brain chemistry changed by adderall..

[its420time]

I have been useing adderall for both school and recreation, my usual dose is anywhere from 20mg - 30mg never ate more than 30mg at one time. This has been going on for about 2 and half weeks for almost everyday except the the weekends. I have stopped, but now have anxiety and insomnia even not useing add for 2 months. I talked to my doctor and he told me that elavil would help me "re-balance" my brain chemistry, mostly the dopamine in my head because I know adderall works on dopamine re-uptake.
My question is would medication like paxil, wellbutrin, prozac, mostly anti-depressants help me balance my brain chem? Thanks in advance.
Since adderall is becoming more popular I warn people useing adderall recreationally to keep it under control and not abuse it so much. evil pill.
[This message has been edited by goodkarma (edited 13 June 2001).]

 

[puffbunnyx]

I wouldn't take more medicines to balance out your brain chemistry. I would either use small amouts every day, even on the weekends so your body is used to it or don't take it at all and let your brain heal the natural way. I to have ADD and take a few extra pills now and then. I convinced my doctor though that the best way for me to take my meds is on my basis and whenever I want to. I hated when my parents would force me to take meds after a night of little sleep. I felt like crap the next day. Point of post? two wrongs do not make a right.

 

[djtonedeaf]

ask your doctor for specifics when he's talking about "rebalancing" your brain chemistry...
elavil doesn't work on dopamine as far as I know, it works on the other big three, but it sounds like a good choice for the symptoms you are describing.
If you are experiencing anxiety and sleeplessness, then Wellbutrin is not a good choice. Paxil, maybe, but if you take Wellbutrin you might just feel like your back on the addies.

 

[its420time]

Just to clarify I am not prescribed adderall, I just take it from people I know. Thanks, I will ask my doctor if he thinks paxil is right for me. Just curious did anyone go through this phase after useing adderall for a long time and quiting?

 

[WeekapaugGruv]

I've been using adderall and ritalin for a few years now recreationally/academically and for the most part i've stopped. your right that shit is evil..seen Requiem for a Dream yet? If i were you i would just wait it out, I know alot of people run into even more problems with Paxil (loss of libido, weight gain, etc etc.) Our bodies naturally seek balance for the most part and I think time would be your best (safest) bet.
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[its420time]

Yeah I have seen reqiuem for a dream and I think it's a great movie. The pills in the movie did look exactly like adderall, especially the orange ones [20mg]. When I stopped taking the evil pills I think I went into a 'weird' state, not as bad as the old lady in the movie though! I hope I get better with time.
Thanks for all the replies.

 

[koskenkorva]

I have adult ADD and take 20mg twice a day.
All I cn say is that it is a Miracle drug for my ADD.
Recreational use for me means I have to take 80mg to feel what people who do not have ADD feel with 20mg.
As for your brain chemistry being changed, "hogwash", don't chase one chemical with another, perscribed or otherwise.
Sounds like you were getting hooked. Adderall is Amphetamine. Amphetamine is "speed" , "whiz", etc. This is Pharamceutical grade Amphetamine. Amphetamine is "Highly" addictive. The mood swings and irritability are COMMON signs of addicition or at least the early signs of "dependence" are there.
I reccommend leaving Adderall alone.
I really limit my intake now. I only take it about once a day, and then none on the weekends.

 

[split_oak]

wellbutrin is for dopamine
paxil, etc is an ssri - seratonin!
not dopamine,
elavil is amitryptiline - a tri-cyclic.
as far as i know... it is not really known what all this acts on, but it is a broad-range drug, that effects several systems.
it is an old-skewl antidepressant, not used much since benzodiazapines proved less addictive? and less side-effects. as i understand it - mainly prescribed for those who don't respond well to benzos. or those who NEED the sedating effects. great come-down drug! puts u to sleep! but i would not think (personal opinion, not based on any medical evidence)that it would be a 1st choice for dopamine imbalance! far from selective to this neurochemical.

 

[CHEF KET'AMINE]

I may have the answer to your problem- as for rebalancing your brain via the dopamine transmittters, amphetamines deplete your brains store of dopamine, and maybe norepineprine. U need to replenish your store, the only way to do that is with a precurser chemical, such as phenylalanine and tyrosine, these are both amino acids which can be bought at vitamin shops. Take them for a few weeks and u should feel beter.
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[PhreeX]

Just to clairify the anti-d's ..
Paxil, Zoloft, Prozac, etc.. they are all SSRI's, however they also have an affinity for dopamine - in fact, SSRI's have more inhabititive actions at dopamine sites then Wellbutrin, which we are not exactly sure how it works... the TAD's are simply non-selective in the neurotransmitters they block the reuptake of - da, ne, 5ht, etc..
I don't think you need any medications - it sounds like you're just experiencing some withdrawal, it will pass..
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[skankin_mable]

i used to take aderall but in made me an evil bitch. (i have ADHD really really bad)
i was prescribed to 30mg, but now i take concerta (it like a time release combination of aderall and ritalin or something) and it worx a lot better. like i take 56mg. and it worx and doesn't have any side effects or anything, so if u like aderall, i recomend concerta, but u don't hafta listen to a little drunk girl!
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[FuzzyWuzzy]

Adderall 20 mgs a day for 200+ days (that's me

) will turn you into a psycho because of what dopamine and norepinephrine do. They make sure you stay alive in a fight/flight situation. So if you feel threatened, you shift into ass-kicking mode, all full of adrenaline and shit.
When these neurotransmitters are in excess you feel like ripping the heart out of the little old lady that is taking forever in front of you in the express lane at the supermarket and shove it up her ass; before, you'd just take a deep breath and think that that old lady is a stupid bitch and on with your life.
The high dopamine/norepinephrine levels make it as tho any situation that is supposed to be just "irritating" seem like a threatening situation that you have to protect yourself from by practicing regular road-rage. against the goddamn maniacs that don't get the hell out of the way.
That's why I also take Paxil. To reduce that anxiety which turns you into a "psycho-bitch-jerkoff"

 

[Dr. Quack]

Anti depressants will work if and only if you stop taking those little bastards. See how you feel in about 6 weeks. If you still have problems, or the problems seem to be getting worse talk to your doctor.
PS….
“the only way to do that is with a precursor chemical, such as phenylalanine and tyrosine”
you must work for GNC……hehehehe
If you take these your body will use what it needs and you will piss away the rest of the money you just spent on it. Eat a well balanced meal and you will get more ,or make all, that you need. If you don’t believe me talk to a nutritionist (one that went to college and studied the subject, not the retard at the store).

 

[HerbinMike]

Seriously, i would forego the elavil and just wait... and the advise about tyrosine is good advice, many people attest that it helps rebuild their dopamine levels faster, just like 5-htp helps with serotonin...
i binged on adderrall very hard and for a good period of time and when i quit it sucked but my brain never felt out of balance for any significant period of time... guess it must be that ADHD fucking up my drug response again...
ADHD - the world's greatest excuse (not to say that i don't have it)

 

[fairnymph]

I may have the answer to your problem- as for rebalancing your brain via the dopamine transmittters, amphetamines deplete your brains store of dopamine, and maybe norepineprine. U need to replenish your store, the only way to do that is with a precurser chemical, such as phenylalanine and tyrosine, these are both amino acids which can be bought at vitamin shops. Take them for a few weeks and u should feel beter.

Unfortunately, it doesn't quite work that way. The problems that you are experiencing are unlikely to be due to you not making enough dopamine. I would say that more likely your dopamine (and some other neurotransmitters as well) receptors have been altered by your adderall use. They have adapted to your adderall use so that now that they are no longer being stimulated by adderall your brain chemistry has suddenly become wildly thrown off track.
I don't believe SSRIs would be helpful as they too alter neurotransmitter (specifically serotonin) receptors. I would suggest tapering off the adderall very gradually. Eat well and exercise regurally, and allow your brain time to heal itself. If your anxiety and insomnia are REALLY bad and you can't acquire more adderall to taper off, then maybe a low dose of a benzo (such as klonopin) at night would be helpful in putting you to sleep.
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[DigitalTweak]

I have had a script for adderal and dexies for the last year and a half. It was for both recreational and school but i ended up taking 80mgs-150mgs a day, bingeing for weeks mixing it with ritilan and other random uppers.(meth,coke) Since then i have stopped and it was hell for a little while, but the drs gave me benzos and that made it better.