Bluelight didn't help me with harm reduction...

[F1n1shed]

I just think the usage of a larger variety of drugs is spread through this site. I remember when first came on this site i would look at all the people who post about their heroin and meth usage. And i would be like damn, you do heroin / meth your a fucking tard. But as i keep reading and seeing more and more posts of people who seem coherent and intelligent i feel as though its not as bad. And before i know it i escalated into using those both for a little while (clean now). I'm not saying its the websites fault for me using meth and H but i do feel as though it promotes the usage of more drugs in a subtle way, EVEN if it is in a harm reduction manner.

The point is people are picking up more drugs because they feel like they know the 'safe' way to do it, and everyone else is to.. so hell yea. And not to mention back a few years ago, all i would visit was the E discussion. And even the mods were spreading the misinformation of as long as you wait 1 month in between your rolls and eat healthy you will be fine. I followed those guidelines and fucked my self over big time, and it took months and months to recover. Who knows how far in recovery i've even gotten, if the correct information was given which is 3 months is the absolute minimum i would have saved my self a lot of damage.
You guys need to be real with your selves, this is a great site but there are a lot more drugs being taken by people because of this site.

 

[F1n1shed]

And fuck no , even if this site is promoting drug use keep it running i don't want it shut down at all! Im just keeping it real, but you want to know a harm reduction site. A REAL harm reduction site.. pillreports.com I've never owned a test kit and every pill i've ever taken has been on that site. With detailed reports on exactly how the person felt, and what their test showed for the pill. See the difference is with that site people are already set on dropping mdma. They have their pills ready and just want to know what the effects will be, so they read up and see which ones are dangerous pipes and which aren't. That's harm reduction at it's finest.

 

[Pill2Chill]

I remember when first came on this site i would look at all the people who post about their heroin and meth usage. And i would be like damn, you do heroin / meth your a fucking tard. But as i keep reading and seeing more and more posts of people who seem coherent and intelligent i feel as though its not as bad.

Yeah, I agree, this played a pretty big part in my former addictions. (I was a member of another forum back then, but it was about drugs & HR so basically the same.) It's pretty much the stereotypical junkie image that disappears because of BL. It also makes you realize addiction can happen to anyone. For me personally, I don't really think it's a bad thing, because it gets rid of the stigmas between the different drug scenes and it paints a way more realistic picture of users. Eventhough I respect everyone's, err, way of life, I know what drugs I can mess with now and which ones I need to leave be.

 

[gay.in.texas]

I hear people saying that harm reduction is increased occasionally. However, you cannot say that you guys weren't encouraged to use by coming onto Bluelight.

true, but we're drug addicts to begin with, and drug addicts are encouraged to use by almost anything, if it wasn't bluelight it would've been something else, chances are an junkie "friend" who's way less knowledgeable about how to do things safely, or we would have been "encouraged" by how pissed off a boss, family member, s.o., etc. had made us, and pushed the boundaries of our drug use for other reasons. i think addicts will be addicts and continue to push it no matter what, but the value of truly safe and practical information cannot be overstated

this is just my honest opinion on the subject, im not saying anyone else's is wrong

 

[Heroic]

This site does a better job than any government or health organization out there. Why? Because it's not full of shit. Deserves a golden medal.

 

[kaywholed]

BL helped me learn about different drugs and allowed me to dose properly and avoid drugs that would have had a negative impact on my life.

BL provided me with a support system for when I was unhappy and at risk of hurting myself.

 

[tokenname]

However, you cannot say that you guys weren't encouraged to use by coming onto Bluelight.

i can.
i haven't ever felt encouraged to use by coming here.
i know i've read some posts that have triggered my addiction before..
but that happens to me talking to a neighbor..or hearing a song..
or you know..breathing.
so..i don't really consider bl anything but hr.
even if it's just the social aspect of it.
hr doesn't necessarily have to mean the safest way to inject..
or the right dosage..
having a 'community' can greatly reduce the harm we'd do to ourselves..
knowing we didn't have a safe place to land.

 

[zdiddy]

I would venture that the mskority of people on here fall under two categories:
1: recovering addicts/users
2: people in the midst of addiction/use.

For me, it was number one. I have always had a large interest in drugs in general, and this site has a lot of like minded people on it, so it's a good place for people like me

 

[HighonLife]

it can go both ways n depends alot if not entirely on the individual

MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE: BL helped give me alot of good HR info in regards to drugs use, particularly with regard to opiates and mdma

when i joined i was already addicted to prescription opiates, i learned about CWEs here when i was still taking norcos n percs, unfortunately i was lazy a fair amount of the time, n didnt even like the miniscule opiate loss. as a kid in highschool i took xanax like nobodies business but after coming on BL n learning about the dangers of benzo addiction it opened my eyes to know i didnt want that, took tabs as a freshman in college, never tested just asked others what the thought bout them and would get answers like oh these are H based very good tabs 8) but after taking some time away from E and coming on BL i test everything i get, those are a few examples of the HR BL has helped me with

having said that like the OP said BL peaked my curiosity about alot of things, i heard about all these different opiates n decided they were like pokemon n i had to catch em all, i wanted to try fentanyl so bad and the 2nd or 3rd time i did i smoked it despite BL HR warnings not to and am lucky to still be here. i went from hydros n percs to Oxys hydromorphone fent, morphine, dope, methadone, etc, i wanted to try em all and even today just over 1.5 years clean from opiates i still wish i woulda been able to try oxymorphone and have added it to my "been done" list

also not on the same scale but BL has influenced this same mentality with me and psychadelics, at one point i thought i had pretty much 'dont it all' as far as psychs are concerned. i had done mushrooms, cacti, salvia and what i was told was LSD. and then it was like oh DMT right right, oh the 2c's well i gotta try all those too, oh 4 ho tryptamines and 5 meo tryptamines i should prob get on those too. then it was oh Ketamine, MXE now i just need to find some PCP

right now i have a psych stash that i dont even know what to do with, it will take forever for me to do these all. right now i have: Ketamine, MXE, MDMA, LSD, Mushrooms, DMT, 4 Aco DMT, 4 HO MET, 4 HO MIPT, 5 Meo MIPT, 2ce, 6 apb, sure some i only have a little bit of but some i have more then i know what to do with,

obviously i dont see this gotta do em all attitude with psychs as destructive as with opiates but it isnt good, it wastes money and keeps me thinking about drugs instead of more important stuff.

this isnt BL fault of course tho

its a tight rope to walk

BL is good for some reasons and its not good for certain reasons, you cant say BL is all good or all bad, just depends on the user, but overall i think BL is a good thing. the internet is similar to drugs in that respect, you gotta use it responsibly

 

[Renz Envy]

Dude you're still alive. Quit complaining.

 

[spacejunk]

as lenny bruce said, "a knowledge of syphilis is not an instruction to get it"
think of bluelight as a remedy for drug war propaganda - not pro-drug propaganda. there are lots of other forums out there.
i would say an interest in drugs brought you here.
plus, there are plenty of sections of bluelight that do not allow drug discussion. desires need to be there in the first place if they are to be triggered.

 

[Ninae]

In my mind, it's 50/50, or have both a light and dark side like most things. Or it gives you the opportunity for both. Only it's much more used to learn about drug use than avoiding the harmful effects of it, so in practice it's more like 90/10. But that is only natural on a site for drug-users, I guess. It's primarily going to attract people interested in using drugs. So I guess this is the best that can be done.

A forum focusing mainly on the harmful effects of drugs would be something completely different and attract a whole other crowd of people so wouldn't actually be helpful to drug-users. While this one for sure can do us both harm and good. I'm sure all the information about different substances, where to get them, and how to use them have led to many deaths and other disasters. So maybe it equals itself out, or the positive effects just about make up for the negative ones.

But never mind this board, the internet in itself has definitely made drugs much more generally available and has got to be more used. So I don't think closing down this board in itself would make much difference. It's just that it's the best resource out there which makes it look really bad.

 

[laCster]

hmm, i like this topic. i have to agree that learning about drugs made me want to 'guinea pig' myself and experiment with drugs more. it also lead me to try drugs i would never know about unless of this site, opiates, benzos, stims, but mainly RC's. i would have never been introduced to MXE without BL

i do also find that if i go on BL sober, it makes me want to do drugs even more because i hear of all these super combos and shit. i only usually come on BL high, but it does help me alot with questions, and BL is the only reputable and reliable drug forum IMO and IME. i have tried others, but nothing is as good as BL