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Hi guys, I was just wondering what your best dissociative and empathogen mixes have been so far. I found 6-APB and CanKet (out 2F-DCK) to fit really well together. Last night I used about 25mg of 3-HO-PCE alongside a 1:1 mix of 220mg of MDMA:MDA. First heavy roll in a while and it was amazing how cozy the 3-HO-PCE made things. I've mixed 3-HO-PCP with both MDMA and MDA, and 3-MeO-PCP with MDA before as well. Ketamine and CanKet with both MDMA and MDA also. I tend to prefer MDA and CanKet it seems, and 6-APB is more on the stimulant than empathogen side of things for my subjective tastes so I prefer MDA over all of them.

How have your guys' tastes evolved? What have you found to be you perfect balanced combos of dissos and empathogens for your subjective neurochemistry? I imagine there are people out there swearing by DCK and Methylone, or MDEA alongside MXiPR or something, and I'm curious to hear if anybody has put time and thought into disso/empathogen synergies specifically.

Would've been tripping for it too but used 15mg of DOM, 15mg of 3-HO-PCP and ~160mg of ketamine like 4 days earlier.
 
A striking thing was that under influence of MDMA i could get in the hole on ammounts that without.
Would be a functional kinda like Alcohol high of 2/ 3 beers, way better feeling but in terms of intensity.

So MDMA magnified/ catalysed and/ or synergized with K making it at least twice as potent.
Might be my personal chemistry, wonder what others experiences are.
And between 2F-DCK and DCK the last was most like K ime. 2F stimulating, K sedating DCK in the middle.
All unique btw. dMXE also had somerhing that arm i d prefer over MXE, as it a bit more relaxed and less in your face.
But the resemblance was there. Never combined them wiith a Emphatogen though.
 
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MXE plus MDMA hands down. Best drug combo I’ve ever done as far as party/ psychedelic drugs go

I never thought that K and mdma had much synergy or went together well…but I hadn’t tried that combo until I had done lots of mxe + mdma trials

The best result was taking MDMA after the peak of the mxe had passed. Not same time dosing.

And I tried mxe with plenty of other MDXX. But with regular mdma it was the best.
 
MXE plus MDMA hands down. Best drug combo I’ve ever done as far as party/ psychedelic drugs go

I never thought that K and mdma had much synergy or went together well…but I hadn’t tried that combo until I had done lots of mxe + mdma trials

The best result was taking MDMA after the peak of the mxe had passed. Not same time dosing.

And I tried mxe with plenty of other MDXX. But with regular mdma it was the best.
So like taking the K on the tail end off MDMA, bit during to.
K is sedating so starting on MXE, which ime is also a stimulant.
Never had em peak together always ending with, so fatique also played a role probably.

Coming down on MXE and doing some MDMA sounds good, never did it. MXE was after quitting MDMA.

Ketamine best comedown aid ever period, smooth transition and afterwards restful sleep.
Feeling ok day after. Quite a bizar effect.
GHB would not do that just make it eassier. But with its own price at the end. A bandage not a cure.
 
Coming down on MXE and doing some MDMA sounds good, never did it.
it’s pretty amazing it will bring your MXE high back to like +++ or ++++ after you thought you were in the mxe afterglow

Also it makes the the mdma lose that rolling stoning feeling and more of a constant 5 hour rush like meth or something
 
I don't have much experience with these 2 classes, though I've done MDMA and Ketamine (usually later in the MDMA roll). I liked it. I never pushed the dosages very high though because I was almost always in public with this combo.
 
MDA and Ketamine was amazing. Very visual and strange. I half saw an alien ship coming overhead scanning my life and a deep throbbing of the engines. Took a day or so afterwards to integrate back to reality.
 
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I've yet to taste any diarylethylamines, how would you compare them to arylcyclohexylamines from your subjective lens?
Of the 'phenidines I only have experience of ephenidine, but I find it to be the most immersive and fantastical(?) material I have ever experienced, although admittedly I've never tried it on its own. The closest of the arylcyclohexylamines in my experience would be MXiPr or MXE, with respect to the complete engulfment in the experience. But ephenidine feels smoother while also more... powerful somehow...? There's a sense of awe about it.
 
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