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best drug for charisma/humor

Tramadol never did anything for me. Took 400 mg once and got a very very mild opiate buzz.

10mg of hydrocodone does farrrr more for me.

Wish it did, people seem to get those far more often now, harder to find hydrocodones.
 
^it's a hit-or-miss drug. I know there are people who perceive almost no effects from it. While others (like myself) can get a nice high from a 400mg dose.

Very subjective drug.
 
^Sounds like an anxilotic benzo without too much sedation would be a good option. Or tramadol.. (Lol, I look like a salesman for the stuff) It kills anxiety, gives a mental boost and some euphoria. More than once have I seen people compare it to a very mild mdma-high. I know I'm more social while on tramadol. Stronger opiates make me wanna sit around, smoke some weed and get high(er).

Unless you like amphetamines? That tends to make people more social/talkative. It tends to make me paranoid though. :D
Some people also start blabbering nonsense. Which isn't the way forward either. :P
edit: Oh, then I guess amps aren't the answer.


Btw, functional drug-use is the most addicting kind IME.

one thing i know is that caffeine, makes me more talkative, but really drains me, makes me more anxious, fidgety, nervous, maybe even a bit paranoid, gives me horrible red-eye, light-headed, and i'm talking 1 shot of espresso...

so i'm not so sure i want to go the route of amphetamines....i've never experimented with coke because i have high blood pressure and im not a huge fan of turning into a chatterbox, i did 2 lines once and didn't notice anything except a cold drip down my throat...

with that said, i remember as a kid, i was prescribed wellbutrin (the smiley blue pills), and i would never take it except at summer camp (when they made me), looking back that is the last time i can really remember myself acting how i wanted, feeling uninhibited to a large extent, so i'm considering going to a psych for that


i'll be taking phenibut and 5-htp in a week....


tramadol seems like an interesting option, but i don't even know where i would begin to get some, xanax is easy, but the opiate pharms are hard to find for me out here (california)






...what's the least sedative benzo, and would you agree with other posters who say that low doses of xanax makes them feel more charming, or "on their A-game"
 
one thing i know is that caffeine, makes me more talkative, but really drains me, makes me more anxious, fidgety, nervous, maybe even a bit paranoid, gives me horrible red-eye, light-headed, and i'm talking 1 shot of espresso...

so i'm not so sure i want to go the route of amphetamines....i've never experimented with coke because i have high blood pressure and im not a huge fan of turning into a chatterbox, i did 2 lines once and didn't notice anything except a cold drip down my throat...

with that said, i remember as a kid, i was prescribed wellbutrin (the smiley blue pills), and i would never take it except at summer camp (when they made me), looking back that is the last time i can really remember myself acting how i wanted, feeling uninhibited to a large extent, so i'm considering going to a psych for that


i'll be taking phenibut and 5-htp in a week....


tramadol seems like an interesting option, but i don't even know where i would begin to get some, xanax is easy, but the opiate pharms are hard to find for me out here (california)






...what's the least sedative benzo, and would you agree with other posters who say that low doses of xanax makes them feel more charming, or "on their A-game"


bump
 
smooth amphetamines or amphetamines with low body load or in low amounts.
the big dopamine spike makes you feel uninhibited and talkative.
add a benzodiazepine or a couple of beers to counteract any anxious feelings.
well being, mental clarity, sharp mind, and extroverted/chatty demeanour.
it's important to get the combination and dose exactly right though, or you risk being too chatty/irritating/anxious/not stimulated enough.
for me, ethylphenidate 80mg + 1mg etizolam
or amphetamine sulphate 100mg + 10mg diazepam
or methamphetamine 0.03 - 0.05 + 10mg diazepam
would be perfect. that is only for me though.
i don't reccommend any drugs or any doses. drugs are bad mmmkay.

another point worth mentioning, from my owm experiences, adding a SMALL amount of psychedelics to the above mix is perfect for making people laugh and keeping people entertained. i'm a natural extrovert anyway, and usually make people laugh fairly easily, but the addition of a very samll amount of psychedelics enables me to think laterally and quickly derive humour from surrealism, word play, subversion, absurdism etc
something like 1 drop of low/mid strendth lsd
or half a tab depending on strength
alternatively a small quantity of psylocibin, a quarter of a dose or less. eg 2/3 mexican cubensis or 10/15 uk liberty caps.
not enough to hallucinate or feel anxious or impaired in your social capabilities.

My perfect ideal combo, based on past experience is this....
250ml Jack Daniels
and
0..05g methamphetamine
ingested over the course of 90 minutes
then
0.25g psylocibe cubensis
with
10mg diazepam
followed by another 0.25g of cubensis (dried) about half an hour later
then
absolute hilarity ensues without fail

each to their own though!
 
I think piracetam is something you should give a shot. It's not an intoxicant, but it will sharpen and focus your mind. It is particularly useful in conversation, and lends itself towards clever jokes. One thing it does particularly well is aid in word recall, so you won't have to pause in mid-sentence while you try to remember the name of something.
 
Honestly, sobriety + stepping outside of your confidence zone (with either low dose cannabis or mdma being a close second). High dose MDMA, amphetamine, and alcohol are great for making you think that you're witty.

ebola
 
one thing i know is that caffeine, makes me more talkative, but really drains me, makes me more anxious, fidgety, nervous, maybe even a bit paranoid, gives me horrible red-eye, light-headed, and i'm talking 1 shot of espresso...

so i'm not so sure i want to go the route of amphetamines....i've never experimented with coke because i have high blood pressure and im not a huge fan of turning into a chatterbox, i did 2 lines once and didn't notice anything except a cold drip down my throat...

with that said, i remember as a kid, i was prescribed wellbutrin (the smiley blue pills), and i would never take it except at summer camp (when they made me), looking back that is the last time i can really remember myself acting how i wanted, feeling uninhibited to a large extent, so i'm considering going to a psych for that


i'll be taking phenibut and 5-htp in a week....


tramadol seems like an interesting option, but i don't even know where i would begin to get some, xanax is easy, but the opiate pharms are hard to find for me out here (california)






...what's the least sedative benzo, and would you agree with other posters who say that low doses of xanax makes them feel more charming, or "on their A-game"

If caffeine makes you jumpy and you don't like getting too chatty, amps are not the way to go for sure. You having a high BP can even make it dangerous. Most of my friends start talking bullshit when taking amps. They bring up completely random topics at completely random times.

When a group of us used to tweak alot together I'd get SO annoyed by their nonsense sometimes, lol. Even when I was tweaking too. I hate listening to uninteresting tweaker-stories while having to pretend I care. :D What I find odd is that they never seemed to notice they were making no sense. I only talk that much bs when I drink (a lot) and have taken amps or coke. And even then..

About your question on xanax & the least sedating benzo; Xanax might make you feel more charming, but it's been my experience that others often don't see it that way. Take too much and you'll do & say stupid shit. For an anxiolytic benzo it's pretty sedating (imo). But a low dose could work. Should you try xanax, 0.25-0.5 is a good dose to start.

When thinking about less-sedating benzos the first ones that come to mind are prazepam & clobazam. They aren't very sedating at all. And unlike xanax these have long half-lives, so no redosing required. Xanax on the other hand is very short-acting.

I really don't know about benzos being the best option. But I can't think of more options either. If you decide to take benzos, don't take them every day.

I hope you find something that works.
 
Are prazepam &cobazam even prescribed in the US? I only ask, because I've never heard of them. Either way, they have sweet names, haha.

All right, OP... On the first page, I mentioned to use a low dose of Xanax by itself. Around 1-1.5mg. After a bit of personal experience, I've come back with a new idea. Whether or not it will work for you, I have no clue. But it gave me everything that you wanted. So, it's at least worth checking out, right? All right, let's just get into it. Oh, and with these medications, adjust the dosage accordingly. Your tolerance may be higher or lower then mine. Only you know that, but I'll post up the dosages I used. & here we go...:

• Adderall IR - 30MG.
• Xanax footballs. - 1.5MG.
• One tums.

All right, so what I did, was I ate the tums first, and waited about 20 minutes before I even thought about taking the Adderall. But instead of taking it all at once, I broke it in half, and took a half every 20 minutes. So, I ate half, waited 20 minutes, then ate the other half. Once I felt the come-up slowly creeping in, I took 1MG Xanax. Then a couple of minutes later, took the other .5MG.
[you don't have to split your doses, this is just how I do most of my drugs, usually]

I never had it kick in, where it slammed me back, it was real smooth. But once I was coasting... I was upbeat, sociable, very confident, and just ready to take on the world. I kind of felt like I could have walked up to anybody, got them laughing and giggling and pulled my dick out, and not even broke a sweat over it.

So, I mean... It worked for me. If you have access to these chemicals, I'd try it out. Hell, if you have the time & enough of said chemicals, play around with them, make a test run. But remember to always be careful. Don't take too much of one, and not enough of the other. You might end up with wasted money & missing chemicals. Never good. But good luck, man. I hope you figure everything out and you get to keep your job. & who knows, you step it up, you might get to bang one of those hot females. ;)

But as I said up there ^. Adjust the dosages to your tolerance. You don't have to do what I did.
 
^It's a mix that works for a while. But tolerance kicks in pretty fast. And the xanax is physically addictive.
Xanax is a very addictive benzo ime.

/e: prazepam & clobazam are available in Belgium, no idea whether or not it's prescribed in the us.
IME they are very good choises for tapering if you want to get rid of a physical addiction btw.
 
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I will advocate for the xannax (any gabaergic drug for what that matter, but alcohol induces such a dirty high that I would leave it out)
 
alright, i'm going to get my hands on some tramadol ....if i can find a way....

and some xanax

and report back...

i'm not a huge fan of recreational psychedelic usage...but to the people who were suggesting it...can you still operate normally on the doses you take? i.e. drive a car, hold a conversation, sit at dinner with your parents?
 
Ha glad someone finally said GHB! At low enough doses its like my Don Juan juice except its not for picking up people it works as a general people seducer in me and its probably the only one that doesn't just feel that way(it makes me soo smooth, but like stated its very dose dependent, to much and i'll feel like Don Juan but speak like a bumbling meth user, to little and I won't feel much like Don Juan and i'll be to interested in getting more fucked up, also on GHB I could talk to the most annoying asshole or the most boring elderly person on the planet yet still be totally enthralled, this adds so much to it!). Its one of the few chemicals which simply doesn't seem to just create the illusion of confidence, it seems to actually instill it, though once again to much and you'll have done no good! Also GHB seems to generally be enjoyed by everyone(well maybe not if your one of the unlucky few who GHB makes spew up everything...)but certain people really take to it, much more than others. For me benzos instill that feeling, to a low level degree but the loss of inhibition is far to great a call for a man like me, GHB however creates a calm contented person who would rather listen to you blather on about what you love, than say steal some alcohol for no other reason than the fact i'm wearing pants and facking can! I think its definitely all about the person though, because every drug has the potential, its just blunted by one of my flaws. Amphs sure give me confidence, but once I have that confidence, all I can think about is my greatness/over confidence, turns me into a monster! Opi's calm me down and make me contented in a certain sense, which is content to do pretty much nadda other than nod in and out of reality. We already talked about benzos, but ol'GHB? Its to easy, the dose dependence isn't even a big factor. As long as I stick inbetween 2-4g's, i'll nearly always hit my sweet zone and the worst that will happen is I go to far, but who cares? In that range its never too far and if I did travel a bit to far, in 10-30 minutes max i'm already at a far more acceptable level! The worst thing is about GHB is probably that its so great, making it difficult to not just eat 2-4g's a couple times in a row, especially if nothing important is going on, I guess you either get the hang of that though or lose the game....!

Oh and before any really terrible monsters are created, heed the warning that GBL and GHB are not interchangeable! You'll read noobs(IMO)who will write time and time again that they are, but I wish I could have known this lesson from the get go, GBL is like crack, while GHB is like cocaine. Barely anyone on this planet exists with grand amounts of pure cocaine and lasts....so pretty much no one on this planet exists with huge amounts of highly pure crack and lasts(fuck you! you call flopping around on the floor for atleast a couple hours a day lasting? :p). At the end, essentially GBL and GHB are the same in the fact that GBL converts to GHB anyways, and even IMO with the fact GBL's high does feel exactly like GHB(I guess you could argue but I feel if you've done it enough you get the picture)simply GBL is like crack in the fast high paced super euphoric high it gives where as GHB is more like cocaine in its more lasting highly euphoric high, so if you like GHB, you'll love GBL. Like crack though its a high you've got to chase, for the first week of constant use the high will be amazing but than eventually it gives way to tolerance and the smart stop while their ahead here. GHB with its more sedated lasting high is much easier to put down or to simply pick up once or twice when you need some relaxation, its euphoria is like a wave that slowly crashes and breaks over you, whereas GBL is like a drag racer, high powered and high throttled euphoria that drains and as quickly as it fills. Even then its to much for some people since IMO the relaxation GHB provides is unlike the relaxation from any other chemical, GABA a agnoists have a similar style/feel of calming but the serenity that GHB provides is unreal and different in many senses so for those who are high strung, it may be hard to avoid the peaceful serenity GHB is able to provide. Oh and you can't hate the fact that GHB is able to clean knock you out at certain doses. Oh and I should also mention there are probably other reasons I like GHB so much besides its unequaled feeling of "pharma peace", one being that I never really noticed the dopa rebound, sure with GBL I did but with GHB I never really did(I think a few times when I dosed all day and kept the GHB "feeling" going 24/7 during that time I might notice some stim feeling on the come down, but not like others have described, it was really only outright noticeable with high GHB use)it would even show in my sleep, considering when I went to sleep after a night of GHB use even leading up to sleep using maybe a half an hour before bed I wouldn't really ever just wake up a few hours later feeling stimmed, granted I would usually get lousy sleep and less of it but never the 2 hours of super strong sleep and than a wake up around hour 3(this would only happen if I dosed 5ish grams during the middle of the day and it clean knocked me out, when this happens I never sleep for to long and always have a jarring quick wake up feeling very alert). GHB feels really fairly manageable in that sense. When I think about it, GHB is really pretty perfect for this sort of thing in so many ways. The fact I can just dissolve a large number of grams into a small amount of water is super helpful for taking places. Its timeframe is really perfect too, taken straight in a drink GHB really takes more than 10ish minutes to really feel it kick in and within 30 its almost fully in gear for me, than the fact that if you dose to high you won't be falling over breaking things for to long, in fact with reasonable doses you should regain composure in about an hour max(you might not be fully aware yet, but aware enough to put the snake back in its hole if you let it out during the party or somethin'!). Plus for me the up and down are both smooth sailing, I would have to say actually sometimes that feeling of slight stimulation after GHB isn't a bad thing, kinda wires me like a incredibly light grade stimulant thats missing some portions, but fuck I can work with nearly anything and reading back you'll note that the stimulation being light and empty might be a good thing for me! All in all, GHB is really nearly to perfect to me for a relaxation or a jazz up to my already sexy nature! ;)
 
Getting fuck up might make you feel more confident, but to straight people it just looks sloppy/trashy.I don't agree that opiates/psychedelics would be good for humor/charisma.Although opiates make it easier to talk, it gives a lot of people a short fuse. LSD fucks you up too much, a lot of what's said is gibberish to the sober, though maybe a low dose might work. Low dose amphetamines, dextroamphetamine in particular, low to moderate dose of MDMA, low dose of alprazolam/diazepam, or 1-2 beers are great way to loosen up a bit. They don't work good in high doses.Fucks you up too much.

For me the best drug for humor/charisma is weed
 
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