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Boosting Ethanol Euphoria!

waiting all night for the first drink, then downing all you have in two hours.

not a euphoric drug, a sedative and anxiolytic

But......

Tizadine boosts a lot for me :)

AND THC aka weed
 
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the best combination is coke because it's the only drug you can combine it with to actually create a whole new drug which is more powerful than either by themselves.

i don't know how people can mix alcohol with benzos, alcohol itself knocks me out pretty quickly, need stims just to keep up with everyone else... other than coke, though, stims don't increase the euphoria (unless you still get any euphoria from stims themselves), just mask how drunk you are
 
Actually ... this night I have (finally) learned that Stilnoct /Ambien boosts alcohol euphoria very well especially when combined with muscle relaxants. You get almost the euphoria from xtc.......... but wit extreme sedation.
 
ellua said:
the best combination is coke because it's the only drug you can combine it with to actually create a whole new drug which is more powerful than either by themselves.

i don't know how people can mix alcohol with benzos, alcohol itself knocks me out pretty quickly, need stims just to keep up with everyone else... other than coke, though, stims don't increase the euphoria (unless you still get any euphoria from stims themselves), just mask how drunk you are

I hope that I can get some coke sometime here, so that I can test it well. I take some proprnarorols with me to effect against the stroke.
 
A nice injection (if you still have a stable pulse) of cocaine and zolpidem would do a great jo, if you want to stay away from needles I´d say coke to begin with and drink a lot and then benzos to come down and eventually sleep.
 
The Young Geezer said:
A nice injection (if you still have a stable pulse) of cocaine and zolpidem would do a great jo, if you want to stay away from needles I´d say coke to begin with and drink a lot and then benzos to come down and eventually sleep.



isn't that backwards? drink a lot first, then coke.
 
Yeah you´re right, I was specifically talking about snorting cause I can´t stand snorting coke at public places and generally <i drink at pubs, not at hhome so if I´m snorting I´ll do it beforehand, on the otherhand if I already have the shot already prepared in the syringe I don´t mind hitting at public restrooms, though the lighting tends to suck and my visible veins are way too damaged :( if you want to form cocaethylene faster I reccomend a cordial, which is a drinl made out of an alcoholic beverage (generally a spirit) and betwen half a gram and a gram of cocaine inside the drink, ity actually is really nice (the numbness in the throat afterwards makes for easier drinking later also), though I know many people wouldn´t want to take their coke orally, blow is cheap as fuck down here so luckily I can afford it.
 
3-4 glasses of wine, 2-3 shots liquor, few hits of cannabis, 30 mg aderall(xr), 20 mg hydro or oxy or other opiate/heroin dose which is equivalent.

Pefect buzz. (besides psychedelics)
 
Zubi420 said:
3-4 glasses of wine, 2-3 shots liquor, few hits of cannabis, 30 mg aderall(xr), 20 mg hydro or oxy or other opiate/heroin dose which is equivalent.

Pefect buzz. (besides psychedelics)



not for the opiate naive... even that relatively "small" dose of hydro/oxy after ingesting that much alcohol could hurt them...
 
IcarusRisen said:
Cocaine combines with ethanol during metabolism to produce Cocaethylene (I believe). This compound is more euphoric than either alone.

It's also dangerous, but your call.

Exactly what I was about to say. Cocaethylene is AWESOME. Euphoria that you just flat out couldn't achieve with either substance alone. And as he said, dangerous to a degree, but everything in life has a certain risk/reward factor. :)
 
The Young Geezer said:
if you want to form cocaethylene faster I reccomend a cordial, which is a drinl made out of an alcoholic beverage (generally a spirit) and betwen half a gram and a gram of cocaine inside the drink

A gram is WAY high for someone with no tolerance. Even half a gram might be pushing it if you're not experienced with coke. Whatever you do, if you decide to consume your cocaine in this way, wait a good hour or more to see the effects before you even consider redosing. You don't want to be too fucked up to have a good time.
 
Psychlone Jack said:
Cocaethylene is AWESOME. Euphoria that you just flat out couldn't achieve with either substance alone. And as he said, dangerous to a degree, but everything in life has a certain risk/reward factor. :)

^ Couldn't agree more. =D I don't get much if any euphoria from alcohol on its own, but I surely do enjoy a few nice lines on their own, but when you combine the two there's nothing more euphoric and amazing, IMO. Coke and alcohol go together like bread and butter. Throw in some cigarettes, and you're all set. %)
 
it's not super high considering most of the shit that's out there today, and it loses quite a bit of potency orally anyway
 
Mind-Melt said:
what are the dangers of cocaethylene?

side note: i don't think it is all that powerful of a chemical...

Here you go:

Cocaethylene is a psychoactive ethyl homologue of cocaine, and is formed exclusively during the coadministration of cocaine and alcohol. Not a natural alkaloid of the coca leaf, cocaethylene can be identified in the urine, blood, hair, and neurological and liver tissue samples of individuals who have consumed both cocaine and alcohol. With a pharmacologic profile similar to cocaine, it can block the dopamine transporter on dopaminergic presynaptic nerve terminals in the brain. It increases dopamine synaptic content, provoking enhanced postsynaptic receptor stimulation, resulting in euphoria, reinforcement, and self-administration. Equipotent to cocaine with regard to dopamine transporter affinity, cocaethylene appears to be far less potent than cocaine with regard to serotonin transporter binding. Lacking the serotonergic-related inhibitory mechanism, cocaethylene appears to be more euphorigenic and rewarding than cocaine. Synthesized and administered cocaethylene has a behavioral stimulation profile similar to cocaine. Cocaethylene has been shown to be less potent and equipotent to cocaine, and alcohol plus cocaine produces more stimulatory locomotor behavior in mice than either drug alone. Equipotent to cocaine with regard to primate reinforcement and self-administration, cocaethylene can substitute for cocaine in drug discrimination studies, and can produce stimulation of operant conditioning in rats. With regard to lethality, cocaethylene has been shown to be more potent than cocaine in mice and rats. The combination of cocaine and alcohol appears to exert more cardiovascular toxicity than either drug alone in humans. Alcohol appears to potentiate cocaine hepatotoxicity in both humans and mice.
 
ellua said:
it's not super high considering most of the shit that's out there today, and it loses quite a bit of potency orally anyway

^ Fair enough. Assuming you get some quality coke - no active cuts, and a decently high % of actual coke - I just think it's prudent to take it a little slow and go from there. In the interests of harm reduction of course. ;)
 
you better be thankful that you are trying to enhance the feeling of alcohol

ask ANY alcoholic,they dont need to enhance the feeling ,its already the best feeling in the world,and its not even the alcohol that gets an alcoholic "high"


the majority of alcoholics are ALLERGIC/ADDICTED ALCOHOLICS...what i am saying is alcoholcs get the ot euphoria from alcohol,but the weird thing is the alcohol is signaling somthing else in the brain ,its not the alcohol getting them HIGH

"The Chemistry of Addiction"

Two decades ago, Texas researcher Virginia Davis noticed during autopsies of skid row alcoholics that their brains contained an opiate that she first mistook for heroin.. This was puzzling because these indigents did not have the money needed to support such an expensive drug habit. The heroin-like substance turned out to be THIQs that have been manufactured inside their brains when acetaldehyde from the breakdown of alcohol had combined with natural neurotransmitters. Davis's data support the concept of alcoholism as a true addiction stemming from specific biochemical events leading to the formation of an addictive substance similar to opiates such as heroin.

We now know that in heavy drinkers, THIQs displace endorphins and bind with the opiate receptors in the brain. In doing so, they signal the brain to stop producing endorphins, As the natural endorphin supply declines, more and more alcohol is needed to produce more THIQs to replace the natural endorphins and bind with opiate receptors to create feelings of well-being.

At the University of Texas, researcher Kenneth Blum, M.D., found that restoring these natural endorphins and neurotransmitters destroyed or depleted by alcohol will reduce cravings for alcohol and restore normal moods.

Some pertinent findings emerged from a study of the reactions to alcohol among two groups of college students. One group was composed of students who had a family history of alcoholism; those in the second group had no alcoholism in their backgrounds. After four drinks, the students from alcoholic families produced much higher levels of acetaldehyde, and they could perform a variety of mental and physical tests better under the influence of four drinks than when they had not been drinking. The students with no family history of alcoholism reported feeling moderately intoxicated and showed impaired physical dexterity, reflexes, and mental ability after four drinks."



but take it from my personal experience of being a MAJOR ALCOHOLIC ,as soon as the alcohol is gone..........the wort withdrawl you could ever imagine,but when i drank NOTHING EVER MADE ME SO EUPHORIC.....

what i am saying i you wont get intense euphoria from alcohol unless you are an alcoholic
 
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