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Bodyload comparisons RE the various 2c psychedelics

Si Dread

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Having only the briefest experience with 2c-t-2, a chem many seem to find has a heavy bodyload, I was wondering if any people with more experience than I would give me a comparative list, such as which 2c they found to have the least pleasant bodyload, & if any have little or no bodyload.

Personally, I found the bodyload on 2c-t-2 more then bearable, only a little annoying & roughly on a par with the many LSD & mushroom trips of the 80's & 90's.

Anyone want to give their side to this? Thanks :)
 
i find 2c-i too tense and energetic even at low doses.

2c-b, 2c-c and 2c-d seemed a lot milder but i haven't pushed the doses beyond starter level with those yet.
 
It's funny because my recent 2c-d experience (60mg) came with a pretty bad bodyload, contrary to reports. Muscles were quite tense and I was slightly nauseated a lot of the time.

I know that a lot of people find 2c-i to be hard on the body, but a recent insuffalated (slowly) 15mg dose had nearly no bodyload at all. Pure psychedelic fun.

In general all the 2c's make me feel like I have to shit, which is the worst aspect of their bodyload to me personally. But I always find it all bearable and worth the trip. I find it really interesting how much bodyload varies from person to person.
 
From what I've read/my own experience it seems like the body-load with 2c chemicals varies a lot from person to person. I found 2c-e's bodyload to be the worst (vomitting and horrible nausea that persists even after the purge) while I know plenty of people who have no problem with 2c-e. On the other hand 2c-i has never given me any trouble while I know some who get a lot of nausea from it. I guess there are certain 2c chems like t2 with more of a reputation for causing nausea, but it seems to me like it can vary a lot on an individual basis.
 
I've found 2C-E to have a comparatively light bodyload. It's a very neutral gray feeling chemical all around. Very classy. 2C-C has a nearly non-existent bodyload at normal doses, but I find myself to be particularly insensitive to 2C-C and there's a significant (though not terrible) level of nausea at 100mg+ levels.

I've never vomited on 2C-i but always feel very nauseated on the come up, and there's a very peculiar bodyload throughout the trip. 2C-i has a weird "entactogenic" feel to it. I felt a pleasurable buzz in the back of my neck and throughout my body. Although it felt nice, at the same time it felt wrong as if I were sick and on the edge of delirium. I also experienced a lot of muscle tension/jaw clenching.

I never felt overly nauseous on 2C-t-7 but have sworn off it due to an inconsolable sensation of having piss badly and constantly throughout the duration. As you can imagine, this makes a 10 hour trip rather confusing and unpleasant.
 
i have experience with 2c-e, 2c-t-7, and 2c-i

2c-e i have taken up to 15mg, with only once vomiting due to dosing on top of a hangover. the come-up is cold and jittery, but the physical body high during the peak and plateau is incredibly pleasurable and sensuous.

2c-t-7 only one experience at 20mg, no nausea and terrific body sensations. can't wait to try this one again.

2c-i a few low dose experiences and one trial at 24mg. had a few beers during the come-up, it actually helped channel the internal energy flow and allow easy burping instead of nausea/knotting in the gut. as of yet 2c-i is my absolute favorite psychedelic, and i think it can be as deep and valuable as mushrooms or LSD (assuming the psychonaut has certain intentions in mind) while still allowing a lighthearted sparkletrip in different situations.

if you have nausea problems with a 2c, first try a little bit of carbonated soda to help your body relax your gastro system and release gas. if that doesn't help, try a little herbal tea (ginger, peppermint, chamomile are all great). obviously combine these techniques with a change in scenery, lighting, or company to improve your psychosomatic condition.
 
Great advise & thanks to everyone who has replied.

I think the sensible thing is simply to try some of these things for myself, at regular doses & see how I feel about it. I can compare my feelings with that of the t2, which as has been said, is expected to have a heavy bodyload. I had 15mg, 10mg first followed by 5mg an hour later. The experience lasted all day, I started at 10am having not eaten since the night before. After a couple of hours however I struck by how good food smelled so decided to try eat. I was surprised how successful this turned out to be as I have never been able to eat on shrooms or LSD. I ate a small scrambled egg on toast, found that pretty easy, even enjoyable. Then just kept eating things & felt better & better for it, I didnt feel any nausea! I did feel a teeny bit quessy on the come-up, light-headed perhaps & little dizzy so would advise an empty stomach for t2, but I wouldnt fast for 14 hours like I did, I dont think that was necessary & only made me STARVING on the trip!

I will report on my next test which may be "e" or maybe "i", not sure yet. But it will be a few weeks coz I want a completely clean psyche between experiments.

Thanks again for replies people, keep 'em coming :)
 
Listening said:
It's funny because my recent 2c-d experience (60mg) came with a pretty bad bodyload, contrary to reports. Muscles were quite tense and I was slightly nauseated a lot of the time.

I know that a lot of people find 2c-i to be hard on the body, but a recent insuffalated (slowly) 15mg dose had nearly no bodyload at all. Pure psychedelic fun.

In general all the 2c's make me feel like I have to shit, which is the worst aspect of their bodyload to me personally. But I always find it all bearable and worth the trip. I find it really interesting how much bodyload varies from person to person.
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2C-D gave me a really strange body feeling too. I get a light floaty chest with most psychs, but this was a lot more intense and got quite uncomfortable at times.
 
with the 2t both myself & my gf felt an "elastic band around the chest" sorta feeling. I'm asthmatic, so I put it, in my case, down to psychosomatic reaction. This was backed by the fact that I could hold my breath well (which I cant do with asthma), & the fact that Salbutamol had no effect. I wondered at the time & since about why my gf felt the same thing, & wonder if I "put it in her head", for a few days. Anyway, she's on Amoxicyllin right now, for a cough she's had for about 2 months, so maybe thats why she also felt restricted round the lungs.

With LSD & shrooms, it's usually a stomach thing. I've felt a tense stomach & sometimes this is very uncomfortable. I felt the same on the t2... but only after scoffing loads of food Lol

I think the trick is to trip hard enough to ignore or be unaware of the side effects, but obviously not TOOOO much! Lol
 
First off,
I have no idea why people (Shulgin) mention that 2c-t-2 has a bodyload, 2c-i and 2c-e have much more of a body load, and are much more intense.

If anything, 2c-t-2 has taken the place of favorite Psych in my heart, above LSD and Mushrooms, I love being able to know exactly what I'm getting, and I love the stimulant nature of it.
 
You dont think, as I'm beginning to suspect, that this is purely individual subjectivity & that just because YOU find t2 suits you, it might be something else that suits, say, me?
 
2C-T-2 had HORRIBLE bodyload for me until i puked. then it was all good. 2C-E has had horrible nausea the few times ive taken it, and i recently tried 2C-B, no bodyload at all after the comeup (and my skin felt fucking great while tripping too..)
 
The first 3 times I tripped on 2c's, I had a pretty bad bodyload. The next three times, it was totally bearable, since then, I really don't notice it much, as I think its a combination of me knowing that it will come, and knowing what to expect. I actually enjoy the muscle twitches and so forth, its pleasurable.

But so much depends on if it will give you a body-load or not. Aside from the obvious, individual differences.
 
Hmm, well, the more well known 2C-x chems all vary widely in body load.

2C-E: can be horrible. Nausea and vomiting, shakes, massive stimulation...It can also be nothing like that.

2C-I: bit of nausea, nothing too severe though, lots of energy, lots of mongness too

2C-B: similar to 2C-I really, can upset the stomach, but seems generally benign.

2C-D: no real bodyload; maybe some nausea, and odd stimulation, but it can be quite relaxing. I find that I tremble quite badly on this chem though...

2C-C: psychedelic valium, according to some ;). Strong but pleasurable "sedation", no real nausea

2C-T-21: pretty wretched feeling, kinda like mescaline but without the knowledge that purging will fix it.

2-C-T7: fucking terrible. Vomiting, diarrohaea, smacked out feeling...

2C-P: quite sever at high doses, tension and anxiety caused by tension, nausea, pseudo-paralysis...

Of course, these are simply my own experiences; YMMV hugely with these drugs.

That said, nothing can top 5-MeO-AMT for a terrible body load. Soooooooo bad......DOB is pretty harsh too.
 
Good post, thanks Willow!

How about DOC as I may be able to get this shit at some point!?!
 
depends on the day of the week and the phases of the moon.. some times you get barely any body load other times u get loads

but generally i find 2cb the mildest and hot7 the worst
 
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