Does anyone think one day an RC will come out that is generally considered better than the classics? Something that blows MDMA out the water and may even possibly be 'better' for you? Whenever I see people talking about RCs it's always compared to MDMA, yet never seems to live up to it.
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People should judge materials on their own without comparing to others as they will never be the same, so if you want MDMA get MDMA.. (legal/availability issues aside)
I really love some RC's and in some, even most.. settings do prefer them over the classics, otherwise I wouldn't be doing them...
But there are some I wouldn't touch with a ten foot bargepole, like synth noids, PV's or materials that have questionable sar like Brephedrone/Clephedrone..
As said some prefer 1P-LSD over 'the classic' but comparing to classics is only comparing to what you know first.. if AL-LAD were discovered earlier we might compare LSD to that one..
I enjoy 2-FA as a fun functional stim while I have a script for the 'classic' dextroamphetamine..
And nowadays wouldn't touch much of the coke and would rather have pentedrone although it is comparing apples and oranges, but I do prefer it's effects over much of the charly out there.. But even when I could get high quality flakes for that kind of money I'd get 10 grams of Pente so I don't anymore. So another classic busted for me.
I like 4 subs and even 5 subs over Mushrooms and love 2C-B (the original rc for me) at least it's what started my interest in all, after reading pihkal and tihkal and there are some real gems in there. Not much use comparing all phens to 2C-B either...
As entactogens I like 4-FA as it is less mongey and it doesn't get you too fucked up, so this and I even use Methylone more frequent than MDMA as it doesn't give me any comedown, but due to it's short duration for long parties might go for MDMA. For dancing type energy I also like 3-MMC but again duration is short and redosing only works once so that is a downside but I prefer it over mongey MDMA in that aspect.
Not sure about tha APB series regarding entactogens.. Have tried 6-APB was quite mellow but with heavy jaw clenching, but without the expected psychedelic MDA type effects I had hoped for (Unlike MDMA its cousins MDA and MDEA are quite rare nowadays here in Holland, they make good pills but not like they used to in the '90's) and with the same type of 'hangover' MDMA can have for me. And didn't like some of the side effects that got mentioned by some like SSRI discontinuation syndrome style 'brain zaps' which I didn't like getting of my SSRI to begin with.. So not really looking into those anymore.
But yes a good MDMA replacement will be tough to get right depending on what you are looking to improve, especially with a good duration of 6 hours+ (Amphetamines and other straight stims aside)
I really love some RC's and in some, even most.. settings do prefer them over the classics, otherwise I wouldn't be doing them...
But there are some I wouldn't touch with a ten foot bargepole, like synth noids, PV's or materials that have questionable sar like Brephedrone/Clephedrone..
As said some prefer 1P-LSD over 'the classic' but comparing to classics is only comparing to what you know first.. if AL-LAD were discovered earlier we might compare LSD to that one..
I enjoy 2-FA as a fun functional stim while I have a script for the 'classic' dextroamphetamine..
And nowadays wouldn't touch much of the coke and would rather have pentedrone although it is comparing apples and oranges, but I do prefer it's effects over much of the charly out there.. But even when I could get high quality flakes for that kind of money I'd get 10 grams of Pente so I don't anymore. So another classic busted for me.
I like 4 subs and even 5 subs over Mushrooms and love 2C-B (the original rc for me) at least it's what started my interest in all, after reading pihkal and tihkal and there are some real gems in there. Not much use comparing all phens to 2C-B either...
As entactogens I like 4-FA as it is less mongey and it doesn't get you too fucked up, so this and I even use Methylone more frequent than MDMA as it doesn't give me any comedown, but due to it's short duration for long parties might go for MDMA. For dancing type energy I also like 3-MMC but again duration is short and redosing only works once so that is a downside but I prefer it over mongey MDMA in that aspect.
Not sure about tha APB series regarding entactogens.. Have tried 6-APB was quite mellow but with heavy jaw clenching, but without the expected psychedelic MDA type effects I had hoped for (Unlike MDMA its cousins MDA and MDEA are quite rare nowadays here in Holland, they make good pills but not like they used to in the '90's) and with the same type of 'hangover' MDMA can have for me. And didn't like some of the side effects that got mentioned by some like SSRI discontinuation syndrome style 'brain zaps' which I didn't like getting of my SSRI to begin with.. So not really looking into those anymore.
But yes a good MDMA replacement will be tough to get right depending on what you are looking to improve, especially with a good duration of 6 hours+ (Amphetamines and other straight stims aside)
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