Aetherius Rimor
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Set: Due to server problems causing periodic downtime hindering my job, I've been given the day off. First day off in a couple weeks, so it's incredibly relaxing/stres free.
Setting: At home, reading a book.
Experience with BK-MBDB: First time.
Experience with drugs in general: Very experienced
Height: 5'10" (177 cm)
Weight: 225 lb (102 kg)
Cardiovascular Baseline: 135 systolic, 90 diastolic, 90 bpm
T-0:30 Ate a couple muffins for breakfast.
T+0:00 Took 160mg in a capsule (0.7mg/lb, 1.57mg/kg).
T+0:35 Effects are noticeable. Feeling slightly euphoric and energetic. Went to smoke a cigarette.
T+0:50 Measured heart rate and blood pressure. 161 sys/106 dia/105 bpm. Began writing these notes.
T+0:55 Feels very similar to MDMA at this point, but with some noticeable differences. The biggest difference is mental. My mind feels clear, and doesn't feel like it's racing. I feel cognitively sober. The body high feels like MDMA, and I do have a huge "cuddle" desire. The feeling is slightly overwhelming and I could no longer continue reading my book. I have the desire to be productive or to do something, but it's not a compulsion like I feel on normal stimulants.
T+1:05 I was looking through my notes so far, and noticed I did not capitalize the first letter in a couple sentences. Normally my OCD prevents me from making such errors, and when I see them I'm very irked. However when I saw them just now, I had no anxiety or compulsion to fix them. I fixed them anyways because I knew I'd be bothered by them later. Even on high doses of MDMA, I still care about errors like that, but usually it is too difficult to fix them so I ignore them. Right now though, I'm not bothered by them and perfectly able to fix them.
T+1:15 Turned on some uplifting trance music. Experiencing definite music enhancement, and it seems a little harder to concentrate with it playing. I feel slightly absorbed into it. Euphoria feels more "real" than the euphoria from MDMA. MDMA always has me feeling like I'm excessively happy/loving for no reason. This euphoria feels more along the lines of extremely content/satisfied with everything.
T+1:20 Track's over. Sensing some feelings of time dialation. Felt like about 15 minutes had gone by, and only 5 minutes had gone by. Instead of racing thoughts, my mind is very calm and very peaceful. Thoughts come slowly. Slightly difficult to focus, but it doesn't bother me.
T+1:25 Measured heart rate/blood pressure: 168 sys/100 dia/107 bpm. Body high is starting to go away, but my mind still feels calm. Went to smoke a cigarette.
T+1:40 Euphoria is almost gone. Measured heart rate/blood pressure: 171 sys/97 dia/113 bpm.
T+2:00 Euphoria is gone, I do still have an "after roll" type lingering feeling in my gut. Measured heart rate/blood presure: 154 sys / 101 dia / 111 bpm. Systolic is returning to baseline slowly at this point. Mind still feels calm and relaxed more so than usual. I probably won't notice at this point when the drugs effects on my mind have worn off though, so ending the log here.
T+3:20 I feel very mellow, I could easily sleep if I wanted to. Very serene feeling. I love this come down.
Final thoughts: I really like this molecule. There are two down sides though. The feeling of euphoria doesn't seem to last very long, and the cardiovascular effects to euporia ratio is a little high. The latter makes me a bit nervous.
If you consider the cardiovascular risks as a trade off, the cost is higher for BK-MBDB compared to other drugs per "unit" of euphoria. The increased cardiovascular effects seem to last longer than the euphoria as well, and this could make redosing seeking the euphoria potentially dangerous.
Also considering the pronounced effect on the cardiovascular system, mixing with stimulants could be very dangerous. At T+1:25 I smoked a cigarette over 10 minutes and at T+1:40 when I measured my vitals again my systolic was 36 units higher than baseline.
I will probably be trying a lower dosage next time, to see how the euphoria/cardiovascular effects scale. If I do try a higher dosage at a later time, I'll refrain from using nicotine and keep a valium ready in case blood pressure gets to high and makes me nervous.
Addendum:
The calming effect was described by a friend of mine as similar to the calming effect he gets from cannabis. I'm hypersensitive to cannibinoids so I have no personal experience with it to correlate. However if this is the same feeling other people get with cannabis, I definitely see the appeal of it.
The content/satisfied feeling is very similar to the content/satisfied feeling I get on low doses of tryptamines (mushrooms or LSD). Where everything just feels "right" and as it should be.
Setting: At home, reading a book.
Experience with BK-MBDB: First time.
Experience with drugs in general: Very experienced
Height: 5'10" (177 cm)
Weight: 225 lb (102 kg)
Cardiovascular Baseline: 135 systolic, 90 diastolic, 90 bpm
T-0:30 Ate a couple muffins for breakfast.
T+0:00 Took 160mg in a capsule (0.7mg/lb, 1.57mg/kg).
T+0:35 Effects are noticeable. Feeling slightly euphoric and energetic. Went to smoke a cigarette.
T+0:50 Measured heart rate and blood pressure. 161 sys/106 dia/105 bpm. Began writing these notes.
T+0:55 Feels very similar to MDMA at this point, but with some noticeable differences. The biggest difference is mental. My mind feels clear, and doesn't feel like it's racing. I feel cognitively sober. The body high feels like MDMA, and I do have a huge "cuddle" desire. The feeling is slightly overwhelming and I could no longer continue reading my book. I have the desire to be productive or to do something, but it's not a compulsion like I feel on normal stimulants.
T+1:05 I was looking through my notes so far, and noticed I did not capitalize the first letter in a couple sentences. Normally my OCD prevents me from making such errors, and when I see them I'm very irked. However when I saw them just now, I had no anxiety or compulsion to fix them. I fixed them anyways because I knew I'd be bothered by them later. Even on high doses of MDMA, I still care about errors like that, but usually it is too difficult to fix them so I ignore them. Right now though, I'm not bothered by them and perfectly able to fix them.
T+1:15 Turned on some uplifting trance music. Experiencing definite music enhancement, and it seems a little harder to concentrate with it playing. I feel slightly absorbed into it. Euphoria feels more "real" than the euphoria from MDMA. MDMA always has me feeling like I'm excessively happy/loving for no reason. This euphoria feels more along the lines of extremely content/satisfied with everything.
T+1:20 Track's over. Sensing some feelings of time dialation. Felt like about 15 minutes had gone by, and only 5 minutes had gone by. Instead of racing thoughts, my mind is very calm and very peaceful. Thoughts come slowly. Slightly difficult to focus, but it doesn't bother me.
T+1:25 Measured heart rate/blood pressure: 168 sys/100 dia/107 bpm. Body high is starting to go away, but my mind still feels calm. Went to smoke a cigarette.
T+1:40 Euphoria is almost gone. Measured heart rate/blood pressure: 171 sys/97 dia/113 bpm.
T+2:00 Euphoria is gone, I do still have an "after roll" type lingering feeling in my gut. Measured heart rate/blood presure: 154 sys / 101 dia / 111 bpm. Systolic is returning to baseline slowly at this point. Mind still feels calm and relaxed more so than usual. I probably won't notice at this point when the drugs effects on my mind have worn off though, so ending the log here.
T+3:20 I feel very mellow, I could easily sleep if I wanted to. Very serene feeling. I love this come down.
Final thoughts: I really like this molecule. There are two down sides though. The feeling of euphoria doesn't seem to last very long, and the cardiovascular effects to euporia ratio is a little high. The latter makes me a bit nervous.
If you consider the cardiovascular risks as a trade off, the cost is higher for BK-MBDB compared to other drugs per "unit" of euphoria. The increased cardiovascular effects seem to last longer than the euphoria as well, and this could make redosing seeking the euphoria potentially dangerous.
Also considering the pronounced effect on the cardiovascular system, mixing with stimulants could be very dangerous. At T+1:25 I smoked a cigarette over 10 minutes and at T+1:40 when I measured my vitals again my systolic was 36 units higher than baseline.
I will probably be trying a lower dosage next time, to see how the euphoria/cardiovascular effects scale. If I do try a higher dosage at a later time, I'll refrain from using nicotine and keep a valium ready in case blood pressure gets to high and makes me nervous.
Addendum:
The calming effect was described by a friend of mine as similar to the calming effect he gets from cannabis. I'm hypersensitive to cannibinoids so I have no personal experience with it to correlate. However if this is the same feeling other people get with cannabis, I definitely see the appeal of it.
The content/satisfied feeling is very similar to the content/satisfied feeling I get on low doses of tryptamines (mushrooms or LSD). Where everything just feels "right" and as it should be.
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the 4-fma was no more euphoric than MPA for example... I will get around to doing it though. I had been Hammering meph for days though so I skewed my results a far bit!