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Opioids Blood clots from pullback on plunger if not injected quickly enough?

Monsieur

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So yeah, I'm a relative newbie to shooting up, with most of my times someone doing it for me.

I have 3 oxies left and I am taking a break for a while but I have a lot of homework (college) to catch up on before I start this withdrawal BS so I need these to go as far as they can.

They are only 15mgs and I have a pretty high oral tolerance so I don't expect to get too blasted even from shooting them all. I just need to NOT be sick while partaking in this cram session. Taking them orally or snorting them won't accomplish that.

As a point of reference, 10mg of Opana IV'd gets me feeling pretty damn good.

So, yeah, I know it's bad, but I've made up my mind:|.


OK- my question:

I SUCK at shooting up (prolly a good thing). The sad part is- I have friggin HORSE veins! The first time I shot up, someone else did the dirty work for me and used 18g vet needles and it went in fine, that's how big my veins are...

But, when I do it myself, I can find the vein-> pullback to draw some blood but when I try to move my fingers up to the plunger to inject I've already lost the fucker!

I've had to plug three pills in my short time of doing this simply because the blood was in the syringe too long for my comfort zone because I'm terrified of injecting a blood clot: I'm NOT gonna be THAT guy who dies trying to inject drugs into my arm.


I haven't done this more than 9 times so that's a pretty bad failure rate considering the price of pills these days.


So: how long is TOO long after the blood has been pulled into the syringe before a clot forms?
Also: would running it back through the filter disc render the solution IV'able again? Or- is the chemical that causes bloodclots smaller than the tolerance of the filter disc (I think mine are the 0.2 um size).
 
As long as there is no air in the syringe it won't clot, but that doesn't mean you should inject old blood if there's no bubbles. I would say seriously work on your technique, I used to have the same problem losing the vein. get short and thin needles, I use bd 30 guage 5/16th inch. don't use an 18 guage vet syringe. sit down when you inject and stay calm, this will help. I wouldn't inject blood after 10 minutes in the syringe personally. if you have a short enough needle and get the angle right you can have it all the way in so the tip is touching your skin and it won't poke through the other side. that way as long as you keep the needle pushed in all the way it will stay in. don't try this with a long needle. having giant veins can actually make it harder some times, they seem to roll easier and are harder to hit. make sure your needle is sharp preferably brand new. so in summary get some 30 guage 5/16th inch needles and try those out. if you have sterile saline you can practice with that so you're not wasting expensive drugs while trying to learn the craft. you will get it with time, hopefully you will kick the habit before then. if you really can't afford to be sick right now I would look into suboxone, that will buy you a window of time where you can get shit done and not be sick.
 
First of all, an 18G syringe is way too big. If you have good veins.. you won't for long if you keep jabbing them with a rig that huge. 27 or 28G should be the biggest you go.. and then use smaller ones for smaller veins.

As far as the blood in the mix.. it doesn't matter. Of course, if you register and then don't inject for whatever reason, it's dangerous to keep a blood filled solution around and then try shooting it again later. However, in the 10 minutes or however long it takes you to successfully inject.. it will be fine.

Check out this thread.. you're new to injecting and could be developing some really bad techniques that will seriously hurt you and your veins.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...d-Info-MEGATHREAD-amp-FAQ-III-Vs-I-Want-Blood
 
Thanks for the replies guys.

But, I know for sure I've seen a clot in a syringe before- happened last night. However, I did forget to flick out the air bubbles. I knew it was a clot because instead of dispersing into the solution, a little glob formed and started floating around. Wound up plugging it after running back through the filter disc.

However, if this does happen again, can I run it back thru the disc and be safe? If done it before but the solution still stays a bit red tinted. I know the smallest blood clot is about .6 um with my disc covers. However, isn't the hemaglobulin (correct term?) smaller than .2 um? Wouldn't the higher concentration of hemaglobulin in the area of your vein after injecting be a risk of causing a clot?

And yeah I didn't use those monster trucks for very long, I had them left over from my mycology adventures and wanted to make use of them. However, I quickly found that the misses add up to a lot more damage and you can easily blow out your veins using them.

Now I have the 29g u100 long-needle syringes. After being bound and determined to figure this shit out this morning, I found that with the long needles, if you angle it about 60 degrees, insert a couple mm, then increase (flatten out) the angle to about 160-170 degrees depending on the site, and then insert a few more mm it works every time. Even hit a vein in my hand. MONEY! :D
 
Taking the oxycodone orally will keep you out of withdrawals way longer than if you ate them. Since they have a very high oral BA you are barely wasting any of the drug, and IME it lasts about 3x as long as when taken via IV, which is why I just take them orally now. There's not many drugs that an IV user will go back to taking orally, but oxycodone is one of them.
 
Wish I would have known that. But, thing is, it takes me so much to swallow to feel right it just ain't even worth buying oxy these days for what ppl around here are asking for them. For some fucked reason, they think just because it says "Oxy" in the name they are worth fucking gold. Honestly, my dose of oxycodone isn't too far beneath my hydrocodone dose.

I just need to get the monkey off my back for good. Inflation isn't only hitting food prices...
 
Quick question- what's the intranasal BA of oxy? I remember being able to snort a half a 20 and be flyin'! 'Dem was duh days!
 
Lol, I was the idiot who suggested that. My buddy tried to talk me into going and getting some u100s.. But I'm known to be very stubborn as well as persuasive... Even it serves my detriment :sus:.

When someone else poked for me, it went fine. But, if I wouldn't have stopped and went to the clinic when I did, I'm sure I would have blown out a vein or had some serious nerve damage. I was scared for a couple days b/c it was hard to completely fold my elbow to where my forearm touched my bicep. Thank God it went away though and the doc at the clinic took a look and said I was safe as long as I didn't go messing with it any more.
 
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