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Bipolar and drug use?

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Pony10

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Hiya folks :)

recently been diagnosed with bipolar disorder...

was wondering if there was any other drug users out there who are also on the same boat as myself? Or any users who have any evidence that I should stay clear of weed, mdma, coke (on occasion), mushrooms and acid?

I know this is quite a broad question but any help is valuable to me, thank you.

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Hi, I tried to pm you but your box was full. None of those drugs are good with bipolar but if you had to stay away from only one of them? I'd say coke.
 
I would say stay away from acid and shrooms; I once knew a young man who dropped some acid, and went off the deep end for about two weeks. No one was sure how much he had taken, but some of his closer friends found him wandering around with no shoes basically acting like an eight year old. It turns out there was some bi polar people in his family, although he himself had not been diagnosed. He was committed for a few weeks, but is now seemingly back to normal.

Weed is no big deal, I bet you would be fine. Coke is so violent with the ups and downs; I'd definitely stay clear of that. Ecstasy seems risky in my opinion as well... All that serotonin being dumped at once can not be good for an already abnormal brain.

I have often wonders if I was bi polar myself... Just curious, how did you get diagnosed? Did you take a bunch of psychological tests and such? I am interested because I was thinking of talking to my doc about it.
 
its different for everyone im thinking. im bipolar and i have to watch out for opiates and stimulants mainly. they are fine while im actually high, the week later is what gets me. benzos will do the same if i over indulge for multiple days, typically if i take a normal dose for no longer than 2 days i will be fine wont have a harsh comedown. i use cannabis daily without a problem and i occasionally use mdma and psychedelics/dissociatives without a problem as well. i would just pace your self and not over indulge with anything, maybe always start with a lighter dose than what you think you need and slowly up the dose if you want to. i have noticed my mind is a hell of a lot more clouded when i have been using drugs more frequently.
 
Im not bipolar but i have known a few and it seems they are almost always more likely to have problems with benzos and stims.
 
I'm bipolar.
Stay away from coke. Weed is treating me good these days but it made me anxious for years. Any hallucinogens aren't necessarily a bad thing but I would say tread lightly there. I love them and have become absolutely enlightened from them. If you're young though hallucinogens probably aren't a great idea because they can really magnify psychological issues. Mdma, ehh I'd say ur good just don't overdo it.
Seriously though cocaine and speed led me to the darkest times in my life. The mood swings from that on top of having a chemical imbalance are very hard to deal with.
If you can handle benzos cool but man they are, for one, trouble for anyone with an addictive personality and two they are a bitch to detox from. I can pretty much handle being on them but I had hallucinations, seizures, and the whole nine when i finally came off of them. I heard demons telling me to kill myself and my family, very paranoid delusions, and slept about 10 mins. A night for a month. That was cold turkey but just a word to the wise anyone with a depressive illness needn't go through that shit.

Oh and in response to how u get diagnosed.... If you're actively using theres no way to make an accurate diagnosis of bipolar disorder. I was clean for a year and a half and the symptoms were still very evident. I have manic episodes and long periods of depression.
Anyone having issues with this I'm 100% here for you I know how it is.
 
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In order to get diagnosed it takes years usually and it I'd usually after puberty because sometimes people confuse teenage moodiness with bipolar. I was at an inpatient facility for a year and after months of "therapy " and finding out my family history (my grandma and dad are both manic depressive) they came to a conclusion of my diagnosis. I'm a heroin addict and my dads a crack addict but when we take our meds We generally don't feel the need to use but I haven't taken meds in three years I hate side effects.
 
Have u tried lamictal? I have no side effects from it at all and have been through the bs of guinea pigging trying to find the right med
 
I am also bipolar and my own theory is I fucked up my brain chemistry with meth and speed while I was 16. I will can't handle amphetamines very well - seems pointless to induce depression my brain is capable providing with no help. But ex and eph occasionally doesn't seem to hit me very hard.
 
Be careful wi th stimulants, primarily! Mania is pretty much identical to a stimulant high, characterized by increased dopamine....

Doing cocaine/adderall/meth while you're in a manic state could trigger psychosis....
That is to say, delusions, hallucinations, paranoia, etc.....

I guess it all depends where you're at with your bipolar cycle.....

I have periods of being completely normal and I can use drugs like a "normalL person during these periods....
However, when I'm going through mania/depression, it's different, definitely....
I'd say, be the most careful with cocaine/stimulants....

IMO, as a manic type person diagnosed with bipolar I.... S
Stimulants are the worst thing to play with, but it's different for everyone...
 
SineWaveSoldier pretty much nailed it. Everyone is different, but in my personal manic experience, I would recommend staying away from stims and benzos. These are the drugs that will "un-naturally" cause you to experience ups and downs (much like a sine wave, ha). It's just not a good idea.

That being said, I have a meeting at noon and am currently on the downswing. Haven't slept but an hour tonight maybe. Why? The storm on the east coast has delayed my shipment of benzos from Europe. How am I going to fix it? Probably insufflating 75 mg of amphetamine sulfate at 10 am. Mania: The gift that keeps on giving.
 
I've been told before that there may be some link between mental illness and drug use/self-medicating, and, so far as I can tell, there seems to be some truth to it.

Ever since I was 17, they've bounced around the idea that I may be bi-polar, but personally, I'm not too sure. Who really knows? I'm probably OCD as well, and perhaps borderline, too. ("Borderline" used to be a diagnosis given only to women, but things have changed and so men can now be considered "borderline" I guess.)

I definitely self-medicate, but whether it's bi-polar or just situational depression... who knows?
 
Bipolar to me most drugs can be bad - stims/psychedelics when I'm manic, opiates/etc when depressive.

Being addicted to opiates has actually flattened things out a lot, but i miss the crazy side of life terribly.

The idea with bipolar is to even out the peaks and troughs as much as possible, but when youre manic you dont want to take drugs that chill you out, and when youre depressive you dont want to be excited at a million miles an hour.. So you tend to make things worse. That said, like most bipolar people i feel like the manic side of me is an enormous potential that could be harnessed, and that the risk is worth it.. If you can separate your drug taking from your mood swings, it should be OK - ie, dont party because you feel manic, party because it is a saturday night or a weekend or whatever. Dont drink because you're depressed, drink because you're out with friends or something like that... Thats how I try to manage things - give them reasons that arent to do with my moods, and make myself do them regardless of how i feel at that point in time.. try to follow a schedule or rules beyond my feelings governing what i do.
 
I am Bi polar type 2 and yeah sometimes stim's and benzo's can get ugly if you overindulge in them but as long as you exercise self control. But I would mainly say acid and mushrooms. I went on some weird psychedelic bender had to be 3 years ago now that i think of it. My bi polar had gotten terrible to the point where I was stealing and shit just to keep a supply of opiates and benzos to keep my ass from flyin' off the handle. About a few month's after the binge I had cut my leg so fucking deep it was like 1/8 or more through my fucking leg and after it happened I spent the next few hours trying to clean up the blood that was covering my kitchen floor before i resided to my bed when I realized It wasn't going to stop and i resided to my bed expecting to die. Needless to say I didn't die and a few weeks later I met my current girlfriend who I now have a son with. To this day that's the closest thing I have to making me wanna believe there's a god up there. It's like I didn't die to meet her I must have lost half my blood. I was anemic after that incident.
 
I wouldn't trade the spiritual insight from psychedelics for anything. I can't quote shit its too troublesome to do from my phone. Lost the cord to the laptop dammit.
I've read this whole thread i'll add more to it...Cartesia I feel you on the opiates its just I can't stay high forever and my moodswings from that were going to lead me to kill myself. It seems like everything is getting worse and toying with withdrawal is dangerous. On top of all of the heartache and loss in my life, on top of every fucked up thought that goes through my head (i hate my intelligence sometimes id rather be dull and numb to it all), and on top of the fact that i was born with manic depression i also have the terrible itch to get and stay high every which way whenever i feel like it.
Does God really want me here lol. Thats a joke but a fucking cruel one.

Odd how we come to enjoy mania. I don't doubt it spikes creativity tho. I enjoy it; I'm not the type to enjoy the other side if it. No lie im starting to fear my very near future. I was in long term treatment last year in deep depression. If it hits this year as bad as i feel it coming on; i should check myself back into the psych ward. I highly doubt this will happen. Im scared,im tired, im hungry, and i dont know. I really don't. I cant fucking keep getting high cause it doesn't do it anymore. No amount of oblivion works for me I just want it all to be over
All this sounds so whiny I hate to bitch i just don't really want to die either. How bipolar is that. Have i not done enough in this life or have i done too much to continue lol
 
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I understand what you mean sometime I just wanna die so fucking bad when I hit my extreme lows and I'll be telling my girlfriend I don't wanna die while talking about how much i just need a shotgun to blow my head off. I'm bi polar type 2 though I get hypomania and extreme depression. At times I go back and forth multiple times a day or hour or less.
 
Yeah I'm daily up and down. I'm still here; I'll make it. I've come way too far to give up but I'll be one hundred about how i feel on the way there.
 
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