You are only masked by the benzos thinking things are going well and such. Sure when you are on them everything just flows nicely and your day is great. But when it is time to get off them or even taper down a little, it's gonna be hell. To answer your question yes, the doses and amount you are taking is definite over kill. These benzos aren't doing you any good if you really think about it, as i said it is only masking the anxiety and making it a ton worse when it is time to stop the benzo use.
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Benzo Use: Am I Going Overboard?
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OP no offense but I think you are friggin crazy. I had daily stress, but never felt anxiety (subtle difference). Anyway I started taking 1.5 mg of klonopin for a year then got up to 3 mg of klonopin for a year. When I finally detoxed it took four months for that shit to get out of my system and begin to function normally. I'm talking hallucinations, depersonalization, rebound anxiety, panic attacks just doing VERY simple things like answering a telephone, no sleep, etc. Detoxing off all those benzodiazepines is hell on an unbelievable level.
bornofemmure
Bluelighter
whatever you do, don't keep upping your dose... unfortunately your tolerance isn't gonna go down much because you're prescribed benzos, but try to taper down to the point where you're only taking what you're prescribed.
StaySedated
Bluelighter
i know my benzo intake is large, but i have had worse addictions that benzos actually helped me with.
in high school i was perscribed phentobarbital and later secobarbital to treat severe insomnia, which was likely a result of my cocaine use. i was also a heavy user of methaqualone and a heavy drinker. in 11th grade i started to experiment with smoking heroin.
after high school, i was completely addicted to barbiturates. i had a doc that perscribed me secobarbital and a doc that perscribed me phentobarbital. plus i was severely addicted to cocaine, physicaly addicted on black tar heroin, and a full blown alcoholic.
this went on for a few years until i got treatment for cocaine, heroin, and alcohol dependence. even though i stopped drinking, i still took barbs to treat insomnia. however i soon found out about benzos, and even though the barbs were working well i knew they were dangerous and made the choice to switch to valium and librium.
benzos and barbs are cross tolerant but the "switch" was not smooth. however after a few months i was on benzos instead of the more dangerous barbs. from there i switched to stronger benzos that worked a bit better, a combo of triazolam and flurazepam was perscrbed and they were effective (almost)like the barbs were. anyway i've gone through many benzo and benzo combos- alprazolam, lorazepam, (back to)diazepam, a combo of clonazepam and ambien(not a benzo), a combo of diazepam and lorazepam, a combo of clonazepam and trazodone(not a benzo), and other benzos and combos.
and now i'm perscribed temazepam and clonazepam, and buy xanax bars, diazepam, and extra temazepam from my dealer.
anyway: benzos got me off a long dependence of two powerful barbiturates and alcohol. yes i'm now addicted to benzos, but i could be in a much worse place without them. i know i will have to get off them at some point, and when that time comes i'll slowly taper(i know how) and remember that if i was on barbs that i'd truly be fucked.
in high school i was perscribed phentobarbital and later secobarbital to treat severe insomnia, which was likely a result of my cocaine use. i was also a heavy user of methaqualone and a heavy drinker. in 11th grade i started to experiment with smoking heroin.
after high school, i was completely addicted to barbiturates. i had a doc that perscribed me secobarbital and a doc that perscribed me phentobarbital. plus i was severely addicted to cocaine, physicaly addicted on black tar heroin, and a full blown alcoholic.
this went on for a few years until i got treatment for cocaine, heroin, and alcohol dependence. even though i stopped drinking, i still took barbs to treat insomnia. however i soon found out about benzos, and even though the barbs were working well i knew they were dangerous and made the choice to switch to valium and librium.
benzos and barbs are cross tolerant but the "switch" was not smooth. however after a few months i was on benzos instead of the more dangerous barbs. from there i switched to stronger benzos that worked a bit better, a combo of triazolam and flurazepam was perscrbed and they were effective (almost)like the barbs were. anyway i've gone through many benzo and benzo combos- alprazolam, lorazepam, (back to)diazepam, a combo of clonazepam and ambien(not a benzo), a combo of diazepam and lorazepam, a combo of clonazepam and trazodone(not a benzo), and other benzos and combos.
and now i'm perscribed temazepam and clonazepam, and buy xanax bars, diazepam, and extra temazepam from my dealer.
anyway: benzos got me off a long dependence of two powerful barbiturates and alcohol. yes i'm now addicted to benzos, but i could be in a much worse place without them. i know i will have to get off them at some point, and when that time comes i'll slowly taper(i know how) and remember that if i was on barbs that i'd truly be fucked.
BananasAndOranges
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dude who cares. I've had a rough ass path as well as everyone here so quit acting like you need all those pills. its retarded is what it is dude. I cant wait till you see what were all telling you,....and you cant even manage your day on 10mgs of xanax....
StaySedated
Bluelighter
i don't need the pills, things just go better for me with them.
i'm not dick measuring when it comes to my past like you're suggesting, i'm sure you and everybody else has had addiction struggles. but i can say i have had a rough past considering that i was the only student in my high school addicted to barbiturates, heroin, cocaine, and booze.
and stop talking like i don't know what can come of this because i've gone through withdrawls and i know addiction, so spare the scare tactics and stop talking down as if you know more about addiction.
lastly i won't manage on 10mg. xanax, but rather an equalvant dose of benzos i like better...
I don't think you are grasping what the majority of people are trying to explain to you - that you are taking waaaaay too many benzodiazepines. I think that you are ignorant when you say that all those benzodiazepines are not as bad as coke and heroin. I know that benzodiazepine withdrawal is worse than coke and heroin combined for most people. Now, considering the massive doses you are taking I doubt you have a clue about how hard it will be to detox. It will probably take a good 12 - 18 months for you to detox and start to feel anything resembling 'good'. Do you feel me? Can you grasp how long and painful the wd process will most likely be? Much worse than coke and heroin. You have no idea.
StaySedated
Bluelighter
i know benzo withdrawl is worse than coke and heroin, i was talking about barbiturate withdrawl. WD'ing from barbs is similar to benzos, but actually a bit worse with death being more common even with tapering. you have no idea of how dangerous barbiturate addiction is, as the dose barbs you need to supress withdrawl builds quicker than the dose that can kill you. theres a reason why benzos replaced barbiturates.
as for you saying i know nothing of detox and dangers of addiction, i've forgot more about the subject then you'll ever know.
next time you make an aggressive post, know what the other person was talking about. or better yet, don't post at all.
K'd-OUT-in-AZ
Bluelighter
Going onto benzodiazepines to get off barbiturates is just switching one similar addiction to another. You were addicted to barbs, now your addicted to benzos. Both cause nearly the same fatal withdrawals, barbiturates are just a little more severe. Regardless, they still cause withdrawals that can be fatal so I don't see it as progress going onto benzodiazepines from barbiturates. But I don't want to judge, hell I was using just as much stuff as you. I remember you saying that you are in the music industry and your great at what you do. The thing is, you could be doing even better without so much of the benzodiazepines. You don't realize this until you taper or get off them. The sedation is blocking your true ability. So maybe you could at least forget the diazepam and maybe choose either the clonazepam or alprazolam. I see no reason to be on more than two benzodiazepines, one for anxiety and one for insomnia. No need for more.
Isn't it harder to withdraw from benzos?
I thought benzo tolerance/dependence was uniquely long-lasting among GABAergics, and while tolerance is slow to go away with any GABAergic, with barbs/ethanol/carbamates, it wasn't as slow as with benzos. Though, this is only the vague impression i've gotten...
I thought benzo tolerance/dependence was uniquely long-lasting among GABAergics, and while tolerance is slow to go away with any GABAergic, with barbs/ethanol/carbamates, it wasn't as slow as with benzos. Though, this is only the vague impression i've gotten...
cogito ergo sum
Greenlighter
Honestly man, the best idea for you would to be to start slowly decreasing your dosages. Just decrease one at a time until you're not taking it anymore. Incremental decreases. You're definitely abusing, but that's understandable, benzos sustain their tolerance in the body longer than other drugs. I take around 20 mgs of valium to feel recreational effects. I know how it goes. I would definitely try to get yourself off a few of them at least, it most certainly isn't healthy.
cogito ergo sum
Greenlighter
Benzo addiction is one of the only addictions you can die from. So no, I would have to disagree with your statement that it's harder to withdraw from benzos. They are much like opiates, taking them everyday and then stopping would put a person through serious physical withdrawl, as well as immense depression.
cogito ergo sum
Greenlighter
Lets be nice now
I can't believe you'd laugh at someone who is trying to seek help with addiction. If that's why you're on this forum, than your input is most certainly not necessary.
I can't believe you'd laugh at someone who is trying to seek help with addiction. If that's why you're on this forum, than your input is most certainly not necessary.
homeydontplaythat
Bluelighter
i dare say you are dependent, not an abuser. i would need to do a psycho social on you but seeing as i am a lisenced substance abuse counselor i would only need 3 criteria occuring within 12 months to diagnose you as dependent aka ADDICTED.