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RCs bk-MBDB purification from "party pills" known to contain it

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jessirose

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hey yall,
I am in possession of a number of party pills which are sold through a local head shop. These pills contain a fairly high amount of bk-mbdb. however, they are also full of junk which just takes up space such as the binder etc. i was hoping that one of yall would have some ideas as how to "purify" the butylone as much as possible so that i can avoid consuming the junk and use a more varied range of ROAs. thanks so much:)<3

admins: if this belongs somewhere else or can be added to another thread i apologize
 
wow, i wish i could just walk down the street to the headshop and buy methylone. that must be so awesome

assuming the methylone is in its acid salt form and not the base form (its probably in the salt form), u could try washing it with a nonpolar solvent (no i dont mean acetone (nail polish remover) or isopropyl alcohol, i mean real non polar solvent) you could possibly use naptha (can be bought at home depot and a lot of other places). if you use acetone(nail polish remover) or rubbing alcohol , you will wash away a lot of the good stuff. acetone is still polar, just less so than water. Or maybe use some methylene chloride or something like that. This will remove any non polar stuff in the binder.

if the binder is mostly insoluble in this nonpolar solvent, then it likely can only be washed away using a polar solvent. This will make things a bit harder. Because then you may have to do a full blown extraction (not quite, but same principle as dmt extraction). you would have to convert the methylone to its free base form by dissolving it all in some water, add some naptha , and adding some sodium hydroxide (easily bought at home depot, use Roebics 100 percent lye, may even be sold at a few convenient stores if your very lucky.The methylone (if its like other amines that are like this (dmt , mdma, meth, etc) ) , will leave the water solution and dissolve into the naptha. Then you can take some pool acid, pour it into another plastic soda bottle , and attach a plastic tube to the top of it. then drop the other end of the tube down into the naptha . squeeze the bottle to let acid fumes enter the naptha, the acid will convert the base methylone back to its salt form. As this happens, methylone hcl will precipitate out of the naptha, filter this and dry it.

Dont cut corners and use acetone wash or something like that, you will seriously wash away a lot of methylone if you do that.

if your planning on snorting it, which it sounds like you are, then make sure its the best ROA for methylone, because it isnt for MDMA. if your planning on injecting it, be sure to do the above method right or not at all, cause if you fuck up and somehow get sodium hydroxide or pool acid into the final product, it could be pretty bad.

yea, it sounds like a lot of work.
 
Thanks so so much that was incredibly thought out and detailed:) I really appriciate it!

IV is generally my prefered ROA whenever possible however the convenience and affordability of the pills in no way justifies the risk. Plugging might be an alternative i might persue. Do you think i would need to go through this process to do so or if finely powdered enough the binder and other chemicals would be a non issue? It's been several years since i have attempted to do anything this complex and frankly i dont trust myself to be as deliberate and detailed oriented as the project requires.

I will probably just end up taking them sublingually:3
 
i personally would not inject anything i extracted. just because of the chemicals involved. if done correctly, there should not be chemicals in the final product, but if i made a mistake, i wouldnt want to be injecting naptha (hydrocarbons- like gasoline almost) straight into a vein in the event i didnt dry it all the way or something.
its probably not gonna kill you to dissolve and inject this pill you bought. its made by real chemists, though the people putting it into a pill have added a few binders. people inject a lot of things, without much harm. youd be surprised at some of the stuff people have injected : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desomorphine , read the paragraph about "krokodil". since these are unlikely to have a lot of harmful chemical contaminents, because they are usually made by chemists who know what they are doing, just binders. its likely not going to be any worse for you than injecting a prescription pill to get high .

that said, its not exactly safe to do it either. but id probably do it anyways. but i wouldnt want to inject it after i "purified it" with pool acid, drain cleaner, and a gasoline-like petroleum substance.

nobody can tell you the safety of the binder without knowing what the binders actually are. but if when you go to inject it, and you find that the binders dont all dissolve, do not try to inject it. you dont want a bunch of undissolved solid particles shooting through your veins.
 
I mean the only problem i'd have with doing that is the sheer bulk of the excess non bk-MBDB matter. it would be very hard to get the "rush" i am seeking without having much less powder do deal with:/ Arguably it's safer to do just try and mainline a bit than it is to shoot street cocaine which could contain animal dewormer or the like.

I am going to dissolve an 8th of a pill and if it completely dissolves then inject it. Would you recoment a saline solution or distilled water?

I've read about Krokodil before and that shit scares the living hell out of me. thanks so much for all of you help thus far:)
 
Butylone is horrible stuff. If it really was methylone,then it would be worth doing. IV methylone is delicious.
 
whoops, i accidently thought she said bk-mdma(methylone). didnt notice it said bk-mbdb. ive never had butylone before.

not sure an eighth of a pill would do much.
 
Butylone is horrible stuff.
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-JJ-180 (did i do that correctly?:P)

ugh, that was a waste of $10, a syringe, and my time. That is disgusting stuff:X
no euphoria and only mild stimulation even after talking the other 1 and 7/8 of the pills sub-ling.
 
@Micheal_1992 Thanks so so so much for all of your help! I really appriciate it:3 Hope you have a groovy as fuck day
 
jessirose said:
-JJ-180 (did i do that correctly?:P)

ugh, that was a waste of $10, a syringe, and my time. That is disgusting stuff:X
no euphoria and only mild stimulation even after talking the other 1 and 7/8 of the pills sub-ling.
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I hate to say it,but I tol' you so....
 
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