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Bong lip

Cheers for clearing up the science behind it P_D, informative post as always!

From the sounds of things it doesn't sound like there is much one can do to counteract it which kinda sucks. It is funny you mention the more use a bong has had the more the tar will stick to certain bits. I wonder if this is why chronic smokers are more prone to this, because slight residue already on their lips attracts even more of the shit?
 
You could try an experiment; wipe the lips with an alcohol swab before inhaling and compare to control. Maybe something like a lip gloss would help =D
 
BTW Sublimit there is NO way I could switch to joints. After 8 years of smoking, heavy/daily for a significant period of that time I have quite a tolerance to weed. I have especially found since my break where I really abused the shit out of alcohol and benzo's being stoned feels a lot milder than it used to, even when I was previously smoking large amounts daily.

I remember back when I was smoking 3 grams of weed or more a day and one day me and my mate rolled a 2.5-3 gram blunt and shared it between us. Only took 10 minuts to smoke the whole thing and it honestly made us less stoned than the 6 bongs each we had a few hours earlier. Not dicksizing, just trying to illustrate exactly how wasteful joints are.

I don't know any regular smokers that could get truly stoned off a joint unless they were willing to roll up a ridiculous amount or the weed was as chronic as it comes. I struggle afford my daily bong habit, if I switched to joints I would break the bank very shortly.
 
Thats a sick idea P_D, I might have to try that, although I am not sure the taste/scent or pure alcohol on my lips would be pleasant it would have to beat the dreaded bong lip.

I was thinking of placing a tissue over the mouthpice of the bong while I smoked it, but I figured there was a remote possibility it could catch fire because of the large volume of hot, concentrated smoke passing through it in a short period of time.
 
know where you are coming from d_m.

as a regular bong smoker i found tar accumulating on my lips which i didn't really like as i'd usually stain my clothes as i wiped me gob after a cone.

so about two years ago i started putting tissue or dunny paper over the bong mouthpiece. this stopped the problem of bong lip.
 
I'd never experienced bong lip until recently. It's horrible.

My partner and all her friends use a tissue stuffed in the bong to set rid of most of the crap that'd stick to your lips. It works a treat. I'd suggest giving it a try d_m. A cit of toilet paper works too if you have no tissues.

On the other game my big triple chambered "love bong" doesn't have the problem of bong lip.
 
Awesome, I am at work at the minute but if it gets quiet I will go chop a small mix and try it with a tissue and report back. I guess in the end it is a pretty simple solution, in retrospect it is rather annoying something that has plagued me for years is solved so easily.

How often would one want to change the tissue? Every few cones or just every new session or what?

I have one last question, it occured to me that filtering the smoke in this manner may waste some THC. Would you say there is any noticeable drop in potency when you use a tissue to filter your smoke? I know when you use a cigarette to roll a joint and don't remove the filter it makes the already difficult feat of getting stoned off a joint impossible!
 
There's no noticeable drop in potency when filtering the smoke. I assume the thc gets through just fine. I have a friend who uses a rollie filter in her pipe with no problems.

We usually change the tissue when we clean the bong (when the water goes black or every 2 days).
 
Some mouthpieces with the right circumference suck your lips into the neck of the bong because of the vacuum created while ripping a cone. Ime these type of mouthpieces cause worse bong lip as the outside of your lips rub against the inside of the bong neck.

PD's explanation is probably more relevant however haha %)

Future smoking will mean this resin on the glass will cause more to stick there (the actual physical chemistry involved is a fair bit more complicated). Same thing happens with smoking crack cocaine - clean pipe, less loss to the glass. Similar things also happens with some fireplace chimneys, although the high temps often re-vapourise or burn away any resinous deposits before they can accumulate.
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So this explains why smoking out of a pristine clean bong hits you harder than a filthy one?
 
I have sort of noticed that the smaller diameter of the mouthpiece on the bong the more inclined it was to happen. This seemed logical because it is obviously the smoke causing the 'bong lip' and the smaller area the same amount of smoke passes over the more likely it is to condense into a gunk because it is more concentrated. Certain bongs definately cause it more than others.

Re-Distributed, on one hand it is reassuring to read you say it doesn't result in a drop in potency. I am however a little skeptical since you cite your friend using a cigarette filter in a hashpipe with no drop in potency. I used to carry a hashpipe on me at ALL times so I could always have a cone if I needed to, needless to say I am very experienced with them and I can assure you with 100% certainty putting a cigarette filter in a 'hashpipe' will reduce the effectiveness of your weed significantly.
 
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Re-Distributed, on one hand it is reassuring to read you say it doesn't result in a drop in potency. I am however a little skeptical since you cite your friend using a cigarette filter in a hashpipe with no drop in potency. I used to carry a hashpipe on me at ALL times so I could always have a cone if I needed to, needless to say I am very experienced with them and I can assure you with 100% certainty putting a cigarette filter in a 'hashpipe' will reduce the effectiveness of your weed significantly.
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I was TOLD there was no drop in potency, granted I haven't tried the filter in a pipe myself.

I'm a heavy bong smoker and have been for 10 years now. I've only recently (in the last 6 months) started using tissue to filter my bong and have not found any drop in potency, I still smoke the same amount.
 
^ Sick! Well I have just knocked off for a few so I am going to go and try this now. I will tell you man, your friend is so wrong its not funny. As my throat is very used to the harshness of hashpipes I find them nearly as effective as bongs because I can still pull a fairly large cone in one go. If I smoke one with a ciggie filter in it, it is pretty much comparable to joints in how difficult it is to achieve a real high.
 
drug_mentor said:
BTW Sublimit there is NO way I could switch to joints. After 8 years of smoking, heavy/daily for a significant period of that time I have quite a tolerance to weed. I have especially found since my break where I really abused the shit out of alcohol and benzo's being stoned feels a lot milder than it used to, even when I was previously smoking large amounts daily.

I remember back when I was smoking 3 grams of weed or more a day and one day me and my mate rolled a 2.5-3 gram blunt and shared it between us. Only took 10 minuts to smoke the whole thing and it honestly made us less stoned than the 6 bongs each we had a few hours earlier. Not dicksizing, just trying to illustrate exactly how wasteful joints are.

I don't know any regular smokers that could get truly stoned off a joint unless they were willing to roll up a ridiculous amount or the weed was as chronic as it comes. I struggle afford my daily bong habit, if I switched to joints I would break the bank very shortly.
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I should of clarified a bit more. I was in a similar situation as you in my bong smoking days, although i wasn't smoking a 3fa a day... more like 3gs every 2 days, but still was a fair amount.

Anyway when i made the switch i actually quite smoking for 5-6 months and then when i started again i used joints... at first i was sceptical but as time went on i fell in love with the whole art of the rolling and smoking of a joint. i find there to be so many more pros with joints, more sociable, smoking in public is very easy. and in general once i got over the rush onset of pulling a bong i got very comfortable with the more mellow and gentle onset of a joint.

If you were to lower your tolerance in the future then joints would be manageable for you i think... and believe me i don't think you want to be 30+ years old and still smoking cone after cone. I don't know how old you are but I believe you will have a different attitude as time goes by.

Funny thing happened when i was cleaning out my wardrobe a few months back... i found an old coat with bong lip stains on each wrist! made me laugh.
 
I've had this before, pretty rarely though out of all the bongs I smoke.

I always thought it was bits/traces of resin that had caked the inside of the stem and were getting pulled through (considering the amount you need to suck sometimes to pull a big cone).

Then after you made this thread, d_m, it got me thinking, could it perhaps have anything to do with the fact everytime you empty the bong (pouring the water out) tiny amounts of resin in the water may be left around the mouthpiece eventually drying there. And then when smoking another cone with your lips around the mouthpiece some of the resin may get onto your lips? It could be more pronounced sometimes because of having used the same water for a longer period of time.

I'm just speculating, I have no idea exactly what causes it.
 
I have had longish periods where I quit for various reasons and even with zero tolerance where 2 bongs would have me fried .6 or .7 in a joint smoked to myself would get me considerably less high.

I find smoking in public with a hashpipe very easy, I had/have(different one now) one about the size of my pinky finger which I used to carry at all times along with a little mix tin. I found so long as you can smoke the cones in one go it is pretty easy to smoke inconspicuously in bus stops and what not. In many years of smoking like that I never got busted. I reckon joints are risky, because for whatever reason they seem to have a more obvious/noticeable small.

Overall it is a dumb idea to smoke in public regardless of ROA, it is nearly impossible to get busted if you keep your drug consumption to private residences, doing drugs in public is a recipe for disaster.

I tried using the tissue earlier, at first I just made a film over the mouthpiece and it went very brown but I still got bong lip. When I doubled up the layers it worked a bit better but I also found it took more effort to pull the cone. I tried stuffing a wad in the bong and it definately makes it harder to pull and IMHO filtered out some THC.

I might experiment with some things other than tissue paper, but I am not sure this is the solution I was looking/hoping for.

Puck boy I am positive it is not that, because there are many times you can see it is clear. Also, usually after wiping the putrid shit from my mouth I also wipe the inside of the mouthpiece, so it is obviously something in the act of smoking that is causing it to occur.
 
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Interesting, yeah you're right, that makes sense it would be occurring during the inhale/exhale.

I hate the shit, especially when you don't realise it's there and then go and drink from a water bottle in the fridge that turns out to be your sisters and then having her complain to the family that the mouth of her water bottle tastes of burnt weed resin. That was hard to explain heh :\
 
Yeah, or just walking around with it on your lips and not realising. Or how weed makes your lips dry so you often lick them only to taste that shit, or ruin endless jumpers. It is fucked up. I love smoking bongs and this shit is probably the biggest drawback to me.
 
Ha ha ha ha! JEsus mentor! What problems you have haha..

Im still trying to figure out where you work that allows you access to a computer all the time it would seem have down periods where you can leave.. and also punch cones and come back to work.

Hmm! Where oh where..

haha but dude its because your pumping your boddy full OF THE FILTHY FUCKING SCUMMY TOBACCO man... cut that shit.. and your lips will be beautiful ! ;-)

every other bloke that smokes straight will tell you its the tobacco. Just look up man... guys smoking straight are sweet as..

it also helps if you smoke CHRONIC green mate..big help. I had to sadly smoke some of sydneys average bottom of the line shitty asian mass produced red haired shit the other day.. dirt weed... and every cone i had i got the bad bong lip. Never happens otherwise..

so there you go mate.

Pretty conclusive haha... good green MINUS tobacco .. your in for a treat mate.
 
every other bloke that smokes straight will tell you its the tobacco. Just look up man... guys smoking straight are sweet as..
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Anti tobacco sentiment is fine, but please don't post BS. Bong lip with straight smokers happens often. Adding tobacco may up the total volatiles produced, which in turn could make the effect more noticeable if the weed is a low oil strain.

it also helps if you smoke CHRONIC green mate..big help. I had to sadly smoke some of sydneys average bottom of the line shitty asian mass produced red haired shit the other day.. dirt weed... and every cone i had i got the bad bong lip. Never happens otherwise..
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That directly contradicts what you said above 8)

Any resinous strain will produce tar, and so the more resin, the more likelihood of a bong lip. Perhaps the strains you prefer are low tar producing varieties, but generally, high cannabinoid content = sticky buds, and the sticky stuff produces tar when burned.

It seems to me you smokers complaining of bong lip would be better off with low oil producing hemp strains =D ;) What about a hooker, with it's mouth piece? That might reduce the effect... or give you a coated tongue instead :\
 
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