Blotter test results from ecstasydata.org

[my3rdeye]

FYI

Energy control in Spain doing some summer testing. Scary Hoffman print could LSD or nbome and they both look the same.

http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php?source=10&y1=2013

And the dolphins are 75 micrograms, I heard people quote insane vendor numbers on those

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2913

Same with Gandalfs

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2911


People need to accept the reality. Your average hit is 75 micrograms, on both sides of Atlantic. That awesome stuff the vendor said was 200 mics is still awesome. Its just 75 micrograms.

 

[EarthBounded]

People need to accept the reality. Your average hit is 75 micrograms, on both sides of Atlantic. That awesome stuff the vendor said was 200 mics is still awesome. Its just 75 micrograms.

I'll accept the reality that my fluff tabs are 95µg every single time I get them.

Not all of us get our L from EU.

Local connections are better

 

[kidklmx]

Talk about dosage when you get your tabs tested, EarthBounded. Otherwise just use terms like strong, average and weak or whatever.

 

[my3rdeye]

Just saying the Euro doses I have had have been same strength as N American ones. I am not saying you don't have 95, just that all these people who think they have 200 mic hits based on what a vendor said are way off. It's a little dangerous because you have people who took 250 mics and think that it was 500 and now they can handle anything. People like that are in for a big shock if they actually take 500. Every time when these come out someone is shocked the hits they thought were over a 100 were 40.

 

[kidklmx]

Best way to go if you really like acid is to just save up and get a vial, IMO. It's much cheaper per hit, and when you get it tested you actually know your dosages (which you should anyway). Might have to resort to the RCs in the meantime, but it's totally worth it

 

[EarthBounded]

Might have to resort to the RCs in the meantime, but it's totally worth it

Terrible advice.

Talk about dosage when you get your tabs tested, EarthBounded. Otherwise just use terms like strong, average and weak or whatever.

You don't need to send in your tabs to some lab to talk about dosage, some of us are old school here and get our LSD domestically. If you really think you need to mail your tabs to find out whats on them you obviously have never met a real connection in the business.


OP you may be right about the " average " but that is assuming your an average LSD buyer... I also believe EU does put out some stronger hits right now but boy do I love my fluff!

 

[Help?!?!]

^Would you knock it off, seriously. No one knows, your supplier probably lied to you, stop acting as if your getting fluff and the greatest hits ever you probably have no idea what your getting, unless that is your hang out in your LSD chemists house/watch them lay it.8) Quit deluding yourself. A hit over 120mcgs is a once in a blue moon sort of batch. I mean does a hit even need more than that anyways?

 

[kidklmx]

Yeah, the 4-subs are such terrible, dangerous psychedelics. Seriously having a vial is a much better solution (dat pun.) for the rest of us, so why not save some money instead of buying loads of blotter?

(And I'd only trust the person selling me blotter if he was my friend and layed them himself or something)

 

[EarthBounded]

Yeah, the 4-subs are such terrible, dangerous psychedelics. Seriously having a vial is a much better solution (dat pun.) for the rest of us, so why not save some money instead of buying loads of blotter?

(And I'd only trust the person selling me blotter if he was my friend and layed them himself or something)

IMHO Vials stink to deal with because you can drop them or tip them over. Plus blotter is way easier to bring into a show or in your car ( cut a small slit in the fabric under the belt loops of your pant, most pants will have a small grove you can shove up to 500 hits in there and a security guard or cop can never, feel them, the groove is just big enough to stick one finger in, but if you have your tabs separated you can just pop out one at a time )

^Would you knock it off, seriously. No one knows, your supplier probably lied to you, stop acting as if your getting fluff and the greatest hits ever you probably have no idea what your getting, unless that is your hang out in your LSD chemists house/watch them lay it.8) Quit deluding yourself. A hit over 120mcgs is a once in a blue moon sort of batch. I mean does a hit even need more than that anyways?

When did I ever say anything about 120mcg? Anyone in a real LSD circle would laugh at you buddy sounds like you need some real Help!?!?!
Quit denying there is an actual LSD source in America. Not all chemist's sell out to SR or similar avenues.

 

[kidklmx]

IMHO Vials stink to deal with because you can drop them or tip them over.

Oh I hear you.. *Goes crying in a corner* That's a mistake you'll only make once though!

I just like the ability to have the exact dosages I want, I'm not "in the scene" so what I'll get is spotty at best and probably ~70ug. Could be even worse, getting NBOMes or whatever. If I payed LSD prices and got an NBOMe then I'd cry (again!).

For shows and easy dosing you could just drop some sugarcubes or gummybears or whatever beforehand, pretty much a non-issue.

 

[LSD Cruiser]

One of the prints it says is 123 micrograms. Looks like the old Alex Grey batch everyone misinformed as LSB and I recall telling you all a few years back the GC/MS looked like LSD to me. Online I remember that one being advertised as 175 micrograms.

Moral of the story - if you've never had crystal LSD measured by you yourself, there's no point in guessing dosage because you'll be wrong every time. :D

 

[Anon0631]

I'll accept the reality that my fluff tabs are 95µg every single time I get them.

You don't need to send in your tabs to some lab to talk about dosage, some of us are old school here and get our LSD domestically. If you really think you need to mail your tabs to find out whats on them you obviously have never met a real connection in the business.

How old are you earthbounded? Most of us stop playing the "my drugs are better than yours" game around the time we start growing pubic hair.

For everyone else: please don't be swayed by this chest thumping. Do whatever you can to inform yourself about the link between dosage and subjective effects. That way you'll better know your comfort zone and limits. This applies to all drugs.

 

[my3rdeye]

A hit over 120mcgs is a once in a blue moon sort of batch. I mean does a hit even need more than that anyways?

I think that hits close to a 100 should be the standard anyway. Less people freaking out then in the 60s when hits averaged 250. Emergency rooms were full of bad trips in the 60s. People who want a bigger dose can just take more than one anyway.

Quit denying there is an actual LSD source in America. Not all chemist's sell out to SR or similar avenues.

No one said that. There is lots of domestic LSD in North America. I have never even bought a hit online. I do browse them though and think the numbers quoted are way off based on my own experience and test results like these. And the few euro hits I tried were around the same strength as the ones I get here. I am sure there are super doses out there, it's just not the norm. And no matter how old school you think you are its impossible to say how much is on your tabs unless they were lab tested. I know I have LSD, I know it's good and I have an estimate, but I don't know anything unless I sent it to a lab. Your dealer giving you a number is no different than the people buying online quoting a vendor there.

 

[kidklmx]

^Especially when all the dosages you ever had were overestimated, there's just no baseline for you to have an educated guess. People greatly underestimate the potency of LSD too, 50-70ug is much more active than you might think though not very visual.

Btw, there's a group of people on the forums of that site and they lab-test blotter so you actually know what you're getting. More of a review on the vendor than exact dosages on blotter, but their average estimates per vendor seem a lot more probable than what's quoted on the storefront.

And yeah, huge dosed blotter does exist but if you land upon it then you're just very lucky. Just a random guess, but I'm sure that the amount of blotter with more than 120ug on them is less than 1%

 

[Help?!?!]

When did I ever say anything about 120mcg? Anyone in a real LSD circle would laugh at you buddy sounds like you need some real Help!?!?!
Quit denying there is an actual LSD source in America. Not all chemist's sell out to SR or similar avenues.

You didn't, I did, fool.... Of course there's LSD sources in the US, there LSD sources in nearly all major countries, I was just saying you and your "fluff" are most likely inflated bullshit unless you hang out with the "fluff" layers and watch them lay each at "90mcg" or you've had your "fluff" tested at and it indeed returned at 90mcgs per hit.....but i'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you didn't...... Also will be receiving help?!?! very soon, thanks for the push!

No one said that. There is lots of domestic LSD in North America. I have never even bought a hit online. I do browse them though and think the numbers quoted are way off based on my own experience and test results like these. And the few euro hits I tried were around the same strength as the ones I get here. I am sure there are super doses out there, it's just not the norm. And no matter how old school you think you are its impossible to say how much is on your tabs unless they were lab tested. I know I have LSD, I know it's good and I have an estimate, but I don't know anything unless I sent it to a lab. Your dealer giving you a number is no different than the people buying online quoting a vendor there.

Dude's he's like probably totally apart of the "family"! So he knows....

 

[flat-line]

IMHO Vials stink to deal with because you can drop them or tip them over.

I never liked vials, people used to always use the food coloring vials and they would leak in your pocket. They would never last because you would be giving people small puddles and they would tell friends that would want one. All the sudden you are the guy with "The Vial" "Mad Doser".
Tabs you can eat a couple than put them in the freezer.

 

[EarthBounded]

How old are you earthbounded? Most of us stop playing the "my drugs are better than yours" game around the time we start growing pubic hair.

Old enough to not make comments like this, I haven't once said that my drugs are better than anyones, I actually said Europe pumps out stronger hits then here in the USA.

I hope you guys send in all your Nbomes/DOx to get lab tested! I don't see you people jumping down everyones throat when they say that they took 800mcg of 25I-Nbome ( Example ). So why do you harp on LSD users?

WOW the word fluff really disturbs you guys By the way yes you freaks I don't really mess around anymore however when I did I got my tabs from a person that laid it themselves. I don't travel anymore however if I scoop L it is from the same group that knows that "person".

Anon seriously come to the USA and see the scene for yourself, until then please stop attacking all my post's. If you really want to discuss something then politely PM me, you are proving to be a rude mongrel.

No one said that. There is lots of domestic LSD in North America.

That comment was not directed at you OP I know you were just trying to throw out some helpful results.

Dude's he's like probably totally apart of the "family"! So he knows....

Yup and we get needlepoint once a year around christmas time Which we all know is refined fluff! ( gotta love sarcasm)

 

[Solipsis]

But you did say you didn't need to get your LSD lab tested because your source is that good or somewhere along those lines. Which is all very well and we congratulate you, but when push comes to shove you are relying on trust and hearsay. And hearsay is exactly the issue: the LSD is always better according to hearsay than according to the lab tests. That is what people mean, and that is the point you ought to defend.
It's not about whether we believe you have good LSD or not, for all we know you are soaked with the stuff... it's about how people arrive at conclusions, whether their claims are logically sound and validated by empirical data.

Now @everyone knock it off with the ad hominem stuff, offense and defense on the topic of source reputations and associated regions... and other irrelevant arguments (esp @EB here) that so very often spiral into full on debates about the old-school classical psychedelics vs. the new or fully synthetic ones. We have threads on that, please post your elaborate plea advocating your D.O.C. there. Because I'm getting a little tired of seeing stuff derail and go off-topic because RC's irk you regardless of whether you have good points on the matter or not, which you very well might sometimes. (P.S. don't worry - I'll still address the feedback thread etc later)

 

[kidklmx]

I hope you guys send in all your Nbomes/DOx to get lab tested! I don't see you people jumping down everyones throat when they say that they took 800mcg of 25I-Nbome ( Example ). So why do you harp on LSD users?

While potency is not anywhere near the quoted 99% most of the time, it's still very acceptable in that it doesn't really affect dosages very much. With LSD, however, you're not buying a powder you weigh for yourself (would if I could lol :D). You're getting tabs that someone has made, which are known to contain much less than the advertised dosage. Same goes for ecstasy pills, or a pack of Amph (which even over here in Holland is complete shit, purity-wise), just test it if you want to talk about dosage. Until then you're guessing based off of dosages that are inflated, just so that it sounds more valuable. What you might think to be 95ug, could really just be 70ug. Not saying that that's the case necessarily, but you never know

And there's a bunch of enthusiasts that do an NMR or GC-MS on the substances they get. If purity was a big issue, which would cause dosages to be lower than you think, then those people would throw that info out there. With MXE, for example, there's a huge variance in quality and it's not that hard to find the vendors with the better product if you do a bit of searching.

 

[Liquid Sunshine]

There were quite a few fairly stacked pills, jeez.