richmond police arrested 23 people. that picture seems to, for reasons one can only guess at, show only 11 people.
can you post a picture of the other 12?
alasdair
can you post a picture of the other 12?
alasdair
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Rioters Set Fire to Building With a Child Inside, Blocked Fire Truck From Puttin Out the Fire
State Cortney O'Brien Jun 2, 2020 | 4:59PM Washington, DC
The riots in response to the Minneapolis police killing of George Floyd don’t seem to be diminishing. In fact, they’re getting more dangerous and deadly in certain parts of the country. Two people were killed at a Davenport, Iowa protest Monday night. That same evening in Buffalo, three police officers were run over by a perpetrator in an SUV.
These scenes have been hard to witness. But I have to mention one more in Richmond, VA, where a group of agitators set fire to an occupied building on Monday. And then blocked a fire crew from getting inside the building to rescue a child inside. Richmond Police Chief Will Smith got choked up sharing the story during a press conference.
“We had to force our way to make a clear path for the fire department,” Smith recalled. “Protestors intercepted that fire apparatus several blocks away with vehicles and blocked that fire department’s access to the structure fire. Inside that home was a child.”
That’s when Smith broke down in tears and tried to collect himself.
“Officers were able to help those people out of the house,” he continued. “We were able to get the fire department there safely.”
He apologized, took a sip of water, and continued once more.
”When you take a legitimate issue and hijack it for unknown reasons, that is unacceptable to me. It’s unacceptable to the Richmond Police Department and unacceptable to the City of Richmond.”
Mayor Levar Stoney expressed similar sentiments, with similar emotion.
“When you block law enforcement from allowing fire services to get to a home that has caught on fire,” Stoney said. “You are not inspiring change. When you knock out windows of businesses that had nothing to do with this, you are not inspiring change. That’s an insult to the cause.”
Can someone tell me how trapping a child inside a burning building brings justice for George Floyd?
LifeNews Note: Cortney O’Brien is a Townhall web editor, where this was originally published.
Rioters Set Fire to Building With a Child Inside, Blocked Fire Truck From Puttin Out the Fire
State Cortney O'Brien Jun 2, 2020 | 4:59PM Washington, DC
The riots in response to the Minneapolis police killing of George Floyd don’t seem to be diminishing. In fact, they’re getting more dangerous and deadly in certain parts of the country. Two people were killed at a Davenport, Iowa protest Monday night. That same evening in Buffalo, three police officers were run over by a perpetrator in an SUV.
These scenes have been hard to witness. But I have to mention one more in Richmond, VA, where a group of agitators set fire to an occupied building on Monday. And then blocked a fire crew from getting inside the building to rescue a child inside. Richmond Police Chief Will Smith got choked up sharing the story during a press conference.
“We had to force our way to make a clear path for the fire department,” Smith recalled. “Protestors intercepted that fire apparatus several blocks away with vehicles and blocked that fire department’s access to the structure fire. Inside that home was a child.”
That’s when Smith broke down in tears and tried to collect himself.
“Officers were able to help those people out of the house,” he continued. “We were able to get the fire department there safely.”
He apologized, took a sip of water, and continued once more.
”When you take a legitimate issue and hijack it for unknown reasons, that is unacceptable to me. It’s unacceptable to the Richmond Police Department and unacceptable to the City of Richmond.”
Mayor Levar Stoney expressed similar sentiments, with similar emotion.
“When you block law enforcement from allowing fire services to get to a home that has caught on fire,” Stoney said. “You are not inspiring change. When you knock out windows of businesses that had nothing to do with this, you are not inspiring change. That’s an insult to the cause.”
Can someone tell me how trapping a child inside a burning building brings justice for George Floyd?
LifeNews Note: Cortney O’Brien is a Townhall web editor, where this was originally published.
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Not unexpected.Black lives matter. Children's lives? Not so much...
Rioters Set Fire to Building With a Child Inside, Blocked Fire Truck From Puttin Out the Fire
State Cortney O'Brien Jun 2, 2020 | 4:59PM Washington, DC
The riots in response to the Minneapolis police killing of George Floyd don’t seem to be diminishing. In fact, they’re getting more dangerous and deadly in certain parts of the country. Two people were killed at a Davenport, Iowa protest Monday night. That same evening in Buffalo, three police officers were run over by a perpetrator in an SUV.
These scenes have been hard to witness. But I have to mention one more in Richmond, VA, where a group of agitators set fire to an occupied building on Monday. And then blocked a fire crew from getting inside the building to rescue a child inside. Richmond Police Chief Will Smith got choked up sharing the story during a press conference.
“We had to force our way to make a clear path for the fire department,” Smith recalled. “Protestors intercepted that fire apparatus several blocks away with vehicles and blocked that fire department’s access to the structure fire. Inside that home was a child.”
That’s when Smith broke down in tears and tried to collect himself.
“Officers were able to help those people out of the house,” he continued. “We were able to get the fire department there safely.”
He apologized, took a sip of water, and continued once more.
”When you take a legitimate issue and hijack it for unknown reasons, that is unacceptable to me. It’s unacceptable to the Richmond Police Department and unacceptable to the City of Richmond.”
Mayor Levar Stoney expressed similar sentiments, with similar emotion.
“When you block law enforcement from allowing fire services to get to a home that has caught on fire,” Stoney said. “You are not inspiring change. When you knock out windows of businesses that had nothing to do with this, you are not inspiring change. That’s an insult to the cause.”
Can someone tell me how trapping a child inside a burning building brings justice for George Floyd?
LifeNews Note: Cortney O’Brien is a Townhall web editor, where this was originally published.
Rioters Set Fire to Building With a Child Inside, Blocked Fire Truck From Putting Out the Fire - LifeNews.com
The riots in response to the Minneapolis police killing of George Floyd don’t seem to be diminishing. In fact, they’re getting more dangerous and deadly in certain parts of the country. Two people were killed at a Davenport, Iowa protest Monday night. That same evening in Buffalo, three police...www.lifenews.com
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Cuban community plans rally at NuLu restaurant in response to Black Lives Matter demands
At least almost peaceful? Still, to threaten businesses this way? This is not how any society should operate, IMO.
I can kinda see the person behind it picking up upon the fact low income housing was replaced with mixed-income housing circa 2000. I get her angle that only 41/635 families were able to return. But she seems to be angry the change is 'flourishing' and doing well.
NOTE: I was curious why they asked for 23% staffing and inventory, it's because that IS the black population percentage in Louisville in 2019
Louisville Demographics
According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Louisville was:
At least almost peaceful? Still, to threaten businesses this way? This is not how any society should operate, IMO.
I can kinda see the person behind it picking up upon the fact low income housing was replaced with mixed-income housing circa 2000. I get her angle that only 41/635 families were able to return. But she seems to be angry the change is 'flourishing' and doing well.
NOTE: I was curious why they asked for 23% staffing and inventory, it's because that IS the black population percentage in Louisville in 2019
Louisville Demographics
According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Louisville was:
- White: 69.94%
- Black or African American: 23.46%
- Two or more races: 2.73%
- Asian: 2.69%
- Other race: 0.94%
- Native American: 0.18%
- Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.05%
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Starting to become convinced that this is the only way to deal with these idiots...
A near riot at the Weatherford courthouse all came down to one misunderstood symbol on a protest flyer
Participants tell The Watchdog it’s a miracle that, with both sides heavily armed, no shots were fired.
By Dave Lieber
4:42 PM on Jul 30, 2020 CDT
If civil war breaks out in America, what happened in Weatherford a week ago shows how easily it can begin. Out-of-town protesters clashed with Parker County residents on the courthouse lawn in one of the more violent Texas gatherings this troubled year.
Weatherford came close to becoming a symbol like Fort Sumter, site of first shots fired in 1861. There was enough weaponry on both sides to classify the event as a mini-gun show.
One side said they were there to protest a soldier statue in commemoration of the original Civil War. The other side said they were there to defend the honor of their county, which, until now, was best known as the home of its beautiful county courthouse and one of the world’s great peach festivals.
The Watchdog talked to both sides after Saturday’s skirmish, and what I found was that the entire episode appears to have been caused by one misplaced symbol on a protest flyer.
‘They came to us’
For Roy Montelongo, 23, a social media entrepreneur and recording artist, his Fort Worth-based protest group’s name says it all — Enough Is Enough. “We’ve been victimized our whole life,” he said.
For Jim Webster, 75, a former Parker County commissioner known for pulling a trailer behind his truck with life-size figures depicting Bill and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in jail, enough is enough for him, too.
“They came to us,” Webster said. “They got in our face. Did we go to Dallas? Did we go to Fort Worth? No. They came to Weatherford. We didn’t start anything.”
He added, “If you wave a flag in front of a bull, what do you expect?”
Brass knuckles
If Montelongo’s Saturday is any indication, the life of a protester can make for a long and dangerous day. This particular day began early, at 7 a.m. with, of all things, a back-to-school clothing and school supply drive his group hosted at the Tarrant County Courthouse. The timing wasn’t good.
That same morning, a pro-police rally gathered nearby in downtown Fort Worth. As that gathering approached Enough Is Enough, police formed a line separating the two groups. Both sides taunted one another. The volume turned up.
“One guy put on brass knuckles and came up to me,” Montelongo said.
Outnumbered, his group packed up and headed to their next engagement: Weatherford. Home of another of those century-old Civil War statues.
Jim Webster and 500 people were waiting.
‘This isn’t Portland’
“How did this whole thing happen?” I asked Webster.
“Did you see the flyer that was sent around?” he answered. I hadn’t, so he texted me a copy.
“The flyer was circulated around town,” he said. “It said they want to try to tear down the statue.”
In a quick read, the flyer appears to announce: “PROTEST & REMOVAL OF CONF. STATUE.”
“This isn’t Portland,” Webster said. “We’re not going to get pushed around by these guys.”
‘Ready for war’
Despite what the flyer appeared to say, the point of his group’s visit to Weatherford, Montelongo said, was to show support for those who want to see the statue removed, not to damage it in any way.
The protesters, some clad in all black , wearing full face masks and carrying umbrellas, arrived before 6 p.m. They marched in single file toward the courthouse.
Montelongo’s group, along with other supporting groups, totaled about 50. They were outnumbered 10 to 1.
Their arrival was met with taunts, water bottles tossed at them and guns pointed in their direction, including at least one rooftop sniper visible in event photos.
“We’re not here to start a war,” Montelongo said. “We’re not going to start anything we can’t win. We’re here for change. … These people were ready for war.”
They kept moving forward.
Melee
“Antifa was coming through,” Webster said. (“We’re not associated with Antifa,” Montelongo insisted. “We’re not associated with Black Lives Matter.”)
Police — local, county and state — tried to separate both sides.
The goal was to keep everybody on the sidewalk, out of the street. The two sides were mostly divided, but there was crossover. When there was, discussion was not always polite.
There was only so much police could do. Both sides pushed and name-called and made threats. Videos show several from the Parker County side throwing sucker punches at the visitors.
From the Parker County side, one man was arrested for starting a fight, while another was cited for disorderly conduct, according to the Parker County Sheriff’s Department. None of the out-of-towners were cited or arrested.
Retreat
After possibly 45 minutes of this, Enough Is Enough lived up to its name. Nothing could be gained by staying. The out-of-towners headed back to their vehicles. Some were taunted by locals, others escorted by police.
Webster called it a victory: “I’m proud of my town,” he said. “They came to us to create havoc and trouble. They didn’t come to protest. They came to tear down our statue. It’s not so much the statue because Black lives do matter. All lives matter.”
Montelongo said that with all the Confederate flags waved in their faces, “they were basically a Confederate racist party.”
Both men agreed on one thing:
“I was afraid that somebody would pull a trigger and war would erupt,” Webster said.
“I’m surprised no shots were fired,” Montelongo said. “It would have been a massacre.”
Confusing flyer
How was this caused by one misplaced symbol on the protest flyer that circulated around Parker County?
The Parker County people read the Enough Is Enough flyer to say “PROTEST & REMOVAL OF CONF. STATUE.” It does appear to say that.
But when I look closer at the flyer that riled Parker County, I see that the protest group’s intention was that the flyer state “PROTEST 4 REMOVAL OF CONF. STATUE.”
It’s an important distinction. What looks like an ampersand is actually supposed to be a 4. Remember, Montelongo insisted that nobody planned to remove the statue, just protest for its removal.
With the ampersand, it reads protest AND removal. With the number 4, it reads protest for removal.
Big difference.
One confusing symbol, I believe, created this massive misunderstanding.
Over such small errors, the ugliest things can begin.
Note: On Tuesday night, the Weatherford City Council announced that it wants Parker County Commissioners to remove the statue from the courthouse grounds. But on Thursday, the county commissioners voted 5-0 to keep the statue in its current place. Some commissioners said they heard from a majority of residents wanting to keep it.
Updated at 1:55 p.m. on July 31: Revised a photo caption to show that not all anti-statue protesters were from out of town.
Don't mess with Texas?
A near riot at the Weatherford courthouse all came down to one misunderstood symbol on a protest flyer
Participants tell The Watchdog it’s a miracle that, with both sides heavily armed, no shots were fired.
By Dave Lieber
4:42 PM on Jul 30, 2020 CDT
If civil war breaks out in America, what happened in Weatherford a week ago shows how easily it can begin. Out-of-town protesters clashed with Parker County residents on the courthouse lawn in one of the more violent Texas gatherings this troubled year.
Weatherford came close to becoming a symbol like Fort Sumter, site of first shots fired in 1861. There was enough weaponry on both sides to classify the event as a mini-gun show.
One side said they were there to protest a soldier statue in commemoration of the original Civil War. The other side said they were there to defend the honor of their county, which, until now, was best known as the home of its beautiful county courthouse and one of the world’s great peach festivals.
The Watchdog talked to both sides after Saturday’s skirmish, and what I found was that the entire episode appears to have been caused by one misplaced symbol on a protest flyer.
‘They came to us’
For Roy Montelongo, 23, a social media entrepreneur and recording artist, his Fort Worth-based protest group’s name says it all — Enough Is Enough. “We’ve been victimized our whole life,” he said.
For Jim Webster, 75, a former Parker County commissioner known for pulling a trailer behind his truck with life-size figures depicting Bill and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in jail, enough is enough for him, too.
“They came to us,” Webster said. “They got in our face. Did we go to Dallas? Did we go to Fort Worth? No. They came to Weatherford. We didn’t start anything.”
He added, “If you wave a flag in front of a bull, what do you expect?”
Brass knuckles
If Montelongo’s Saturday is any indication, the life of a protester can make for a long and dangerous day. This particular day began early, at 7 a.m. with, of all things, a back-to-school clothing and school supply drive his group hosted at the Tarrant County Courthouse. The timing wasn’t good.
That same morning, a pro-police rally gathered nearby in downtown Fort Worth. As that gathering approached Enough Is Enough, police formed a line separating the two groups. Both sides taunted one another. The volume turned up.
“One guy put on brass knuckles and came up to me,” Montelongo said.
Outnumbered, his group packed up and headed to their next engagement: Weatherford. Home of another of those century-old Civil War statues.
Jim Webster and 500 people were waiting.
‘This isn’t Portland’
“How did this whole thing happen?” I asked Webster.
“Did you see the flyer that was sent around?” he answered. I hadn’t, so he texted me a copy.
“The flyer was circulated around town,” he said. “It said they want to try to tear down the statue.”
In a quick read, the flyer appears to announce: “PROTEST & REMOVAL OF CONF. STATUE.”
“This isn’t Portland,” Webster said. “We’re not going to get pushed around by these guys.”
‘Ready for war’
Despite what the flyer appeared to say, the point of his group’s visit to Weatherford, Montelongo said, was to show support for those who want to see the statue removed, not to damage it in any way.
The protesters, some clad in all black , wearing full face masks and carrying umbrellas, arrived before 6 p.m. They marched in single file toward the courthouse.
Montelongo’s group, along with other supporting groups, totaled about 50. They were outnumbered 10 to 1.
Their arrival was met with taunts, water bottles tossed at them and guns pointed in their direction, including at least one rooftop sniper visible in event photos.
“We’re not here to start a war,” Montelongo said. “We’re not going to start anything we can’t win. We’re here for change. … These people were ready for war.”
They kept moving forward.
Melee
“Antifa was coming through,” Webster said. (“We’re not associated with Antifa,” Montelongo insisted. “We’re not associated with Black Lives Matter.”)
Police — local, county and state — tried to separate both sides.
The goal was to keep everybody on the sidewalk, out of the street. The two sides were mostly divided, but there was crossover. When there was, discussion was not always polite.
There was only so much police could do. Both sides pushed and name-called and made threats. Videos show several from the Parker County side throwing sucker punches at the visitors.
From the Parker County side, one man was arrested for starting a fight, while another was cited for disorderly conduct, according to the Parker County Sheriff’s Department. None of the out-of-towners were cited or arrested.
Retreat
After possibly 45 minutes of this, Enough Is Enough lived up to its name. Nothing could be gained by staying. The out-of-towners headed back to their vehicles. Some were taunted by locals, others escorted by police.
Webster called it a victory: “I’m proud of my town,” he said. “They came to us to create havoc and trouble. They didn’t come to protest. They came to tear down our statue. It’s not so much the statue because Black lives do matter. All lives matter.”
Montelongo said that with all the Confederate flags waved in their faces, “they were basically a Confederate racist party.”
Both men agreed on one thing:
“I was afraid that somebody would pull a trigger and war would erupt,” Webster said.
“I’m surprised no shots were fired,” Montelongo said. “It would have been a massacre.”
Confusing flyer
How was this caused by one misplaced symbol on the protest flyer that circulated around Parker County?
The Parker County people read the Enough Is Enough flyer to say “PROTEST & REMOVAL OF CONF. STATUE.” It does appear to say that.
But when I look closer at the flyer that riled Parker County, I see that the protest group’s intention was that the flyer state “PROTEST 4 REMOVAL OF CONF. STATUE.”
It’s an important distinction. What looks like an ampersand is actually supposed to be a 4. Remember, Montelongo insisted that nobody planned to remove the statue, just protest for its removal.
With the ampersand, it reads protest AND removal. With the number 4, it reads protest for removal.
Big difference.
One confusing symbol, I believe, created this massive misunderstanding.
Over such small errors, the ugliest things can begin.
Note: On Tuesday night, the Weatherford City Council announced that it wants Parker County Commissioners to remove the statue from the courthouse grounds. But on Thursday, the county commissioners voted 5-0 to keep the statue in its current place. Some commissioners said they heard from a majority of residents wanting to keep it.
Updated at 1:55 p.m. on July 31: Revised a photo caption to show that not all anti-statue protesters were from out of town.
A near riot at the Weatherford courthouse all came down to one misunderstood symbol on a protest flyer
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Great read, thanks for sharing the article.
To your point of the 'idiots'....I see opportunity for both sides to be idiots in the story AND improve.
Travelling protesters, in today's climate, HAVE to expect to be viewed as antifa even if they aren't. Moreover, you have to get your own house in order before you try to tell others how to straighten up theirs. IF there had been a local group wanting to protest from within Weatherford but they felt too small or frightened to protest on their own, and they sent out a call for others to help them, then I could see Montelongo and his folks coming to help support. But to decide to travel to other towns on their own and begin a protest is asking for confrontation.
Webster's side misreading the flyer...a mistake that SOMEONE should have caught, but I sense they were all wound too tight to concede a misreading. And, in today's climate, I could see them interpreting the incoming group as antifa instigators intent on destruction; and Webster's group wanting to defend their town from such. They need better discipline to not engage, as evidenced by two on their side being addressed by law enforcement.
Glad to see law enforcement helping keep the situation from escalating, by keeping both groups across a street from one another and addressing it when someone did choose to initiate engagement.
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George Floyd body cam footage released
Aaaand there are calls for folks not to watch it...just take our word for what happened rather than view it and decide for yourself![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
Aaaand there are calls for folks not to watch it...just take our word for what happened rather than view it and decide for yourself
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I have not, I should, I don't like watching people get killed though, at all, like I really don't. I was wanting to say something to the effect that just because someone says don't watch the video doesn't mean that the video shows that the actions of the cops must be justified (which seems to be the implication - or at least that the contents of the video de-legitimize the outrage, or something).
Okay I watched the first half so far, it's awful. I stopped because it was making me feel sick. The man didn't get out of the vehicle... because he was literally crying in fear saying "you're not gonna shoot me are? Please don't shoot me, man". Etc. Dude was absolutely terrified. And he was right to be, because they killed him.
And why was he automatically so terrified? It couldn't be because there's a problem with cops killing black people, and that he has experienced it enough to know real terror at the prospect, to know there was a real chance they were going to shoot him.
@Noodle, if you watched the whole thing, did he ever threaten them or become violent? Or was it a continuation of him pleading for his life?
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Then-cop Derek Chauvin “knew what he was doing” when fatally kneeling on the neck of George Floyd, says Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo.
“Mr. George Floyd’s tragic death was not due to a lack of training — the training was there,” Arradondo said in a statement obtained by CNN. “Chauvin knew what he was doing.”
The chief called Floyd’s May 25 death a murder.
“The officers knew what was happening — one intentionally caused it and the others failed to prevent it,” he said. “This was murder — it wasn’t a lack of training.”
Chauvin, and one of his three co-defendants Tou Thao both got training on avoiding suffocation in people getting restrained in a prone, or face down position, police said.
Chauvin’s and Thao’s attorneys of record did not immediately respond to a Law&Crime request for comment.
As seen on video, police arrested Floyd on May 25, but bystanders called them out because Chauvin was kneeling on the man’s neck. This went on for 8 minutes and 46 seconds, even after the victim became unresponsive, prosecutors said.
Chauvin, Thao, and two other officers—J. Alexander Kueng, and Thomas Lane–were fired, then charged over the incident. The man who actually kneeled on Floyd’s neck faces the most serious charges: second-degree murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter. The others were charged for allegedly aiding and abetting the crime.
The Medical Examiner said Floyd died from “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression,” and said he “experienced a cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by law enforcement officer(s).” He also had drugs in his system, authorities said. The official story clashed with an independent autopsy commissioned by Floyd’s family; this said he died from compression of the neck, and they dismissed claims of underlying conditions.
Kueng’s and Lane’s attorneys said their clients were only on the job for a few days.
“I’m not claiming that he was following orders,” Lane’s attorney Earl Gray previously told CNN. “I’m claiming that he thought what he was doing was right. Because he asked a training officer: ‘Should we roll him over?’ Twice. You’ve got to have criminal intent for second-degree murder. And, frankly, this is bullshit.”
[Image via Minnesota Department of Corrections]
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Source: https://lawandcrime.com/george-floy...eled-on-george-floyds-neck-says-police-chief/
Then-cop Derek Chauvin “knew what he was doing” when fatally kneeling on the neck of George Floyd, says Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo.
“Mr. George Floyd’s tragic death was not due to a lack of training — the training was there,” Arradondo said in a statement obtained by CNN. “Chauvin knew what he was doing.”
The chief called Floyd’s May 25 death a murder.
“The officers knew what was happening — one intentionally caused it and the others failed to prevent it,” he said. “This was murder — it wasn’t a lack of training.”
Chauvin, and one of his three co-defendants Tou Thao both got training on avoiding suffocation in people getting restrained in a prone, or face down position, police said.
Chauvin’s and Thao’s attorneys of record did not immediately respond to a Law&Crime request for comment.
As seen on video, police arrested Floyd on May 25, but bystanders called them out because Chauvin was kneeling on the man’s neck. This went on for 8 minutes and 46 seconds, even after the victim became unresponsive, prosecutors said.
Chauvin, Thao, and two other officers—J. Alexander Kueng, and Thomas Lane–were fired, then charged over the incident. The man who actually kneeled on Floyd’s neck faces the most serious charges: second-degree murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter. The others were charged for allegedly aiding and abetting the crime.
The Medical Examiner said Floyd died from “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression,” and said he “experienced a cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by law enforcement officer(s).” He also had drugs in his system, authorities said. The official story clashed with an independent autopsy commissioned by Floyd’s family; this said he died from compression of the neck, and they dismissed claims of underlying conditions.
Kueng’s and Lane’s attorneys said their clients were only on the job for a few days.
“I’m not claiming that he was following orders,” Lane’s attorney Earl Gray previously told CNN. “I’m claiming that he thought what he was doing was right. Because he asked a training officer: ‘Should we roll him over?’ Twice. You’ve got to have criminal intent for second-degree murder. And, frankly, this is bullshit.”
[Image via Minnesota Department of Corrections]
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Don't you guys get it tho? It's not about George Floyd anymore. Not all, but a lot of these "protesters" are just using his death as an excuse to further their leftist/marxist agenda. They're pawns of the DNC and I think it's highly possible that they're being funded by someone. I think that anyone who's not a psychopathic racist can agree that George Floyd's death was a tragedy, but at this point the original message has been clouded by violence and destruction. These people won't be happy until the whole system collapses. I'm all for the right to peacefully protest, but the criminals that want to bring violence and destruction to other states need to be dealt with, and anyone using violence and destroying property for that matter. They don't care about laws or America, they want to see it all burn down.
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“Waking up this morning to see Minneapolis on fire would be something that would devastate Floyd,” she continued. “He loves the city. He came here [from Houston] and stayed here for the people and the opportunities… Floyd was a gentle giant. He was about love and peace.”
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eorge Floyd’s Relatives and Girlfriend Stun Violent Protesters, Say He Would Be ‘Devastated’ To See Minneapolis On FireGeorge Floyd’s Relatives and Girlfriend Stun Violent Protesters, Say He Would Be ‘Devastated’ To See Minneapolis On Fire [Opinion]
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You are right. It's about more than just the murder of Blacks by the police.
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AMERICA RECKONS WITH RACIAL INJUSTICE
Amnesty International Documents 125 Incidents Of Police Violence Against Protesters
Amnesty International says it has documented 125 separate instances of violence against protesters for racial justice in the U.S. over an 11-day period earlier this summer.
In a report published Tuesday, the human rights organization says that in the five years since 18-year-old Michael Brown was killed in Ferguson, Mo., "there has been a disturbing lack of progress ... in ensuring that police officers use lethal force only when there is an imminent risk of death or serious injury to themselves or others."
The instances took place between May 26 and June 5. They spanned 40 states and the District of Columbia, and allege excessive force by state and local police departments, as well as National Guard troops and federal agents.
Among the incidents are beatings, the use of tear gas and pepper spray, and the firing of "less lethal" munitions. The study also documented the targeting of medics, legal observers, and journalists by law enforcement officers.
One of the episodes documented in the report is the account of Lizzie Horne, a Rabbinical student and protester in Philadelphia.
"Out of the blue, they started breezing pepper spray into the crowd. ... Then they started with the tear gas. Someone who was right in front — had a tear gas canister hit his head and started running back. We were trying to help him, flushing his eyes and then he just fainted and started having a seizure," Horne recounts in the report. "People started putting their hands up but the cops wouldn't let up."
The report calls for action to limit the use of deadly force by law enforcement. The Washington Post's Fatal Force database found that nearly 1,000 people were shot and killed by police in 2019.
Few of these instances ever find their way to court, where convictions of officers are rare. Philip Stinson at Bowling Green State University found that from 2005-2018, there were 97 state or local law enforcement officers who were arrested for murder or manslaughter resulting from an on-duty shooting where the officer shot and killed someone in the U.S. Of those, just 35 were convicted of a crime resulting from the shooting. Twenty of the cases were still pending when the research was published in March 2019.
The report calls for action to limit the use of deadly force by law enforcement. The Washington Post's Fatal Force database found that nearly 1,000 people were shot and killed by police in 2019.
Few of these instances ever find their way to court, where convictions of officers are rare. Philip Stinson at Bowling Green State University found that from 2005-2018, there were 97 state or local law enforcement officers who were arrested for murder or manslaughter resulting from an on-duty shooting where the officer shot and killed someone in the U.S. Of those, just 35 were convicted of a crime resulting from the shooting. Twenty of the cases were still pending when the research was published in March 2019.
"The unnecessary and sometimes excessive use of force by police against protesters exhibits the very systemic racism and impunity they had taken to the streets to protest," said Ernest
Coverson, Amnesty International USA's End Gun Violence Campaign Manager. "The research shows that people who were simply exercising their human right to peacefully protest were met with such violence that they lost eyesight, survived brutal beatings, and suffered seizures and severe wounds."
NPR has requested comment on the report from the U.S. Department of Justice and the Fraternal Order of Police, but did not receive a response from either.
Amnesty International called on the Justice Department, state attorneys general and local authorities to investigate these incidents and bring those responsible to account. It also urged state legislatures to enact statutes that limit the use of lethal force by law enforcement to only those instances where it's necessary to protect against an imminent threat of death or serious injury.
And when it comes to the rights of protesting for racial equality and against excessive force by police?
The organization says authorities at all levels in the U.S. "must ensure that everyone under their jurisdiction can enjoy their human rights to peaceful assembly and freedom of expression."
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source: https://www.npr.org/sections/live-u...lIhjJ-76-r_PD-P-wfhlupsxK1hBZQxiCkVHMPmO7saTE
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AMERICA RECKONS WITH RACIAL INJUSTICE
Amnesty International Documents 125 Incidents Of Police Violence Against Protesters
Amnesty International says it has documented 125 separate instances of violence against protesters for racial justice in the U.S. over an 11-day period earlier this summer.
In a report published Tuesday, the human rights organization says that in the five years since 18-year-old Michael Brown was killed in Ferguson, Mo., "there has been a disturbing lack of progress ... in ensuring that police officers use lethal force only when there is an imminent risk of death or serious injury to themselves or others."
The instances took place between May 26 and June 5. They spanned 40 states and the District of Columbia, and allege excessive force by state and local police departments, as well as National Guard troops and federal agents.
Among the incidents are beatings, the use of tear gas and pepper spray, and the firing of "less lethal" munitions. The study also documented the targeting of medics, legal observers, and journalists by law enforcement officers.
One of the episodes documented in the report is the account of Lizzie Horne, a Rabbinical student and protester in Philadelphia.
"Out of the blue, they started breezing pepper spray into the crowd. ... Then they started with the tear gas. Someone who was right in front — had a tear gas canister hit his head and started running back. We were trying to help him, flushing his eyes and then he just fainted and started having a seizure," Horne recounts in the report. "People started putting their hands up but the cops wouldn't let up."
The report calls for action to limit the use of deadly force by law enforcement. The Washington Post's Fatal Force database found that nearly 1,000 people were shot and killed by police in 2019.
Few of these instances ever find their way to court, where convictions of officers are rare. Philip Stinson at Bowling Green State University found that from 2005-2018, there were 97 state or local law enforcement officers who were arrested for murder or manslaughter resulting from an on-duty shooting where the officer shot and killed someone in the U.S. Of those, just 35 were convicted of a crime resulting from the shooting. Twenty of the cases were still pending when the research was published in March 2019.
The report calls for action to limit the use of deadly force by law enforcement. The Washington Post's Fatal Force database found that nearly 1,000 people were shot and killed by police in 2019.
Few of these instances ever find their way to court, where convictions of officers are rare. Philip Stinson at Bowling Green State University found that from 2005-2018, there were 97 state or local law enforcement officers who were arrested for murder or manslaughter resulting from an on-duty shooting where the officer shot and killed someone in the U.S. Of those, just 35 were convicted of a crime resulting from the shooting. Twenty of the cases were still pending when the research was published in March 2019.
"The unnecessary and sometimes excessive use of force by police against protesters exhibits the very systemic racism and impunity they had taken to the streets to protest," said Ernest
Coverson, Amnesty International USA's End Gun Violence Campaign Manager. "The research shows that people who were simply exercising their human right to peacefully protest were met with such violence that they lost eyesight, survived brutal beatings, and suffered seizures and severe wounds."
NPR has requested comment on the report from the U.S. Department of Justice and the Fraternal Order of Police, but did not receive a response from either.
Amnesty International called on the Justice Department, state attorneys general and local authorities to investigate these incidents and bring those responsible to account. It also urged state legislatures to enact statutes that limit the use of lethal force by law enforcement to only those instances where it's necessary to protect against an imminent threat of death or serious injury.
And when it comes to the rights of protesting for racial equality and against excessive force by police?
The organization says authorities at all levels in the U.S. "must ensure that everyone under their jurisdiction can enjoy their human rights to peaceful assembly and freedom of expression."
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source: https://www.npr.org/sections/live-u...lIhjJ-76-r_PD-P-wfhlupsxK1hBZQxiCkVHMPmO7saTE
( emphasis is mine )
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nuttynutskin
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I'm all for law enforcement being accountable, but a lot of what I'm seeing is NOT peaceful protests. The mainstream media keeps pushing the narrative that they're all peaceful when there's plenty of video evidence showing the contrary. In Seattle the police department basically has their hands tied as far as being able to deal with rioters because of their worthless mayor. But sure, let's defund the police and then these protesters are going to be begging for them when they're forced to deal with armed citizens that have had enough of their town and businesses being destroyed.
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TheLoveBandit
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That statement highlights the disconnect. Police are addressing protesters (note a lack of definition or criteria for race, religion, creed, etc). Maybe some protesters are not peaceful and require a stronger response according to society's laws. Maybe some protesters are peaceful, and the cops are out of control for whatever reason. If the cops are out of control, that's an issue to be addressed. However, in none of this police response is there anything about systemic racism. Currently, the common cause for the protests are police brutality on blacks, but in all those instances documented by AmInt, how many of those protesters effected by police response are non-black? The vast majority in nearly all of these riots warranting stronger police response are White people. How is that systemic racism, being exhibited?