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Best Godfather, I or II?

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Timeless debate about which one was better.

I don't have cable any more so I bought the trilogy this weekend and sat down and took my time watching them.

both have their qualities. Number 1 there is plenty more violence, breasts, and a "war".

in number II, the story of young Vito Corleone (played by Robert Deniro) is great to follow.



Yer thoughts?
 
That's a tough choice, but I gotta go with 1. Sonny Corleone is a badass motherfucker and he dies like a champ. Also, the story of how Michael goes from preppy college kid to a killer is easily as engaging as the story of Vito in number 2. The Corleone victory in the end where they waste all the other Families is awesome, and even though they have that in every Godfather movie the first time around it's always the best.
 
I guess, I should give a reason too huh? 2 reminds me of a beautiful Greek tragedy, especially with Fredo.
 
Tough question.

I go with one. But only by the width of the thread of the finest silk a spider can make.
For the reasons Benefit listed.
 
Godfather Part 1 in a canter. I enjoyed the plot so much more. The second one was more about killing anyone suspicious. If it wasn't for the magnificant performance of Robert De Nero (which is also my all time favorite character performance), Part 2 would have been a scratching before the race began.
 
L O V E L I F E said:
What "trilogy?"

III never happened!

Understood?
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The first rule of The Godfather Part III is : you do not talk about the Godfather Part III.

(I'd just like to point out that in my opinion Sophia Coppola has since redeemed herself. Her father on the other hand....)



Back on topic :

I'd have to go with Part II, by a whisker.

De Niro's performance is stunning & the story of Vito I found incredibly compelling & enriched by the period setting. Having seen Part II, the character of Vito as portrayed by Brando in Part I takes on a whole new meaning & resonance.

The character of Michael just explodes in Part II. His progression by the end into an utterly ruthless bastard is handled so well. It could so easily have been over the top & utterly unsympathetic, but Pacino further instils Michael with a whole host of conflicting sides above & beyond those he had in Part I, that make you both hate him & pity him - a very difficult thing to pull off.

I agree with Tanuki_23 - Part II plays out like an ancient Greek tragedy.

It fleshes out the story immeasurably & turns the whole thing into a truly epic, sweeping saga.

It is very tricky to choose between the two though - they're both undeniably classic, classic films. They certainly don't make 'em like that anymore.
Ahhh, The Godfather - truly a league apart......
 
one thing i could never figure out about a scene in part II where Danny Aiello's (sp?) character tries to strangle Frank Pentangeline (sp?) he say's-

"Micheal Corleone say's hello"

well, Micheal Corleone didn't order his murder, it was the other mob boss....ummmm, can't think of his name. i think it was the Salatzo (sp?) Brothers.

so, i was thinking maybe he said it to throw him off and make him think it was really Micheal Corleone and not the Salatzo bros., but what would it matter who he thought ordered his murder because he was in the process of being murdered and would have been murdered if not for the beat cop walking by and coming in the tavern.

anyway, apparently Danny Aiello ad-libbed this line and they let it in the movie, but it doesn't make sense.
 
from imdb trivia for the movie:

"Danny Aiello said that his line "Michael Corleone says hello" was completely ad-libbed and it came right out of nowhere. When Coppola ended the shot and asked what he just said, Aiello repeated it and Francis loved it and asked him to do it again."

alasdair
 
L O V E L I F E said:
What "trilogy?"

III never happened!

Understood?
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hahaha!

Picking a favorite Godfather movie is a bit like choosing your favorite Monkee -- it's impossible. Each movie is damn close to perfect and has influenced cinema for the last 30 years. Many years ago (14), I read a Time magazine interview with Nicholas "The Crow" Caramandi, a former right-hand man of a Philly crime boss which had some good insights on the films...

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Q. George Anastasia, the Mob chronicler, is coming out with a book, Blood and Honor, about your 30 years as a gangster. This is the stuff that makes for great movies. Are any of the recent Mafia films accurate in their portrayal of what the life is like?

A. I saw Godfather III. It stunk. I didn't think much of the plot, and I didn't see any good reviews of it either. Godfather I was pretty close ((to the real thing)), and Godfather II was good, but this one was farfetched. I remember sitting there and thinking, If these suckers in the theater only knew they were sitting with the real McCoy.

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How about I pass on the question and just say go watch the Godfather Saga instead? ;)
 
alasdairm said:
from imdb trivia for the movie:

"Danny Aiello said that his line "Michael Corleone says hello" was completely ad-libbed and it came right out of nowhere. When Coppola ended the shot and asked what he just said, Aiello repeated it and Francis loved it and asked him to do it again."
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yeah, i said he ad-libbed it.

and it still doesn't make any sense, they should have shot the scene over.
 
2 for sure.. The back story of young Vito Corleone making his way in the world from a young boy to a young man !!

All of it was good really..

"I know it was you Fredo. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!"
 
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