be a HUGE supply hole in the market is inevitable. In fact, it's pretty much what we're left to conclude after the final S4 episode.

Interestingly VG is a big believer (or more accurately, WANTS to believe given historical exceptions like Idi Amin) in karma and comeuppance. So with this show described as neo-noir, you can pretty much fill in how it will end. A reporter asked him to square his believe in karmic retribution and the end of season 4, given that he's admitted that he wrote season 4 like it could possibly be the final season since he was embroiled in the same tough negotiations with AMC that caused the channel to cancel Mad Men in 2011, and at the end of S4 it looks like Walt has "won". VG's reply was that that was only one way of looking at it, as it was quite possible, even probable, that Walt's newly minted life will cause him far more misery and paranoia (as I'm sure Hank will be hot on his tail, and how he eventually deals with Hank is an epic question for next season) than what you might expect the prize of a "winner" to receive. As much as I might think I know what's going to happen next season, I'm confident VG will surprise and entertain regardless.

The reason why shows like Sopranos thrives, I believe, is its close adherence to realism where amoral characters thrive in an amoral universe rather than the incessant morality plays that have become the pathetic formula of network television. It's why cable series have become the "must watch" TV for their lack of adherence to such conformity. BB might be a Neo Noir with a theme of karma and justice, but just not in the ways you would expect. It's deceptive brilliance is it's calling card.
 
I can't flipping wait for this show to come back, or at least for Comcast to start replaying the seasons On Demand so I can watch them over and over in preparation.

Like someone else said, I'm sad they're ending it after this season, but I think it's the better option than dragging it out and making each season more and more ludicrous and off base like.....WEEDS!?
 
Whenever I think of shows that went beyond their welcome I always think of 'Oz'.

That would be quality shows though. 'Friends' should never have existed at all, so it can't qualify.
 
I can't flipping wait for this show to come back, or at least for Comcast to start replaying the seasons On Demand so I can watch them over and over in preparation.

Like someone else said, I'm sad they're ending it after this season, but I think it's the better option than dragging it out and making each season more and more ludicrous and off base like.....WEEDS!?

OMG yes. As sad as I am that the show's ending, this seems like a natural length for the series. Given the plot line, dragging it out for multiple additional seasons would not be terribly believable, and it would risk unraveling the story (which is currently as solid as fucking concrete).

The way Weeds went still makes me so angry...the first three seasons of that show were BRILLIANT. If you just look at those, it's one of my favorite shows of all time. But each subsequent season has become progressively more absurd...and not in the good way that Weeds had always been absurd, but in a way that made it seem like the writers were pulling the plot completely out of their asses. Which they were. Sigh...
 
The Simpsons should have ended half its lifetime ago. For the last 10-15 seasons (at ~25 now?) it's just been a shell of what it used to be. Same characters, completely different style of humour; gutter, more pop/media references, feels forced and false. But hey, if people keep watching new episodes they're going to keep making them.

Also I noticed something neat; the newer seasons are rated TV14, ~8-12 are PG, and before ~8 are rated G. That's when the show had smart soul and wasn't a degenerate trash heap trying to be like Family Guy (which is a good show, but a different show).

I'm glad Gilligan and AMC want to stop at 5 seasons. It's the perfect time. He's at the top of the shit pile now and there's only one direction to go. :)
 
Dexter has also been terribly played out. The past 2 seasons have just been awful. I was stunned to hear they signed on with Showtime for 2 more seasons.
 
I'm wondering if Walt is going to have to deal with people involved with Gus' operation. Now that he's dead, there may be foreign investors, and even law enforcement officials looking for compensation.
 
Yeah surely the mexican cartel consisted of more than 10 guys.

Theres gotta be something more with that..

Hopefully walter gets a one on one with ted beneckee, or at least gets mike to blow up his new merc.

I noticed a shift in Jesse from like the last 2 episodes of the 3rd serious right up the the end of the 4th, where he was seeming to become more mature.

I fuckin' love the scene where he tells the counseller that it wasn't ok to back over his kid high on coke and booze, and that accepting himself is a lot of bullshit,
also im sure saul goodman could get a spin off show. the guys an actual legend, one of the best screen lawyer characters ever.
 
What if the investigation of ted's death blows the whole thing upsidedown only walt has to step in for skyler just like he had to for jesse at first. That'd be fucked up. What if Marie and Hank meet their ends when all the people she's stolen from send a sketchy repo collection agency after them and one of Hank's beer bottles in the garage blows up and sends the cap down Marie's throat and they take her hostage as she's choking to death and Hank gets in a car chase after them and Walt is running from a massive FBI brigade just as Junior is waking up disappointed once again for no breakfast prepared. The camera cuts to Walt Jr. during this crucial moment as something snaps in his head and he may or may not break bad. During the car chase on Walt's end of things a fly lands on his forehead and fucks up his driving ability as he tries to kill it, eventually Walt crashes into Hank and there's a massive pile-up when SWAT vans crash into Repo men vans. Just then the Chilean army sends missles over and declares war on the United States as Gus was an integral part of international relations between North and South America. By one man's cancer diagnosis the entire Western half of the continent gets wiped out in nuclear war and then a sick as spin off series ensues focusing on the survivors on the Eastern part of the country. I think Jesse should live through the blasts though, and Mike.
Mike can actually grow more powerful and mutates into a radioactive hitman with a heart of gold.
 
Yeah surely the mexican cartel consisted of more than 10 guys.

Sure but cartels tend to be run as top down hierarchies. So everyone immediately under the pinnacle group would likely be happy the kings are dead so they have a chance to advance themselves. A power struggle will ensue until a victor emerges that can consolidate. Suffice to say, they won't be pursuing the guy who made their promotions possible.
 
I'm wondering if Walt is going to have to deal with people involved with Gus' operation. Now that he's dead, there may be foreign investors, and even law enforcement officials looking for compensation.

Well he is going to have to deal with Mike, who obviously had a strong sense of loyalty toward Gus as his primary BG and muscle. Remember the beat down he put on Walt when he dared to suggest Mike cross Gus? One thing that VG has foretold is that Mike will not be pleased.
 
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