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Bluelight and the Aussie Internet Filter – Will it affect us?

belarki

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Juvenile said:
No doubt this will fuel the (very small) fire for Chairman Rudds internet filter. Shock horror people talking about illegal things on the internet is "unwanted" by CONroy. ....
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The problem is Bluelight could very easily be added the the list of unwanted sites and hence blocked.
 
belarki said:
The problem is Bluelight could very easily be added the the list of unwanted sites and hence blocked.
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Actually I have been looking into the issue and it wouldn't be easy for them to do this. This is to do with the way the laws are currently set up. I'll post more about this in the future.
 
Thanks Johnboy, I'm following the internet filter thing pretty closely so any info on what Stephen Conroy can and cannot get away with is always welcome :)
 
johnboy said:
Actually I have been looking into the issue and it wouldn't be easy for them to do this. This is to do with the way the laws are currently set up. I'll post more about this in the future.
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Really? I was under the impression bluelight could easily fall foul of the filter.

Conroy has already admitted the ACMA blacklist contains "unwanted" material as well as illegal material. So regardless of what the judgement is for the legality discussing drug use, the wowsers could easily complain about it to the ACMA and get their way all the same. After that the blacklist is top secret and from what I have seen so far there is no method proposed to contest the blacklisting of a site.

On the plus side its not hosted here so the site its self will be untouched. Plus the filter will be so easy to bypass with a proxy that it begs belief why Rudd is pushing forward with it.

I wonder if we would still get news articles like this if bluelight was blacklisted? Or perhaps news.morons wouldnt be allowed to bypass the thought control internet censorship even for research purposes.
 
I have wondered myself about whether bluelight will be affected by the bullshit internet filter they want to install. I also wondered if this filter could be bypassed entirely by logging into a proxy-server based in a different country?
Bluelight wouldn't be the first source of harm reduction labelled by the Government to be "sending the wrong message to our youths about the dangers of drug abuse" or shit to that effect.
 
I didn't think they were going to pass that filter anyway.

But if they did, I imagine Bluelight would almost definately be a candidate for blocking.
 
Alot of taxes go to the government for internet usage ....

if they blocked sites like this and torrent sites then people would not pay the $$ we are now ..

Circumvention

There are a number of resources that allow users to bypass the technical aspects of Internet censorship. Each solution has differing ease of use, speed, and security from other options.

Proxy websites

Main article: Proxy server

Proxy websites are often the simplest and fastest way to access banned websites in censored nations. Such websites work by being themselves un-banned but capable of displaying banned material within them. This is usually accomplished by entering a URL address which the proxy website will fetch and display. They recommend using the https protocol since it is encrypted and harder to block.

Java Anon Proxy

Java Anon Proxy is primarily a strong, free and open source anonymizer software available for all operating systems. As of 2004[update], it also includes a blocking resistance functionality that allows users to circumvent the blocking of the underlying anonymity service AN.ON by accessing it via other users of the software (forwarding client).[citation needed]

The addresses of JAP users that provide a forwarding server can be retrieved by getting contact to AN.ON's InfoService network, either automatically or, if this network is blocked, too, by writing an e-mail to one of these InfoServices. The JAP software automatically decrypts the answer after the user completes a CAPTCHA. The developers are currently[citation needed] planning to integrate additional and even stronger blocking resistance functions.

Virtual Private Networks (VPNs)

Using Virtual Private Networks, a user who experiences internet censorship can create a secure connection to a more permissive country, and browse the internet as if they were situated in that country. Some services are offered for a monthly fee, others are ad-supported.

Psiphon

Psiphon software allows users in nations with censored Internet such as China to access banned websites like Wikipedia. The service requires that the software be installed on a computer with uncensored access to the Internet so that the computer can act as a proxy for users in censored environments.[citation needed]

Tor

Tor is a free software implementation that allows users to bypass Internet censorship while granting strong anonymity (though it has its weaknesses).

Sneakernets

Sneakernet is a term used to describe the transfer of electronic information, especially computer files, by physically carrying data on storage media from one place to another. A sneakernet can move data regardless of network restrictions simply by not using the network at all.[3]

The volunteer organization Information Without Borders is attempting to implement a sneakernet routing protocol for providing cheap Internet access to developing and post-conflict regions using donated flash drives, PDAs and mobile phones. The protocol is also useful for providing free and open Internet access to people living under repressive regimes that restrict free expression by limiting access.[4] This protocol is still under development, but actual flash-drive sneakernets are known to exist in Cuba. Flash-drive sneakernets were used in 2008 to distribute a video of a student asking why Cubans are not permitted to access web sites like Yahoo.

http://www.overclockers.com.au/wiki/Australian_Internet_Filtering

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Australia

Filters cause a delay and very slow response up to 22% which us aussies will scream about as our speeds are SHIT compared to europe and the states..
 
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Anyone with any IT/CS knowledge would know that the technical aspects of this filtering system was/is doomed to fail from the start. No matter which path you choose; whitelist, blacklists, pattern matching, etc. Quite pathetic for the Government to assume they could feasibly accomplish this. Not only them thinking on their side that it could be done, but also that fact that they believe that it couldn't be easily circumvented. kingping's post is a prime example. I'm sure it didn't make long for him to come up with that list, and it's only a few ways which are out there.
I know, personally if this were to be put into place I will have no hesitations help my "non-tech-savvy" friends bypassing this piece of shit!
 
Thanks to KingPin and technoharmony for their contributions to both dodging and protesting the filter. :D

drug mentor said:
I have wondered myself about whether bluelight will be affected by the bullshit internet filter they want to install. I also wondered if this filter could be bypassed entirely by logging into a proxy-server based in a different country?
Bluelight wouldn't be the first source of harm reduction labelled by the Government to be "sending the wrong message to our youths about the dangers of drug abuse" or shit to that effect.
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For what it's worth, in one of the articles I read in The Courier Mail (rag) and possibly The Australian (I like this one actually) they mentioned that sites containing violent material or instructions on how to use drugs would fall under the filter. As soon as I read that I thought liveleak and BlueLight. :\
 
Regarding the clean feed issue. (this is getting pretty off topic, maybe it should be split off?)

I won't touch the technical side of things. Other people here are doing a good job of it. I'll just run through some of the political elements.

What has been said in the media about the proposals for using the filters to cover all "illegal" material is wrong. Even the statements made by politicians themselves, especially Minister Conroy, have had little or no connection to reality.

Under current laws the only material that can be added to filters is child pornography. To broaden this to cover other material would require complete redrafting of the laws. It would be very very difficult for the Government to pass such a law.

So why did he say it? Mainly because he is an idiot. And, sadly for him, at the time this all blew up his major adviser on this issue was on holidays. The poor Minister was having to answer tough questions without a cheat sheet. This is what I have heard from very reliable sources.

This doesn't mean we can ease up the pressure on the Government to drop this ridiculous idea. It is flawed in so many ways and they need to be shown that it just isn't acceptable to even consider such a dangerous precedent. But rest assured that you aren't going to wake up one day and find Bluelight "gone".
 
what annoys me is that is whole 'LETS FILTER THE INTERNET LOLZ!' idea started off in australia as a way for aussie households to apply some sort of basic censorship if parents were concerned about their kids using the internet. it started off as an opt in-opt out dealie where you could say whether or not you wanted your connection filtered. it seems it's turned into another way for the fuzz to restrict our internet entertainment. (if you remember correctly the howard government made a heap of filtration software free, then got egg on it's face when kids were simply going around it because it's just a futile endeavour.)

slightly off topic, but to my way of thinking parents should just take responsibility and supervise their children's internet usage themselves instead of expecting the government to do it. hell, maybe even instil some values in your children while you're at it mum and dad, exciting concept that one.
 
^^It didn't start in Australia, China have a MASSIVE firewall in place here's the list of sites blocked
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China

You can also get arrested for posting things they really don't like.

This is the first I have heard of this, that's fucked I thought the Australian government were better than this!

This is really a breach of freedom I'm really quiet shocked!
 
There going to be running a trial of it at some point i believe, it was suppose to go into effect on the 24th December, 2008. But it was delayed because of a minister.

A few ISP's put there hand up to take part, but have stated its in an effort to prove this method of restricting websites isn't going to work.

Either way, there'll be work arounds.. dont worry too much :) It is bullshit none the less.
 
There are already Australian companies cashing in on this before it has even been passed as law. They even advertise themseklves as anonymous stealth adult content browsing software and pre-paid ISPs.

ctunnel.com works to get past my ISP's shitty (at peak times) youtube filter.
 
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