yes, this is long; i responded to everyone who spoke to or about me. if you dislike the length or content of my posts, feel free to ignore me.
fishinabottle said:
You are by definition not qualified to tell this. What a piece of nonsense.
what do you mean by saying "by definition" i'm "not qualified" to say what i said? the official dictionary definition is "the peak of sexual excitement, characterized by strong feelings of pleasure and by a series of involuntary contractions of the muscles of the genitals, usually accompanied by the ejaculation of semen by the male". so men don't have to ejaculate to have an orgasm, but they usually do, and if they do, it is part of an orgasm. therefore, if you ejaculate, you have experienced an orgasm. (to put a finer point on it, the official defintion of ejaculation is "the expulsion of seminal fluid from the urethra of the penis during orgasm".) what i said is that if you ejaculate, you have had an orgasm. this is documented fact. how am i not qualified to say something that is factually true? bear in mind that i said nothing about how satisfying an orgasm is individually depending on circumstances; that's a matter of personal opinion. however, it is inarguable fact that if a man ejaculates, he has had an orgasm, and i am "qualified" to repeat documented facts, so i fail to understand what you've said.
beamers said:
I don't know if you've ever gone down on a woman and understand the mechanics of it, but when you repeatedly lick something that is constantly producing juice plenty of it gets all over your tongue and then into your mouth.
i've said more than once that i am bisexual and have gone down on women; how can you say you don't know? we've discussed this fact. but just to be safe, let me remind you again: i am bisexual. i have gone down on women. given my experience in that department and the fact that i am a woman myself, i do understand the mechanics, as you put it. i understand how things work when you go down on a woman. yes, we produce liquid consistently, sometimes in rather large amounts (obviously that varies depending on the woman) and it's virtualy impossible to not swallow some of that or at least get it in your mouth. i also realize that some people dislike the taste and that some women taste worse than others do... i don't claim in any way that giving a woman head is easier or more pleasurable, etc. than giving a man head. however, barring a few exceptions, women do not ejaculate in that we do not forcibly expel fluids during an orgasm; we release plenty of fluid, but not in the same manner as a man -- that is to say that the gag reflex isn't an issue with women like it is with men. sucking dick or eating cunt can be equally tiresome, unpleasant in taste, etc., but for those with sensitive gag reflexes, obviously a male ejaculation is more likely to be problematic than a female one.
also, not all men (or women) actually swallow a woman's fluids; plenty just allow it to fall (dribble?) out of their mouths back onto the woman. this not only prevents the need to close their mouth/pause to swallow (not everyone can swallow open-mouthed while also not pausing), but adds lubrication to the woman. so it's optional, just like with a man.
beamers said:
I mean think about it we sometimes actually stick our tongues INSIDE your vagina.
that is a choice some people make. if they dislike it, they can choose to not do it, plain and simple. also, i can't speak for all women, of course, but IMO, "tongue fucking" is ridiculous. it's clit action that does the job, for one... for another, many women can't get off from just intercourse (due to the lack of clitoral stimulation). if your dick can't do it, it's not likely your tongue can; it can't even reach the g-spot. i know a lot of girls who can't stand when people do that. but bottom line, if you do that, you do it because you chose to.
beamers said:
If you are going to sit there and say "ew cocks are gross" then in keeping with that same perspective vaginas aren't by any means peaches and cream..
i've never said anything about cocks being gross; feel free to check. cocks are not gross (well, some can be, but any man who has decent hygiene doesn't tend to have a gross cock). if i thought they were gross, i wouldn't suck them, fuck them, touch them, etc. i do all of the above. cocks are not gross, and i never said they were, so either you're misunderstanding me, or you think i said something i didn't. i've also said repeatedly that vaginas aren't perfect; it can be just as unpleasant to some people to lick a twat as it can be for some to suck a dick. neither is better or worse than the other, it's about preference. i said that already, too.
beamers said:
Also, if it's such a big deal to you then don't do it, if she didn't do it it's not like we'd throw a tantrum on the spot, there's other ones out there. No one here is forcing anyone to do anything. There's just a general preference amongst guys and if you've just found out that you don't fit this preference then that's up to you to deal with, we have our opinions/preferences on sex.
Go find someone that fits your particular band on the sexual fantasy continuum, don't try to judge us, we aren't forcing you to do anything. Find someone that you are suited to, you won't change us to suit you.
how many times must i repeat myself? i give head. i swallow sometimes. if i hated it i wouldn't do it. is this somehow unclear?
it's been said that if a woman doesn't swallow, then she's not worth keeping. that's not forcing her to do anything, true, but it's saying "swallow or you're gone". that's not just mean and demeaning, it puts someone in a position where they are forced to make a choice -- swallow or get dumped. so while you're not forcing the act directly, you are forcing something, and that is a choice no one should have to make. no one should feel like everything else they have to offer in a relationship, sexually or otherwise, is worthless if they don't swallow. this is my opinion. you and others here have judged me (however incorrectly); i have only done the same. i have the right to judge what i read here and voice that judgment, just like you do. please don't tell me not to do something perfectly within my rights, especially since you have repeatedly done the same thing -- only more harshly and more incorrectly -- if you can say what you want, i can do the same. and i judge only this one opinion you have -- you judge my entire sex life and more.
also, many men do prefer women to swallow, but "general preference" is a bit strong; neither of us know enough men on the planet to say that, and i know plenty of men who don't have that preference and plenty who do, but don't place so much weight upon it.
lacey k said:
Some women actually enjoy giving head and wouldnt do it if they didnt want to. if you do not enjoy the idea of givin head to guy, if it dont turn you on, if it aint something you enjoy giving just as much as getting, or as you put it "its not like were getting anything out of it" 8(, well shit, aint no need to be acting like every woman is as grudgingly accepting as you and we all just do it to be nice. speak for yourself man it aint no fuckin chore. %)
i have said repeatedly that i do give head and do enjoy it; i like giving my boyfriend pleasure. i swallow sometimes, but not always, depending on my mood. i also never implied that all or most women felt the same way as i do -- in fact, i never claimed that about anyone other than myself. a few people did agree, and i know people who agree, but i never spoke for anyone but myself. everything you said here was incorrect; i do give head, i do enjoy it for the most part, and i never said anyone else felt the same way i do, just shared my feelings -- mostly in a joking manner, to boot.
kittyinthedark said:
I frankly just don't understand the point of not swallowing. It's already in your mouth...
i never spit. if it's in my mouth, i swallow every time. if i do not want to swallow, i have my boyfriend shoot elsewhere (on me, generally -- which he and many men enjoy). just to clear that up.
fishinabottle said:
And here I call it out: BULLSHIT.
I am not intrested in you, your piercings or whatever a 15 year old may make up. 15 year old male. Of course. What else.
To the point: I still decide for myself how my orgasm are like, how I want and expect my partners to do or not and all this.
I am not thankful for anything as I give and receive.
The biggest problem is that men don´t really accept their own sexuality but reduce themselves to "whateverbeavers" ideas or porn-non-sense.
Get some life.
Get some quality into it.
Love yourself.
what's bullshit? that i think men should appreciate a blowjob, no matter what? that's not bullshit; it's my opinion. yours is different. it's not "bullshit". we are entitled to our opinions, and agree or not, neither of us is right or wrong.
what are you babbling about with 15-year-old boys making things up? are you implying that i'm a teenage boy? is that supposed to be insulting? i'm a woman, and i'll be 26 in just over a week. and given that most of what i've said here is my opinion, what do you think i "made up"?
i am in no way trying to tell you what your sexual preferences should be. however, it is my opinion that we all are entitled to choices and should respect that in others... i don't think it's fair to "expect" a partner to do whatever i want. they're people. we don't own them. you're entitled to wanting something a certain way, so why is your partner not entitled to the same thing? you say it's okay since you give as well as receive... are you honestly saying that since you give women head, they have to swallow in order to return the favor? and if they give you head but don't swallow, you're not appreciative? to each their own, but to me, that's just awful. not swallowing doesn't negate the fact that you got a blowjob and had an orgasm, but you seem to think a woman deserves no appreciation for her efforts unless she swallows. again, you have the right to feel that way, but i have the right to disagree; no man i've been with (or that i know, for that matter, at least those i've talked to) thinks the way that you do, or if they do they don't show it. every woman i know would drop a man immediately if he actually demanded any sexual act and/or said that she wasn't good enough or would be dumped if she didn't comply. i don't speak for all women, but the women i know would agree that to have to perform any particular sexual act or be considered not good enough is demeaning and shows a lack of self-respect on their part. this is, again, just my opinion and the opinion of a few others; you and i have equal right to feel a certain way and to say so.
as for life and its quality, what do you base my lack of life and quality of life on? you know virtually nothing about my life, and quality is subjective. what makes life good for one person may be totally opposite from what makes it good for someone else. i have a great life. i love myself very much (and IMO, not submitting to anyone's will is part of that self-love). who are you to say otherwise?
gurry said:
Ratherbewater said she was leaving...I wish she would. Im a guy, I like spewing my cum deep inside any readily available oriface on a womans body...ear included (ex girlfriend asked me to...dunno why..she seemed to enjoy having my babys on the brain though)
sorry. it's too entertaining and oddly fascinating to see what people have to say about me simply because i don't swallow 100% of the time and think it's fucked up to judge anyone based on something so ultimately unimportant. (in the big picture of life, that is.) i'll stop posting here when i feel like it; i have the same rights here as all of you do, and if you dislike my posts, why not ignore me? i wish people on BL would go away, too, but i also realize that they can post what they want just like everyone else; i accept that and move on and ignore posts i dislike. talking about me incessantly (i'm referring to several people) isn't going to make me go away; if someone talks about me, and i have something to say, i say it. just like they did. just like you did. no one here is obligated to read or reply to my posts. if you dislike them so much you wish i'd go away, why even pay attention to them?
bottom line, my initial point was that giving a guy head isn't the easiest or always the most fun thing in the world. that's my opinion. it then went on and on due to what others said about women in general (i.e, that if they don't swallow they're worthless) and about me personally (i'm a prude, etc.) if someone attacks me verbally or says something untrue about me, i will respond to that. if i have an opinion, i will share it. and it's amusing (and oddly captivating) to see so many people saying so much about me, especially when it's mostly blatant bullshit about me and my life, or people saying they don't care/aren't interested/etc. in my posts yet read and reply anyway. i don't like what's said here by some people, but i respect everyone's rights to share what they think and say what they want to; like it or not, i have the same rights, and if you dislike what i say, then either ignore it, or accept the fact that i can and will reply to what you say about me.
and the absurd "insults" are too good to resist.
but eating out a girl isnt the most fun excercise in the world either.
