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bk-MDMA (Methylone) wonder drug?

optimuswind

optimuswind

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From what i've read this thing does everything MDMA does without the horrible comedown and without the neurotoxicity, why isn't it more well known and used, what's the catch? I read that you can take this all week at low doses for social interaction and be fine after the end of it. People taking it daily for months and having no cognitive problems etc. (just random internet searching)

I am no chemist by any means, but bk-MDMA obviously tells me MDMA is involved somewhere, so what about neurotoxicity, does it work in the brain the same way and produce the oxidation which damages the axons?
 
Tbh .... if you get some really good clean mdma rocks and you know the good connects , the comedown will be pretty damn clean man. Ive had 3 experiences with mdma rocks and every time i was on my comedown i could eat and i went to sleep without any problems. My afterglow was really nice too , never felt bad. I dont reaelly remember well about bk-MDMA , but i heard alot of nasty things about it.
 
I've got 7g of crystal mdma, enough to last me a lifetime, but I don't like the neurotoxicitiy that comes with MDMA, and I don't like the execessive sweating, plus there's the whole spacing out your rolls between weeks/months.


I was hoping Methylone would be something you could dose on throughout the day at like 100mg every few hours and "feel" like MDMA, only, it's not. To help me get over social anxiety in a university setting.
 
I had that problem and only cocaine and mdma would cure it back in those days, or so I thought. Booze never quite did the trick although I certainly drank. I'd personally treat methylone with the same respect as Mdma. I have 3 grams of it and I have yet to try it because of how much I used mdma over my final year in university. I'd just chill out man the solution to that problem isn't drugs, they often make things worse. In fact I don't have social anxiety anymore, I most likely had it back then because of how much I fucking drank.
 
I thought that Methylone can be treated a bit lighter than MDMA? That's what i've read so far anyway, people seem to have huge success with it improving their lives taking it just short-term, wheras other people claim it did absolutely nothing for them (comparing it too much to MDMA, too much MDMA?, expecting it to be like MDMA?)

I'm mostly interested in the anxiolytic properties of it.
 
From what I've gathered, it typically tends to be harder on body (more stimulation) and less empathy/magic (1/3 as strong a seretonin release as Mdma). I haven't tried it though, and it certainly has a lot of potential. Some say it's every bit as good as Mdma. Since it's also some crazy lab chemical that's an oxygen atom away from being Mdma and has similar effects, I'd associate the same risks with taking it. You never know how you'll be affected by it.

I'm more interested in AMT though.
 
Well i've bought 1g of it and plan to take 0.50mg to begin with and see what happens, i'll update the thread in the next few days (might be a week) and see what effects I get from it, also from upping to 100mg, etc.
 
Methylone is a watered down version of mdma but it is really enjoyable. You have to redose though and it is moreish since it is a cathinone. Both are illegal but methylone is easier to find and much of what is to be Mdma is in fact m1. It has more stimulation but it is more gentle. The biggest pro was m1 was legal....now you have to wade through m1 being sold as e. No online orders anymore. The st is where you will find both.

Methylone was nice when legal but now it just gets convoluted.
 
I'm aware of the legality of this drug and MDMA, I was just hoping anyone had any information or answers to my questions, any taken it for anxiety and found positive results?
 
The truth is that we dont know much about methylone, as it is relatively new to the scene. But i do know tgat you def should NOT take it all week. Id recommend spacing it out like mdma. Also, chilll with the quantity discussion and incriminating yourself:)
 
I thought the bullshit self-incrimination stupid shit was limited to drugs-forum? fuck that SWIM bullshit. this is the internet and i'll say what I want.

*cough* Ahem.
Anyway, you're right, it doesn't seem like much research has been done on it, but this account (regarding anxiety) and this website have pretty much convinced me to at least try it.

I plan to take it with anti-oxidants I would normally take with MDMA, just incase.

My "plan" for this was to enter university in under a month, take theraputic doses of this to get me through the first week and make friends and then slowly taper off it and rely more on my self-administered benzodiazepenes to cover the fallout.
 
Alllllright, sounds like youve made up your mind. A period of m1 use followed by a period of benzo usefor the purpose of making friends is ill conceived. Regardless, let us know how it goes.

For the record you seem reasonably intelligent and confident. Everyone at university is in the same boat with regard to friends. Why not try it drug free? Or even with just the benzos and skip the m1?
 
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JimSteele said:
Why not try it drug free?
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Because as I said I have crippling social anxiety. I tried to go to university last year, I lasted 1 week before a suicide attempt. Therapy over this year did nothing for me, so I'm turning to pharmaceuticals.
 
Well good luck optimus! Dont forget to check back in and let us know how it all went, how effective it was, after effects, etc.
 
Im no expert but i know when it comes to mdma. You cant take it everyday and dosing back to back like you want to. Alot of people get fucked up like that and get depressed,brain zaps, anxiety.. etc

Now methylone is a RESEARCH CHEMICAL. its only been around for a short while. it acts similar to mdma and affects the brain in similar ways. as serotonin depletion and so forth. So the same rules apply when taking methylone as in taking mdma. Try not to redose and definitely dont do a gram over the course of a week for therapeutic reasons. Thats just silly

Youre saying you are already mentally unstable and want to fix it by taking a drug that has not been studied very much and want to run your own clinical trial to get you past your first week of college to make some friends? Sounds like a disaster to me

You should treat m1 like mdma. Try to space your rolls out 3-4 months and dont redose more than 2 or 3 times.
 
Except anecdotal reports from allover the internet say that you CAN take it every day, re-dose, and it doesn't fuck you up like MDMA.

Does nobody on these forums have any actual useful knowledge to contribute?
 
Apologies that our harm reduction advice is not as useful as the opinions of two people found by randomly searching the internet. Useful advice : the damage done by methylone is certainly not limited to oxidation and wont be prevented simply byusing antioxidants.
 
optimuswind said:
Except anecdotal reports from allover the internet say that you CAN take it every day, re-dose, and it doesn't fuck you up like MDMA.

Does nobody on these forums have any actual useful knowledge to contribute?
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Methylone is far more speedy than MDMA, so you need to consider that, at some point, after you redose 3 or 4 times, the good feelings will go, and all the joyous stimulant side effects will be hitting you full force. You'll be wanting to compulsively redose (especially if you have clean methylone) so you're going to need the willpower to avoid that (and if you've done mephedrone it's not as hard to avoid, but the temptation is there).

I'm aware of the legality of this drug and MDMA, I was just hoping anyone had any information or answers to my questions, any taken it for anxiety and found positive results?
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It's extremely positive in the short term, but you're not really in a place to "properly" socialize. People will know something is wrong; if you're not hyper talkative, you'll likely have a weird grin and/or fidgeting motions complementing your huge pupils.

When the comedown hits though, you may experience an increase in anxiety depending on your dose and redose timings.

Unfortunately, you can't say it's 100% safe. The reason people push themselves further with it is because it's comedown is less depressing, more stimulant/amphetamine like (This is because methylone doesn't work as strongly on serotonin receptors as MDMA does). However, if you try and over do it, you'll be greeted with a comedown reminiscent of MDMA.

Most people who claim to do it "every day" are either exaggerating or they have a product that is so inferior in quality, they can (if whatever they have is mostly cocaine or meth cut with corn starch or something, they might report about how their experience was slightly speedy, comedown not too bad, etc, etc).

I understand your situation though and I wish you the best of luck...I don't mean to derail your topic, but maybe you could look in to low dose Ketamine, Adderral (or Vyvanse), or a 2C?
 
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