Thecrazylady
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With the new OxyContin and Opanas being terribly difficult to crush or abuse what is the best long acting med to use? I use Roxi 30's for break thru and love them but need a new ER med.
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Opioids Best ER opiate
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bayhead415
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I honestly think morphine formulations are the best specifically opana ER even with its low BA as it has very little side effects (raised heart rate, slow pounding heart feeling, heavy warm head feeling, nausea, and other neutral to negative effects) at the level it produces sedation and analgesia in my opinion. There are not any hydromorphone ER in the states apparently so that leaves you with morphine or oxymorphone. I prefer opana ER for nighttime use while using a codeine formulation during the daytime where I use a half 10/325 mg hydrocodone every 4 hours if needed. I wish there was a hydrocodone ER, which will not be out until the end of the month although the OC er should be just as good if you need it as well as the only ER codeine and related compound formulation available that I know of.
Although these recommendations are for pain management and not abuse. Hell if you have roxi ER just abuse those to boost the other medication you take properly if you really feel the need to abuse the medication that you should be doing your best to not raise your tolerance so you can use it effectively at a lower dose for a longer time. A good recommendation is to eat a fatty meal when you use the opana as it is supposed to raise the BA to 30% just 10% under nasal administration based on a study by endo, which will make it more effective and I found to be able to enable me to get to a recreational nodding dose around 30 mg oral where I use about 10-20 mg a night in lines of about 1-2.5 mg.
Trust me though... There are better things to use for recreational while with this compound/drug is better to respect and use as medication or in my opinion at the tail end of psychedelic trip to help to prevent the body from becoming tense making it easier to sleep. I am sure you have heard it 100s of times, but trust me addictions are no joke and easier sneak up on you and bite you in the ass and does not let go for a long time.
Edit: To the person below I honestly recommended to stick with opana and just eat fatty foods when dosing as I find opana to have less negative side effects while morphine takes just as much as opana to work, but causes more side effects as well as in my case was very ineffective used all ROA besides IV/IM.
Although these recommendations are for pain management and not abuse. Hell if you have roxi ER just abuse those to boost the other medication you take properly if you really feel the need to abuse the medication that you should be doing your best to not raise your tolerance so you can use it effectively at a lower dose for a longer time. A good recommendation is to eat a fatty meal when you use the opana as it is supposed to raise the BA to 30% just 10% under nasal administration based on a study by endo, which will make it more effective and I found to be able to enable me to get to a recreational nodding dose around 30 mg oral where I use about 10-20 mg a night in lines of about 1-2.5 mg.
Trust me though... There are better things to use for recreational while with this compound/drug is better to respect and use as medication or in my opinion at the tail end of psychedelic trip to help to prevent the body from becoming tense making it easier to sleep. I am sure you have heard it 100s of times, but trust me addictions are no joke and easier sneak up on you and bite you in the ass and does not let go for a long time.
Edit: To the person below I honestly recommended to stick with opana and just eat fatty foods when dosing as I find opana to have less negative side effects while morphine takes just as much as opana to work, but causes more side effects as well as in my case was very ineffective used all ROA besides IV/IM.
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Now that old school Opana and Oxycontin are gone I'm going to have to go with the poster above me: Morphine.
It has a lot going for it:
- Gold standard pain medication
- Proven track record of safe use in humans going back longer than anything else on the market
- All current ER preparations are easy to convert to IR (at least in the states).
- No one company has a patent on it or the "ER matrix" so it's dirt cheap and there are tons of generics in everything from your run of the mill tablet with a waxy coating to a capsule filled with beads.
The cons:
- Some people can't handle the side effects, like the histamine release.
- It is more sedating than Oxycodone.
- The BA when taken orally is very low and if you're looking for other ROAs to get more out of it I'll go ahead and tell you your only two options are up the poop shoot or the needle, snorting it is just wasting it btw. All of this _shouldn't_ really concern you though because your doctor should put you on a dosage that works for you.
_Hopefully_ that last con will keep ER morphine out of the media. The last thing we need a re-formulated morphine begin required by the FDA as the options for CPPs when it comes to ER medications are dwindling more and more every year.
Oh one last thing before I go! There is supposed to be an ER version of hydrocodone coming out in the states soon but I can not remember the name of it or who is producing it. All I remember is it's supposed to come out around Q4 2012. I'll let someone else chime in on that.
It has a lot going for it:
- Gold standard pain medication
- Proven track record of safe use in humans going back longer than anything else on the market
- All current ER preparations are easy to convert to IR (at least in the states).
- No one company has a patent on it or the "ER matrix" so it's dirt cheap and there are tons of generics in everything from your run of the mill tablet with a waxy coating to a capsule filled with beads.
The cons:
- Some people can't handle the side effects, like the histamine release.
- It is more sedating than Oxycodone.
- The BA when taken orally is very low and if you're looking for other ROAs to get more out of it I'll go ahead and tell you your only two options are up the poop shoot or the needle, snorting it is just wasting it btw. All of this _shouldn't_ really concern you though because your doctor should put you on a dosage that works for you.
_Hopefully_ that last con will keep ER morphine out of the media. The last thing we need a re-formulated morphine begin required by the FDA as the options for CPPs when it comes to ER medications are dwindling more and more every year.
Oh one last thing before I go! There is supposed to be an ER version of hydrocodone coming out in the states soon but I can not remember the name of it or who is producing it. All I remember is it's supposed to come out around Q4 2012. I'll let someone else chime in on that.
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