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i against i said:
deuteronomy 22:28-29

this (along with other) bible verse killed christianity for me. a god who once commanded this bullshit isn't worthy of worship. how can this be explained or defended?
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I could take this a few directions; some might say:
There are those who have not or can not find their guiding-light, and will seek a source much the same as nocturnal animals and insects. Some seem to live chasing what ever light they can see, while others remain insightful of such spectacles and are cautiously weary and questioning.

I do not believe Deuteronomy to be the word of God. But rather the word of many wishing to create such a 'guiding-light' to ultimately cause a separation between the seeking masses, and the found.
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Or -
:D

Back then it was suggested a girl to remain a virgin until she married, and this would make it impossible morally for a man to have sex with an unmarried women.

"Rape" is a bastardized term used to defile or deface anything from its original context, origin, or an act carried out which causes repercussions unto another without their consent. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 could be considered 'statutory rape' or a civil-suit. Their act also was not contrived in love, if the act of man and women making love is sacred, and to be shared in such a way only in marriage.

"and they are discovered"
If upon discovery their act of lust and pride will wreck the fathers(head of house)of the girl in questions pride, and upon consequence the families esteem publicly too. So the boy in question must pay her father with money, which more then likely would of come from his father and family. The money would be to only try and re-compensate the pride issue, the marriage* would be an attempt to prove or establish love. It is an attempt to create a balance, a social scale of justice.

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*this seems to instigate a massive social-disharmony
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Portillo said:
"Out of the eater came forth meat, and out of the strong came forth sweetness." - Judges 14:14

Who can solve Samson's riddle?
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NSFW:

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to break obstacles, through your 'valley of shadows and doubt'

Om Gam Ganapataye Namaha
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a different perspective...?
 
I am writing to you about those who would deceive you
but the Oil you received from him remains within you
and you really need no teaching from anyone;
simply remain in him,
for his Oil teaches you about everything
and is true
and is no lie.
Remain in him
as his Oil has taught you to do.
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1 St. John 1,26
 
i against i said:
deuteronomy 22:28-29

this (along with other) bible verse killed christianity for me. a god who once commanded this bullshit isn't worthy of worship. how can this be explained or defended?
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The Old Testament and the laws of its covenant are valuable more as background info than anything to Christianity, as it is law and folk mythology to the Jews. The New Testament (we have the life of Jesus in the Gospels, the acts of the apostles, a bunch of epistles, and revelations) is really what should be important to the Gentile Christian.

Furthermore, you're looking at it from a modern historical perspective, at the time you must consider that the raped woman would be considered defiled and unworthy to be wed by many persons. Due to the patriarchal society their economic and social value was tied to whom they would marry, leaving daughters unwed would make them a drain the resources of their birth family, who would have to support them thenceforth. So this law has recompense for the birth family for not allowing them to choose who their daughter would marry, and removes from them the burden of keeping her. So passages we find morally abhorrent now may have been progressive or at least very pragmatic at the time. It's not quite as stark a contrast as that presented by Islam (which was a great boon for women's rights compared to the system it replaced)...I really don't care about the things listed in this paragraph at all, but it's something to consider.
 
Seeing as we are discussing works of fiction......

"Hallo, Rabbit," he said, "is that you?" "Let's pretend it isn't," said Rabbit, "and see what happens."...

As profound as anything in the bible.
 
Mathew 10:34
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword"

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I dont give a cats whisker about a rabbits foot.
AH 8-25
 
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webbykevin said:
Seeing as we are discussing works of fiction......

"Hallo, Rabbit," he said, "is that you?" "Let's pretend it isn't," said Rabbit, "and see what happens."...

As profound as anything in the bible.
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Sorry to disappoint. =D
 
webbykevin said:
Seeing as we are discussing works of fiction......

"Hallo, Rabbit," he said, "is that you?" "Let's pretend it isn't," said Rabbit, "and see what happens."...

As profound as anything in the bible.
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Whatever makes you feel better about yourself.
 
Has anyone ever looked at the prophets of the Old Testament? My wife thinks this section is roughly equivalent to a separate compilation that Jews call the Haf'torah. I remember going to church as a kid, and the second Bible reading would always be from one of the prophets. I seldom ever got much out of what these guys, especially Isaiah, wrote. It was very poetic and cryptic, very much open to multiple interpretations. I get the sense much was lost in translation, which is the same feeling I get from the Book of Revelations. Christians read these prophets and see foreshadowing of Jesus, and consider their work divinely inspired. I'd be more interested, though, in seeing how their contemporaries, who shared the same cultural and historical reference points, interpreted their riddles and rhymes.

I remember laying awake in bed after flying into Tel Aviv, and hearing all the city sounds outside. All I could think of was Isaiah's image of "someone shouting in the desert" (often interpreted by Christians as a foreshadowing of John the Baptist), and wondered how long it had been since the place I was sleeping had been a quiet desert landscape where one man's shouting could be heard. I reflected from there on just how far the land of Israel and the Jewish people had come since the time of the prophets, and how most of the citizens of Tel Aviv had long forsaken such things as prophecy. I wanted to just tune out the city sounds and listen very hard, to see if I could still pick up any omens still lingering around this ancient land, if there ever were any to be picked up, and I spent the rest of my time in Israel watching for any sign of divine intervention.
 
Too much focus on left brain thinking in our education system.. people tend to read religious books too logically, it's meant to be interpreted broadly, creatively - not literally word-for-word...
 
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