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Best natural psychedelic with little nausea?

I've never experienced any nausea on shrooms, but others have... Cacti can make you vomit, but I never did (it was a close call though). I heard that mesc all by itself is an emetic, so I'd beware of that. I'm not sure smoking DMT would be an option where you're going. You could chew salvia, but that's not really one to use in public. What does that leave? You can eat large amounts of cannabis, which would be more hallucinogenic than smoking it. Lots of colors and CEVs from that one, though a bit more confusing than other psychs.

But really, if you consider that Stonehenge was built by humans, and is not a naturally-occurring phenomenon, why not just drop some acid?
 
Take psychedelic mushrooms! Can you get other ones besides Liberty caps?

You won't get nauseous if you fast or don't eat for at least 2 hours before you take them.

Don't put them into a food but just eat them plain as they taste good IME.

I've found that drinking ginger in hot water can help with nausea but that worked when I accidentally ate too much herb and got horrible stomach cramps.

If you can't find mushrooms just take some very high dose LSD. You won't get sick from that.

I've been to Stonehenge and yeah there are lots of tourists.
 
DMT can make the user feel nausea or a stomach ache type feeling. But nothing unbearable.

GratefulFloyd said:
Smoking DMT is not nauseating, go with that, otherwise mushrooms sometimes induce nausea, but it usually goes away.
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I've never felt any nausea while smoking DMT or stomach discomfort, it usually disconnects you from your body enough to where you would not even know that you have a stomach. Erowid says nothing about smoked DMT inducing nausea, but it does say slight stomach discomfort is possible. Only time I ever feel discomfort is when I eat too soon going in to a DMT trip.
 
slush puppie said:
My friend wants to go away for a couple of days for his birthday, so I was thinking we could go to Stonehenge and trip together for the first time (his first trip ever). He has quite a phobia of vomiting though. Hopefully weed and meclizine will counter this, however he doesn't like taking pills either so it may be that he chooses not to take the meclizine.

Would really like us to take a naturally occuring psychedelic rather than LSD or a 2C, given the setting and all. Liberty caps not an option, no stockpile. Hawaiian baby woodrose are usually pretty sickening for me, no matter what I do with them (soaking, peeling, burning etc), also I don't rate the trip that much. I am yet to try mesc in any of its forms, would love to hear your nausea-related experiences on this, and anything else you can think of.

As always, your opinions would be greatly appreciated! :)
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Well it's nearly that time of year already (copious amounts of rain required first though) for mushy season to start early. I'd go mushy picking if the conditions are right but just don't eat em raw, dry them out on the lowest non-fan assisted oven setting with the door wide open in known quantity batches (i.e. 25) You don't actually need that many depending on their size/strength.

mescaline is the worst of them all for causing vomathons. Will never forget my mate boiling 100grams of san pedro for 8 hours to get a dose of mescal. then watching him chew on the gelatenous green snot and then spend 4 hours barfing without getting any psychedelic effects whatsoever. hahaha fun times =D
 
You haven't left yourself open to many options unfortunately. Is there any specific reasons you only wish for a 'natural' psychedelic? As this experience sounded perfect for LSD, mushrooms would be my second option - I find as long as you don't eat beforehand you will only experience mild nausea at the beginning of the trip. Most psychedelics I find can create a sense of nausea at times you just have to bare with them. If you enjoyed LSA why not look into a cold water extraction to aid against nausea?
 
Thank you all for your input. You worked very well with the very limited options I gave you! The trip has been shelved for the near future, but thanks in particular for the Avebury tip, that is definitely somewhere to consider over the apparent tourist bullshit of Stonehenge (and yes, I know it's a man-made structure, but it is the ley line alignment underneath that really interests me).

Eating ginger/drinking ginger tea DEFINITELY seems worth a try (wish it didn’t taste quite so disgusting though), also peppermint tea. Thanks for the mention of scopolamine but I would probably choose ginger over that from what I have read.

I’ve concluded overall that shrooms once they are in season are probably the best idea, if not then:
SpecialK_ said:
If you enjoyed LSA why not look into a cold water extraction to aid against nausea?
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I haven't heard SUPER great things about cold water extraction, but a possible sublingual administration of LSA may be worth a try. I don’t know if it’s even possible to keep that crap under your tongue for 25 minutes+ but hey, having had the worst, most unrelenting sickness ever after eating baby woodrose seeds, anything is worth a try! (Also LSA isn't the best trip mentally, but I'm sure will be fine at a low-moderate dose).

Particularly this thread has confirmed that I need to stay away from the mesc where my barf-hating friend is concerned! Still very much looking forward to my first mescaline purge and trip though :) Thanks again guys!
 
Great Things about CWE with HBWR... Now you've heard it. 15 Hawaiian strain HBWR seeds were placed in 1 cup of distilled water after being crushed thoroughly with a sledgehammer. Every 10 minutes I would shake the bottle incessantly for 1 minute, and place back in the fridge for 10 more minutes. I did this for 1 hour 16minutes. The water was a dark green color. At this point I drank the liquid, which tasted like water, and the seeds that were sitting in the water. I threw up very easily and minimally one time and then there was no more stomach discomfort at all. The overall "nausea" associated with this method for me is about from +30min from ingestion to +1:30. 1 hour during a 10 hour trip that is more enjoyable than most psychedelics is well worth it. The euphoria and deep self realization is amazing and pleasant for a first time tripper. This would be a great option imo.
 
I would say DMT is a good route to go if you can get your hands on it. Deems is 100% natural and produces profound psychedelia! As you already know Im sure. I've tripped on it 35+ times and never even had the thought of nausea go through my mind =)
 
Haha tricky question, most natural psychedelics do produce nausea.

I'd say dried mushrooms in some cream of mushroom soup, or mushroom tea.

IMO, DMT does not count as entirely natural because it is "processed".
 
I think that with bufotenin you are still likely to puke your guts out, aren't you? I thought it did have suspect toxic-like effects...

Yes, here is the TIHKAL entry:

QUALITATIVE COMMENTS : (with 1 mg, intravenously, over a three minute period) "Within a minute (from the start of the injection) I had a tight feeling in my chest and my face felt as if it had been jabbed by nettles and this lasted for about 6 minutes. I had fleeting nausea."

(with 2 mg, intravenously, over a 3 minute period) "I felt a tightness in my throat and stomach and it seemed that my pulse was racing, although apparently there was no change in either my pulse or blood pressure."

(with 4 mg, intravenously, over a 3 minute period) "During the injection, I first felt a burning sensation in my face, then a load pressing down from above, and then a numbness of the entire body. I saw red and black spots -- a vivid orange-red -- moving around. Apparently my purplish face color lasted some 15 minutes, well after my visual things had disappeared."

(with 8 mg, intravenously, over a 3 minute period) "I became lightheaded as soon as the injection started, and then my face turned purple and I became nauseated and I felt I couldn't breathe. I see white, straight lines with a black background. I can't trace a pattern. Now there are red, green and yellow dots, very bright like they were made out of fluorescent cloth, moving like blood cells through capillaries, weaving in and out of the white lines. I another two minutes, everything was pretty much gone."

(with 10 mg, intravenously, over a 50 second period) "My face was suddenly very hot. I could not breathe fast enough."

(with 10 mg, intravenously, over a 77 minute period) "There were no psychological changes."

(with 16 mg, intravenously, over a 3 minute period) "Almost immediately I felt a burning sensation in the roof of my mouth and I felt a tingling all over my body. My face turned purple, and my chest feels crushed. Everything has a yellow haze, and I was sweating heavily and I vomited. Words can't come. My mind feels crowded. When I start on a thought, another one comes along and clashes with it. I can't express myself clearly. I am here and not here. It has now been forty minutes and I feel better, but I still feel like I would like to walk it off, like a hang-over."
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Also, a relatively pure product seems quite hard to come by.
 
The literature on bufotenine is really inconsistent, but I imagine it has some level of GI discomfort.
OP: why are you so set on a natural compound that doesn't induce neusea? Most natural source of psychedelics are very potent at generating emesis. I think you are gonna be stuck with GI discomfort unless you take a light and clearheaded RC.
 
Salvia divinorum?
Cannabis edibles?
Maybe make some changa (DMT herb blend) and smoke it slowly and carefully?
Perhaps mescaline cactus tea would be good, if you can spend the come-up out of the public's view... (the cactus tea tastes vile, you'll be puking very likely, but you will enjoy the next 9 hours afterwards)

Like others have said, there are few natural psychedelics that don't cause nausea. After all, serotonin does play a role in regulating your digestion, and it is rare that natural products contain *only* hallucinogenic compounds, and none with activity in other ways. Some psychedelics, especially LSA and higher doses of tryptamines, have a propesnity to cause vomiting even if taken in a pure form, and even on "clean" psychedelics one can get into a nauseating situation.

You may just have to account for the fact that you might be a little nauseous on the come-up. Marijuana, ginger tea, etc help to some extent too. Try to avoid taking Rx antinauseants as some of them can interfere with your trip.
 
Really, can something like ondansetron have negative interactions?
 
I was thinking of more "general" antiemetics like dimenhydrinate. I personally don't know, but I would expect more selective antieletics to work better than broad-spectrum/antimuscarinic ones.
 
When you throw up, its your body ridding itself of waste products. If you're going to like just let it out, its doing nothing good for your body and taking anti-nausea medicines are going to trap that unwanted waste in your body which definitely isn't healthy for you to do at all. Just throw up, purging is a part of the process. Of you can't take a little stomach discomfort and throwing up than you don't deserve the reward of tripping. Find something else.

**My mom is a nurse and told never to take anti nausea medicine unless prescribed by a doctor because of this very reason. I have GAD and for awhile was prescribed finnergan and while I was I did NOT trip for this very reason..**
 
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^ that is simply not true. The gut contains massive amounts of serotonin receptors and I suspect that is why psychedelics induce emesis. Vomiting will ruin the lining of your esophagus, and the mucousol lining of your throat and mouth. Plus it's just damn uncomfortable. If you can keep it in, do it.

Just because your mother is a nurse, does not mean that she knows about 5HT2a agonist emesis and GI discomfort. In fact she probably has no idea what mechanisms are involved and what anti-emetic would be most suitable.
 
You're a dumbass^^^.... Google that shit before you go making shit up. I just googled... Terrible to keep yourself from puking if nausea persists. Puking can obviously cause esphogaul damage because of the HCL in your stomach has a natural acidity, but if your tripping so much that your puking so often that you destroy your esophagus than you're probably already fried by that point. Please don't keep yourself from puking...
 
5h2-antagonists are for antihistamines people and serotonin receptors are only located in the brain. Please don't take anyone else's word for it do your own research.
 
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